Apt-get dist-upgrade paranoid!!!

[warpedmind]

Ok I need some help here

While doing an apt-get upgrade I got this message

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root@Sphinux:/home/luis# apt-get upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following packages have been kept back
ark arts artsbuilder cervisia kaboodle kaddressbook kalarm kalarmd kamera
kandy kappfinder karm kate kate-plugins katomic kaudiocreator kbabel
kbackgammon kcalc kcharselect kcoloredit kcontrol kdeaddons-kfile-plugins
kdeartwork-style kdeartwork-theme-window kdebase kdebase-bin
kdebase-kio-plugins kdegraphics kdegraphics-kfile-plugins kdelibs-bin
kdelibs-data kdelibs4 kdemultimedia kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins
kdenetwork-kfile-plugins kdepasswd kdepim kdepim-libs kdeprint kdesktop
kdessh kdeutils kdf kdict kdm kdvi kedit kfax kfind kfloppy kget kghostview
kgpgcertmanager khelpcenter khexedit kicker kicker-applets kiconedit kjots
klaptopdaemon klipper kmahjongg kmenuedit kmid kmidi kmines kmix kmrml
knewsticker knotes kompare konq-plugins konqueror konqueror-nsplugins
konsole kooka korganizer korn kpager kpaint kpersonalizer kpf kpilot
kpovmodeler kppp krdc krec krecord krfb kruler kscd kscreensaver ksim
ksmserver ksnapshot ksplash kstars ksync ksysguard ksysguardd ktalkd ktimer
ktip ktron kuickshow kview kviewshell kweather kwin kworldclock kxmlrpc
libarts1 libkcal2 libkdegames1 libkdenetwork2 libkgantt0 libkonq4
libkregexpeditor libkscan1 libqt3-helper libqt3-mt noatun noatun-plugins yaf
1 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 125 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/327kB of archives. After unpacking 332kB will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n
Abort.
root@Sphinux:/home/luis#

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What I want to know is, I am guessing that there are new packages available
that will upgrade my system to the newest debian/KDE woody available.

So if I use apt-get dist-upgrade will this erase the 125 packages,
and then reinstall all those packages automatically?

If not how do I get those packages back on my system to keep my system the way it is just upgraded?

Im just a little paranoid cause I dont want to screw up my system.

So if possible could someone just walk me through their experiences using
apt-get dist-upgrade?

Thank you in advance for your help.

Luis

[robelanator]

Your question seems fairly obvious, but since I've been known to ask a few slap-your-head-after-getting-the-answer questions I'll help you out:

1 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 125 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/327kB of archives. After unpacking 332kB will be used.

This is the important part.

"1 packages upgraded" - this means there's a newer version on an install program or library on the server. If you choose to continue, apt-get will automatically download and install the new program or library over the old one.

"0 newly installed" - pretty obvious. There's nothing new that you don't already have.

"0 to remove" - no packages will be removed from your system at this time. This is what you were worried about?

"125 not upgraded" - these packages are current.

"Need to get 0B/327kB of archives. After unpacking 332kB will be used." - This is the total file size of the packages to be grabbed and then how much space they will take up after installation.

Oh, and if you've just installed from the CD you should first do an apt-get update to makes sure you list of package versions is current.

[god]

What about this one?

root@uberphreak:/home/uberphreak# apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Calculating Upgrade... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
amor ark cdbakeoven cervisia gnome-panel gnome-panel-data kaddressbook
kalarm kalarmd kamera kandy kappfinder karbon karm kasteroids kate
kate-plugins katomic kbabel kbackgammon kbattleship kbounce kcalc
kcharselect kchart kcoloredit kcontrol kcron kdat kdcop kdebase kdebase-bin
kdebugdialog kdecarddecks kdelibs-bin kdelibs4 kdelibs4-dev kdepasswd kdepim
kdeprint kdesktop kdessh kdeutils kdevelop kdevelop-data kdf kdict kdm kedit
kenolaba kfax kfile-audio-plugins kfile-graphics-plugins kfind kfloppy
kformula kgeo kghostview khelpcenter khexedit khotkeys kicker kiconedit
kioslave kivio kjots kjumpingcube klaptopdaemon klines klipper kljettool
klpq klprfax kmahjongg kmail kmenuedit kmidi kmines kmix kmoon knewsticker
knode knotes kodo koffice koffice-libs kompare konq-plugins konq-speaker
konqueror konqueror-nsplugins konquest konsole kontour kooka korganizer
koshell kpackage kpager kpaint kpat kpersonalizer kpf kpilot kpoker kppp
kpresenter krecord kreversi kruler ksame kscd kscreensaver kshisen ksirc
ksirtet ksmiletris ksmserver ksnake ksnapshot ksokoban ksplash kspread
kstars ksysguard ksysv ktalkd kteatime ktimer ktip ktron ktuberling ktux
kugar kview kviewshell kweather kwin kwin4 kword kworldclock kxkb kxmlrpc
libkcal2 libkdegames1 libkdenetwork2 libkgantt0 libkonq4 libkonq4-dev
libkregexpeditor libkscan1 libqt3-mt-dev lisa lskat php4 php4-mysql
xlibmesa3 ytalk
The following NEW packages will be installed:
alsa-headers g++-3.2 kdegames-card-data ksysguardd libart-2.0-dev
libasound2-dev libaudio-dev libautotrace3 libcupsys2-dev libgal2.0-0
libgnomeprintui2.2-common libgsf-1 libmad0-dev libmetacity0 libogg-dev
libqt3-headers libssl0.9.7 libstartup-notification0 libstdc++5
libstdc++5-dev libvorbis-dev libxine1 poster xlibmesa-gl-dev
xlibmesa-glu-dev xlibmesa3-gl
The following packages have been kept back
arts autotrace gconf-editor gconf2 gnome-control-center gnome-session
gnomemeeting gnumeric gtetrinet icewm-gnome imagemagick libarts1
libarts1-dev libbonoboui2-0 libbonoboui2-common libgconf2-4 libgnome2-0
libgnomecanvas2-0 libgnomeui-0 libgnomevfs2-0 libgnomevfs2-common
libgtk2.0-0 libpanel-applet2-0 libpango1.0-0 libqt3-dev libwmf-bin
libwmf0.2-7 libwnck4 pilot-link python-glade2 python-gtk2 python2.2-glade2
python2.2-gtk2 qcad scribus xserver-common xserver-xfree86
12 packages upgraded, 26 newly installed, 158 to remove and 37 not upgraded.
Need to get 37.7MB of archives. After unpacking 140MB will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]

[god]

by the way... I know that it is going to remove things.. but why?

[robelanator]

by the way... I know that it is going to remove things.. but why?

Did you change your "default release" in /etc/apt/apt.conf to "stable" by chance?

It's probably trying to remove the packages that were in testing/unstable to bring you back to a default Debian Woody installation.

I know I had to go through all sorts of removal of newer programs to install older versions when I wanted to move to KDE3.1/Woody from Knoppix.

You'll probably end up breaking something doing this, though... it took about an hour of playing around to bring my system back. See: http://www.knoppix.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=804

[god]

thanks for the post and the link... I think I may just wait a few more days(weeks) until I am more comfortable, and things have been worked out better.....

[warpedmind]

**** UPDATE *****

I decided to just go ahead and agree to the apt-get dist-update.

it removed all the files listed and installed three others. then I kept doing
apt-get dist update till it told me that there were no new programs to update.

then a did apt-get -f install to put in any files needed.

then apt-get install kdebase kdm ... (all the other files needed)

I am back up and running. all of my settings are still here in one piece.

loving linux more and more.

Luis

[aay]

**** UPDATE *****

I decided to just go ahead and agree to the apt-get dist-update.

it removed all the files listed and installed three others. then I kept doing
apt-get dist update till it told me that there were no new programs to update.

then a did apt-get -f install to put in any files needed.

then apt-get install kdebase kdm ... (all the other files needed)

I am back up and running. all of my settings are still here in one piece.

loving linux more and more.

Luis

Hmm, that seemed easy enough. Maybe I'll give this a try. Did you alter sources.list for this?

[warpedmind]

I use these sources for KDE3.1

deb http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde stable main
deb-src http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde stable main

hope that helps

[aay]

After a lot of playing around, I was able to update to 3.1. Thanks all.