RADEON 7500 works but only in live mode(very strange)

**sonic1001** · 08-07-2003, 04:56 AM

alright heres my situation. ive been using knoppix hd install for some time and love it. however like ALL distros, my radeon 7500 would not get detected and i would get horrible 3d performance. today i acciedentally had my knoppix cd in the tray and it booted. while it was booting i paid careful attention to the text and noticed something similar to this:

AGP Bridge Detected
video = Radeon QW(75000) using x(radeon) server.

so i let it boot into kde and tried a 3d game(chromium) and was surpassed to see that i was getting 3d accelerted graphics.

Why did it detect my gpu while im using live mode and not after after i do an hdinstall???

plez help

**rickenbacherus** · 08-07-2003, 05:05 AM

sudo xedit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4

Look for the section that looks something like this:

Code:

# The following line is auto-generated by KNOPPIX mkxf86config
        Driver      "vesa"
        VendorName  "All"
        BoardName   "All"
#       BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"

Make sure the driver is either ati or radeon like so:

Driver "ati"

or

Driver "radeon"

My 7200 uses the ati.

After that, do this:

glxinfo

It should have a line that looks like this:

Code:

direct rendering: Yes

That should do it.

**sonic1001** · 08-07-2003, 05:10 AM

hmmm its says it doesent

heres my glxinfo

Code:

name of display: :0.0
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: No
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
server glx extensions:
    GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context
client glx vendor string: SGI
client glx version string: 1.2
client glx extensions:
    GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context
GLX extensions:
    GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
OpenGL version string: 1.3 Mesa 4.0.4
OpenGL extensions:
    GL_ARB_imaging, GL_ARB_multitexture, GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp,
    GL_ARB_texture_cube_map, GL_ARB_texture_env_add,
    GL_ARB_texture_env_combine, GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3,
    GL_ARB_transpose_matrix, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_blend_color,
    GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_blend_subtract, GL_EXT_texture_env_add,
    GL_EXT_texture_env_combine, GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3,
    GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias
glu version: 1.3
glu extensions:
    GLU_EXT_nurbs_tessellator, GLU_EXT_object_space_tess

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**rickenbacherus** · 08-07-2003, 05:23 AM

So are you using the ati or radeon driver in XF86Config-4?

If so - did you restart the xserver before running glxinfo?

**sonic1001** · 08-07-2003, 05:29 AM

i tried radeon, ati, and vesa. all didnt work(i restarted and checked)

im not sure if this helps but im using live mode and heres my new

glxinfo

Code:

name of display: :0.0
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
server glx extensions:
    GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context
client glx vendor string: SGI
client glx version string: 1.2
client glx extensions:
    GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context
GLX extensions:
    GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context
OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Radeon 20020611 AGP 1x x86/MMX/3DNow! TCL
OpenGL version string: 1.2 Mesa 4.0.4
OpenGL extensions:
    GL_ARB_imaging, GL_ARB_multisample, GL_ARB_multitexture,
    GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp, GL_ARB_texture_compression,
    GL_ARB_texture_env_add, GL_ARB_texture_env_combine,
    GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3, GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat,
    GL_ARB_transpose_matrix, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_bgra, GL_EXT_blend_color,
    GL_EXT_blend_logic_op, GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_blend_subtract,
    GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint, GL_EXT_convolution, GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array,
    GL_EXT_histogram, GL_EXT_packed_pixels, GL_EXT_polygon_offset,
    GL_EXT_rescale_normal, GL_EXT_secondary_color, GL_EXT_texture3D,
    GL_EXT_texture_env_add, GL_EXT_texture_env_combine,
    GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3, GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic,
    GL_EXT_texture_object, GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias, GL_EXT_vertex_array,
    GL_IBM_rasterpos_clip, GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat, GL_MESA_window_pos,
    GL_NV_blend_square, GL_NV_texgen_reflection, GL_SGI_color_matrix,
    GL_SGI_color_table, GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap, GL_SGIS_texture_border_clamp
glu version: 1.3
glu extensions:
    GLU_EXT_nurbs_tessellator, GLU_EXT_object_space_tess

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**rickenbacherus** · 08-07-2003, 05:32 AM

glxinfo just tells you info about direct rendering and such. What you need to compare are your XF86Config-4 files. Have a look at the "booted from cd" XF86Config-4 and see what driver it's using.

**sonic1001** · 08-07-2003, 05:35 AM

both config files are the same. but i did notice something else. i did a search on dri and found that
/dev/dri/card0 is 0b when its around 800b its live mode
/proc/dri has a size of ob but in the live mode its 12.5mb

im not sure if that helps but might as well post it

**sonic1001** · 08-07-2003, 05:44 AM

lol um heres my lspci -v for the radeon. lol im just posting anything relavent

Code:

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV200 QW [Radeon 7500] (prog-if 00 [VGA])
        Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon 7500
        Flags: bus master, stepping, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 16
        Memory at d8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
        I/O ports at 9000 [size=256]
        Memory at e1000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
        Expansion ROM at <unassigned> [disabled] [size=128K]
        Capabilities: [58] AGP version 2.0
        Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2