Now, Eco, you musn't blame yourself you know that. Linux and forums like this are about people helping each other. We are running unstable, we musn't forget that. (though see my new post here). I am turning into an update/upgrade phobic

And so much of my updating and/or upgrading is done just dling packages at work and burning them to a cd to bring home because I am poor and on stinking miserable dialup. I throw the debs into my archive folder and run apt-get update and hope that something I want to install, I already have the packages there I went to install those KDE games last night, didn't have the what, 100 pkgs? it wanted and I saw a 3 hrs of downloading and went nooooooooooooo.