my copy came thrugh the post today, and having time on my hands, i tried it. I must admit i was a heavy knoppix geek till >3.4 when I changed tracks to DSL, but recently ive been wandering, work makes me use Centos and ive tried playing with *buntu and ended up using a turnkey vm lamp appliance on a centos server for mail and local storage which I had updated and run vnc on leaving me completely ..... well, up in the air. the wife just wants access to ebay & utube so leaving the knoppix6.3 disk in the 'puter, she is happy and I can go walk the dogs.