HD Install - No /dev 's that I had with Live CD

[Cuddles]

Ok, when I was using the Live CD...

Knoppix KNEW I had the following:
/dev/hdc1
/dev/hda1
/dev/cdrom0
/dev/cdrom1
/dev/sda1

Now it knows they are their - they show up in Info Center - I can see them, but they can't be used...

/dev/hda1 has been partitioned into /dev/hda1 for Linux, and /dev/hda5 has become the Linux Swap.

/dev/cdrom exists - but it points to my DVD and won't run anything if I put a CD or DVD in it.
My other CDROM is a CD-RW - it knows its a CD-RW, but refuses to allow me to get it as a device - nothing is auto-configuring like it did in the Live CD.

How do I get my devices back? I did the DVD apt-get, and the stuff got added, but nothing seems to tell the install that I have devices I can use?

Help? What can I do? I have a system with a CD-RW, a DVD, a SanDisk ImageMate II Flash, and second hard drive, and NOTHING is able to be found, used, mounted, viewed, etc...

Something is rotten in the state of Knoppix HD Install, and it ain't pretty,
Thanks in advance,
Cuddles

[Stephen]

Ok, when I was using the Live CD...

Knoppix KNEW I had the following:
/dev/hdc1
/dev/hda1
/dev/cdrom0
/dev/cdrom1
/dev/sda1

Now it knows they are their - they show up in Info Center - I can see them, but they can't be used...

/dev/hda1 has been partitioned into /dev/hda1 for Linux, and /dev/hda5 has become the Linux Swap.

/dev/cdrom exists - but it points to my DVD and won't run anything if I put a CD or DVD in it.
My other CDROM is a CD-RW - it knows its a CD-RW, but refuses to allow me to get it as a device - nothing is auto-configuring like it did in the Live CD.

How do I get my devices back? I did the DVD apt-get, and the stuff got added, but nothing seems to tell the install that I have devices I can use?

Help? What can I do? I have a system with a CD-RW, a DVD, a SanDisk ImageMate II Flash, and second hard drive, and NOTHING is able to be found, used, mounted, viewed, etc...

Something is rotten in the state of Knoppix HD Install, and it ain't pretty,
Thanks in advance,
Cuddles

Can you post the output of dmesg | grep scsi, fdisk -l, ls -l /dev/cdrom and the contents of the file /etc/fstab?

[Cuddles]

I was wondering when all the cryptic stuff is going to need to be given... Here goes...

root@Linux:~# dmesg scsi
Linux version 2.4.20-xfs (root@Knoppix) (gcc version 2.95.4 20011002 (Debian prerelease)) #1 SMP Mit Mär 26 15:37:36 CET 2003
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 000000000009fc00 (usable)
BIOS-e820: 000000000009fc00 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved)
BIOS-e820: 00000000000e0000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved)
BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 0000000013fe0000 (usable)
BIOS-e820: 0000000013fe0000 - 0000000013ff8000 (ACPI data)
BIOS-e820: 0000000013ff8000 - 0000000014000000 (ACPI NVS)
BIOS-e820: 00000000fec00000 - 00000000fec01000 (reserved)
BIOS-e820: 00000000fee00000 - 00000000fee01000 (reserved)
BIOS-e820: 00000000fff80000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved)
319MB LOWMEM available.
On node 0 totalpages: 81888
zone(0): 4096 pages.
zone(1): 77792 pages.
zone(2): 0 pages.
Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=Linux ro root=301 hda=scsi hdb=scsi hdc=scsi hdd=scsi hde=scsi hdf=scsi hdg=scsi hdh=scsi apm=power-off nomce
ide_setup: hda=scsi
ide_setup: hdb=scsi
ide_setup: hdc=scsi
ide_setup: hdd=scsi
ide_setup: hde=scsi
ide_setup: hdf=scsi
ide_setup: hdg=scsi
ide_setup: hdh=scsi
Found and enabled local APIC!
Initializing CPU#0
Detected 431.388 MHz processor.
Console: colour dummy device 80x25
Calibrating delay loop... 858.52 BogoMIPS
Memory: 321132k/327552k available (1270k kernel code, 6032k reserved, 503k data, 128k init, 0k highmem)
Dentry cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 7, 524288 bytes)
Inode cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
Mount-cache hash table entries: 8192 (order: 4, 65536 bytes)
Buffer-cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 4, 65536 bytes)
Page-cache hash table entries: 131072 (order: 7, 524288 bytes)
CPU: L1 I cache: 16K, L1 D cache: 16K
CPU: L2 cache: 128K
CPU: After generic, caps: 0183fbff 00000000 00000000 00000000
CPU: Common caps: 0183fbff 00000000 00000000 00000000
Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
Checking for popad bug... OK.
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
mtrr: v1.40 (20010327) Richard Gooch ([email protected])
mtrr: detected mtrr type: Intel
CPU: L1 I cache: 16K, L1 D cache: 16K
CPU: L2 cache: 128K
CPU: After generic, caps: 0183fbff 00000000 00000000 00000000
CPU: Common caps: 0183fbff 00000000 00000000 00000000
CPU0: Intel Celeron (Mendocino) stepping 00
per-CPU timeslice cutoff: 365.80 usecs.
SMP motherboard not detected.
enabled ExtINT on CPU#0
ESR value before enabling vector: 00000000
ESR value after enabling vector: 00000000
Using local APIC timer interrupts.
calibrating APIC timer ...
..... CPU clock speed is 431.3882 MHz.
..... host bus clock speed is 66.3672 MHz.
cpu: 0, clocks: 663672, slice: 331836
CPU0<T0:663664,T1:331824,D:4,S:331836,C:663672>
Waiting on wait_init_idle (map = 0x0)
All processors have done init_idle
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfdb91, last bus=1
PCI: Using configuration type 1
PCI: Probing PCI hardware
PCI: Using IRQ router PIIX [8086/7110] at 00:07.0
PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 0 of device 01:00.0
PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 1 of device 01:00.0
PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 2 of device 01:00.0
Limiting direct PCI/PCI transfers.
isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards...
isapnp: No Plug & Play device found
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
Initializing RT netlink socket
Starting kswapd
VFS: Disk quotas vdquot_6.5.1
vesafb: framebuffer at 0xf8000000, mapped to 0xd480d000, size 32768k
vesafb: mode is 1024x768x16, linelength=2048, pages=20
vesafb: protected mode interface info at c000:4619
vesafb: scrolling: redraw
vesafb: directcolor: size=0:5:6:5, shift=0:11:5:0
Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 128x48
fb0: VESA VGA frame buffer device
pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.31
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
PIIX4: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 39
PIIX4: chipset revision 1
PIIX4: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xffa0-0xffa7, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xffa8-0xffaf, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA
hda: QUANTUM FIREBALL CR8.4A, ATA DISK drive
hdb: SONY DVD-ROM DDU1611, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
hdc: Maxtor 2F030L0, ATA DISK drive
hdd: OPTORITECD-RW CW5201, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
hda: 16514064 sectors (8455 MB) w/418KiB Cache, CHS=1027/255/63
hdc: 60058656 sectors (30750 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=59582/16/63
ide-cd: passing drive hdb to ide-scsi emulation.
ide-cd: passing drive hdd to ide-scsi emulation.
Partition check:
hda: hda1 hda2 < hda5 >
hdc: [PTBL] [3738/255/63] hdc1
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size 1024 blocksize
Cronyx Ltd, Synchronous PPP and CISCO HDLC (c) 1994
Linux port (c) 1998 Building Number Three Ltd & Jan "Yenya" Kasprzak.
Promise Fasttrak(tm) Softwareraid driver 0.03beta: No raid array found
Highpoint HPT370 Softwareraid driver for linux version 0.01
No raid array found
SCSI subsystem driver Revision: 1.00
scsi0 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices
Vendor: SONY Model: DVD-ROM DDU1611 Rev: GYS1
Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Vendor: OPTORITE Model: CD-RW CW5201 Rev: 160E
Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
Attached scsi CD-ROM sr1 at scsi0, channel 0, id 1, lun 0
sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 16x/40x cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12
sr1: scsi3-mmc drive: 52x/52x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP, IGMP
IP: routing cache hash table of 2048 buckets, 16Kbytes
TCP: Hash tables configured (established 32768 bind 32768)
NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0.
RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
Freeing initrd memory: 143k freed
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
Journalled Block Device driver loaded
kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds
EXT3 FS 2.4-0.9.19, 19 August 2002 on ide0(3,1), internal journal
EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
Freeing unused kernel memory: 128k freed
Adding Swap: 979924k swap-space (priority -1)
EXT3 FS 2.4-0.9.19, 19 August 2002 on ide0(3,1), internal journal
PCI: Found IRQ 10 for device 00:10.0
PCI: Sharing IRQ 10 with 00:07.2
scsi1 : Adaptec AIC7XXX EISA/VLB/PCI SCSI HBA DRIVER, Rev 6.2.8
<Adaptec 2940A Ultra SCSI adapter>
aic7860: Ultra Single Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 3/253 SCBs

Real Time Clock Driver v1.10e
usb.c: registered new driver usbdevfs
usb.c: registered new driver hub
usb-uhci.c: $Revision: 1.275 $ time 15:50:01 Mar 26 2003
usb-uhci.c: High bandwidth mode enabled
PCI: Found IRQ 10 for device 00:07.2
PCI: Sharing IRQ 10 with 00:10.0
usb-uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0xef40, IRQ 10
usb-uhci.c: Detected 2 ports
usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
hub.c: USB hub found
hub.c: 2 ports detected
usb-uhci.c: v1.275:USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver
Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
usb.c: registered new driver usb-storage
USB Mass Storage support registered.
Serial driver version 5.05c (2001-07-08) with MANY_PORTS SHARE_IRQ SERIAL_PCI ISAPNP enabled
ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
hub.c: new USB device 00:07.2-1, assigned address 2
es1371: version v0.30 time 15:49:35 Mar 26 2003
PCI: Found IRQ 9 for device 00:0c.0
PCI: Sharing IRQ 9 with 00:0e.0
es1371: found chip, vendor id 0x1274 device id 0x1371 revision 0x04
es1371: found es1371 rev 4 at io 0xef00 irq 9
es1371: features: joystick 0x0
ac97_codec: AC97 Audio codec, id: CRY3(Cirrus Logic CS4297)
usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 2, frame# 863
scsi2 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
Vendor: SanDisk Model: ImageMate II Rev: 1.30
Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Linux agpgart interface v0.99 (c) Jeff Hartmann
agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 262M
agpgart: Detected Intel 440BX chipset
agpgart: AGP aperture is 64M @ 0xf4000000
Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi2, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
sda : READ CAPACITY failed.
sda : status = 1, message = 00, host = 0, driver = 08
Current sd00:00: sense key Not Ready
Additional sense indicates Medium not present
sda : block size assumed to be 512 bytes, disk size 1GB.
sda: I/O error: dev 08:00, sector 0
I/O error: dev 08:00, sector 0
ldm_validate_partition_table(): Disk read failed.
I/O error: dev 08:00, sector 0
unable to read partition table
WARNING: USB Mass Storage data integrity not assured
USB Mass Storage device found at 2
ttyS1: LSR safety check engaged!
ttyS1: LSR safety check engaged!
blk: queue c032c328, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0xffffffff)
blk: queue c032bfc4, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0xffffffff)
parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778) [PCSPP,TRISTATE]
parport0: irq 7 detected
parport0: Printer, HEWLETT-PACKARD DESKJET 940C
lp0: using parport0 (polling).
lp0: console ready
ttyS1: LSR safety check engaged!
apm: BIOS not found.
[drm] AGP 0.99 aperture @ 0xf4000000 64MB
[drm] Initialized r128 2.3.0 20021029 on minor 0
PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 00:0f.0
ip_tables: (C) 2000-2002 Netfilter core team
Loading Lucent Modem Controller driver version 8.26
Detected Parameters Irq=9 BaseAddress=0xe000 ComAddress=0xeff0
Lucent Modem Interface driver version 8.26 (2002-11-04) with SHARE_IRQ enabled
ttyLT00 at 0xe000 (irq = 9) is a Lucent Modem
CSLIP: code copyright 1989 Regents of the University of California
PPP generic driver version 2.4.2
PPP BSD Compression module registered
PPP Deflate Compression module registered

grep scsi -=- when i did this it went nuts on my dialup connection - both send and recv - had to CTRL-C it - did I understand that command right?????

root@Linux:~# fdisk -l

Disk /dev/hdc: 30.7 GB, 30750031872 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 3738 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hdc1 * 1 3738 30025453+ c Win95 FAT32 (LBA)

Disk /dev/hda: 8455 MB, 8455200768 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 1027 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hda1 * 1 905 7269381 83 Linux
/dev/hda2 906 1027 979965 5 Extended
/dev/hda5 906 1027 979933+ 82 Linux swap

root@Linux:~# ls -l /dev/cdrom
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 Dec 23 14:12 /dev/cdrom -> sr0

/etc/fstab file contents:
# /etc/fstab: filesystem table.
#
# filesystem mountpoint type options dump pass
/dev/hda1 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1
/dev/hda5 none swap sw 0 0
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/fd0 /floppy vfat defaults,user,noauto,showexec,umask=022 0 0
/dev/cdrom /cdrom iso9660 defaults,ro,user,noexec,noauto 0 0
# partitions found by Knoppix
#/dev/hdc1 /mnt/hdc1 vfat noauto,users,exec,umask=000,uid=knoppix,gid=knoppi x 0 0
#/dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 vfat noauto,users,exec,umask=000,uid=knoppix,gid=knoppi x 0 0
#/dev/sda /mnt/sda auto noauto,users,exec 0 0

Hopefully this helps,
Cuddles

[Stephen]

Try this for the /etc/fstab make a backup before you change it by cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.original. You should always do this whenever you make a lot of changes to a file to have the original to reference or in the worst case senario copy back over the file you changed thus getting back to the original settings.



# /etc/fstab: filesystem table.
#
# filesystem mountpoint type options dump pass
/dev/hda1 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1
/dev/hda5 none swap sw 0 0
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
none /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs defaults 0 0
/dev/fd0 /floppy vfat defaults,user,noauto,showexec,umask=022 0 0
/scd0 /dvd iso9660 defaults,ro,user,noexec,noauto 0 0
/scd1 /cdrom iso9660 defaults,ro,user,noexec,noauto 0 0
# partitions found by Knoppix
/dev/hdc1 /mnt/hdc1 vfat noauto,users,exec,umask=000,uid=knoppix,gid=knoppi x 0 0
#/dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 vfat noauto,users,exec,umask=000,uid=knoppix,gid=knoppi x 0 0
/dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 auto noauto,users,exec 0 0


The first thing you need to do is make a directory for the mount point for your dvd with mkdir /dvd and check to see where the /dev/dvd if it exists links to with ls -l /dev/dvd if it points to /dev/sr0 or /dev/scd0 then everything is ok if it does not then rm /dev/dvd to remove then ln -s /dev/scd0 /dev/dvd to create the new link if it did not exist just make the link and then next you have to correct the link that is wrong for the cdrom/burner with rm /dev/cdrom to remove then ln -s /dev/scd1 /dev/cdrom to make the new link. You should also check to make sure that the /cdrom mount point exists but it should already be there if not make it. This should have everything working correctly although I am not sure about the SanDisk never used one of them.

The dmesg | grep scsi should not have done that it sould have produced output similar to this:



[10:24 PM Fri Dec 26: stephen @ ~]
>$ dmesg | grep scsi
Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=Linux ro root=301 hdc=ide-scsi apm=on
ide_setup: hdc=ide-scsi
ide-scsi is deprecated for cd burning! Use ide-cd and give dev=/dev/hdX as device
scsi0 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices
sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 32x/32x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
Attached scsi generic sg0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0, type 5


You may have missed the "|" pipe character which on my keyboard is above the \ key. All steps except the dmesg would have to be done as root.

[Cuddles]

First of all, thank you Stephen for helping me out here.
Second, yes I did mess up the dmesg command, with the italic I thought it was a [slash] not a [pipe] - Do you still need that information? I can still provide it...

Now to the next step, did all that you said, I even did a restart - I come from a long line of Windows history - you reboot whenever you do anything. This is what I got...

Desktop:
Icon CD - CD-ROM (scd1) (not mounted)
Icon HD - Hard Disc (scd0) (not mounted)
all else looks perfect - the SanDisc is a Flash writer chip - never tried it in Knoppix, nor in HD Install - not important at this time.

Issues:
When a CD-Audio is in the DVD drive (I assume that is scd0) - I can't open, mount, or play using open with "XMMS"

When a CD-Audio is in the CD-ROM drive/CD-REWRITE (I assume that is scd1) - I can't open, mount, or play using open with "XMMS"

I did write down messages given with the scd1 device:
CD-Audio in scd1 ---
Mount = special device /scd1 does not exist
Open With XMMS = retrieving data from devices is not supported

Now here is a side note, when I ran with the Live CD, Knoppix, when I right clicked on these devices, KNEW that I could "Play CD Audio" or even "Play DVD / something else" - and even though the device was not mounted, I could select these, never had the DVD test, the Live CD was always loaded in the DVD device, but the CD-RW I could put an audio CD and use "Play Audio CD" on the right click, and it played, with XMMS by default.

Are we working to this conclusion? That was a slick setup, and I easily was able to navigate and work with the interface that way.

Again Stephen,
Thanks for the help,
Cuddles

[Stephen]

First of all, thank you Stephen for helping me out here.
Second, yes I did mess up the dmesg command, with the italic I thought it was a [slash] not a [pipe] - Do you still need that information? I can still provide it...

The information that I would have gotten from that command was in the entire dmesg that you posted so no I do not need it anymore and that is just about what I thought for the pipe.


Now to the next step, did all that you said, I even did a restart - I come from a long line of Windows history - you reboot whenever you do anything. This is what I got...

Desktop:
Icon CD - CD-ROM (scd1) (not mounted)
Icon HD - Hard Disc (scd0) (not mounted)
all else looks perfect - the SanDisc is a Flash writer chip - never tried it in Knoppix, nor in HD Install - not important at this time.


You should right click on the desktop and use the Create New -> CD/DVD-ROM Device and make two new shortcuts for the DVD drive use the /dev/scd0 in the device tab for it and call it DVD and for the burner use the /dev/scd1 then call it Burner this should not conflict with any other names on the desktop shortcuts and put a data cd in each drive and make sure that you can access by clicking on the icon for each drive. The icons that you have there now are most likely pointing to the wrong devices in the device tab for the shortcut. The HD icon should definitely not have the /dev/scd0 as the device that is your dvd drive it should be either /dev/hda1 or /dev/hdc1 for your HD's partitions that are in the system you may want to change or create new ones here as well then delete all the old icons once you confirm that everything works. note: with the data cd you put in you may have to right click on the icon for the drive and select unmount to be able to eject the disc after you access it in the drives.



Issues:
When a CD-Audio is in the DVD drive (I assume that is scd0) - I can't open, mount, or play using open with "XMMS"

When a CD-Audio is in the CD-ROM drive/CD-REWRITE (I assume that is scd1) - I can't open, mount, or play using open with "XMMS"

I did write down messages given with the scd1 device:
CD-Audio in scd1 ---
Mount = special device /scd1 does not exist
Open With XMMS = retrieving data from devices is not supported

Try to play an audio cd in the cd/rw first using the Play Location from the menu and use /dev/cdrom and you should be able to play the cd next stop the cd from playing and go into the Options -> Preferences from the menu and under the Audio I/O plugins tab select the AudioCD Reader in the plugin box once highlighted then click on the Configure tab and in the CD Recorder Configuration window that pops up choose the Output tab and check the Read Digital CD Audio is selected and confim the selection by the OK button then in Preferences click apply and close the window with OK shutdown XMMS and restart and confirm that the digital play back works. Now that the digital play back is working try the /dev/dvd for the playback with the cd in that drive obviously.BTW now that I am thinking about it which device the dvd or cdrw has the cable attached to the sound card if it is the dvd then use the /dev/dvd for the first playing of the audio cd then onto the cdrw for the second playing after having the digital play back working.




Now here is a side note, when I ran with the Live CD, Knoppix, when I right clicked on these devices, KNEW that I could "Play CD Audio" or even "Play DVD / something else" - and even though the device was not mounted, I could select these, never had the DVD test, the Live CD was always loaded in the DVD device, but the CD-RW I could put an audio CD and use "Play Audio CD" on the right click, and it played, with XMMS by default.

Are we working to this conclusion? That was a slick setup, and I easily was able to navigate and work with the interface that way.

Again Stephen,
Thanks for the help,
Cuddles

I never used that setup but I am about to put a hd in my machine that had knoppix on it to replace the hd that died so once I get that re-installed I will check how they have the links and icons setup when I get the knoppix back on it.

[Cuddles]

Stephen, I really appreciate the help in this...

And with that, don't get mad at me here, I am seriously dumb and a newb to all this, but, I neglected to realize that all the time I've been doing apt-get 's -=- not many, but a few -=- I have noticed the #### not upgraded line - I am now doing more than (estimated) 2 days worth of an apt-get upgrade -=- I hope all the word here hasn't been in vain [?]

Anyway, assuming that I haven't boggled the whole thing, here is what I did, am, and got as results...

apt-get upgrade -=- in background, with more than 6xx upgrades, and over 2 days to ETA.
created a DVD and Burner icons on desktop as per your instructions, device had a pull-down that had the /scd# in them, I tried them first, with below results, and then went back in and forced the /dev/scd# into the device - same results again as below.
moved the old icons for the scd0 and scd1 off to the side, so I know what to delete, when the time comes.

tried to click on the "burner" icon, with a DATA CD in the device, got the following:

Could not mount device
The reported error was:
mount: special device /scd1 does not exist

I did not try the DVD icon yet, assuming same results as above for the /scd1 device at this time.

Are we getting closer?
Thanks again,
Cuddles

[Cuddles]

OOPS, I forgot this, just after I clicked the submit button...

DVD has the audio cable running from device to sound card. Knoppix Live CD was interesting on this though - this is something Windows never did - I could put an audio cd in the CD-RW and STILL play the cd through the computer sound system, as well as using the DVD - In Windows, I could only play a audio CD in the DVD device and get audio through my computer - If I used the CD-RW in Windows to play an audio cd it would go through the motions of playing, but never come out of the computer in sound. I gotta hand it to Knoppix for that one, doing something Windows never did...

One final note: Considering I had to add another post here, I did put a DATA CD into the DVD device, and upon clicking the DVD icon on the desktop - came up with the exact same error message box, but with the DVD's device name instead.

Cuddles

[Stephen]

Stephen, I really appreciate the help in this...

And with that, don't get mad at me here, I am seriously dumb and a newb to all this, but, I neglected to realize that all the time I've been doing apt-get 's -=- not many, but a few -=- I have noticed the #### not upgraded line - I am now doing more than (estimated) 2 days worth of an apt-get upgrade -=- I hope all the word here hasn't been in vain [?]

You can stop the apt-get upgrade if you want with with CTRL+C and resume it later it will pick up at where it left off.



Anyway, assuming that I haven't boggled the whole thing, here is what I did, am, and got as results...

apt-get upgrade -=- in background, with more than 6xx upgrades, and over 2 days to ETA.
created a DVD and Burner icons on desktop as per your instructions, device had a pull-down that had the /scd# in them, I tried them first, with below results, and then went back in and forced the /dev/scd# into the device - same results again as below.
moved the old icons for the scd0 and scd1 off to the side, so I know what to delete, when the time comes.

tried to click on the "burner" icon, with a DATA CD in the device, got the following:

Could not mount device
The reported error was:
mount: special device /scd1 does not exist

This does not look right the and I know why I have typos in the /etc/fstab that I have posted above and you used the /scd0 & 1 and they should have been /dev/scd0 and /dev/scd1 you should edit the file and put the /dev in front of the lines, sorry about that I should have checked the post more carefully and to top it off I get it correct in the paragraph below it Doh!



I did not try the DVD icon yet, assuming same results as above for the /scd1 device at this time.

Are we getting closer?
Thanks again,
Cuddles
Yes we are the shortcuts should work correctly with the corrected typos. Just seen the next post when I was previewing this It looks like knoppix is already using the digital output for the audio cd's so you should be able to access them with the play location /dev/dvd or /dev/cdrom in XMMS. The digial output uses the system bus (IDE cable) instead of the audio cable from the back of the device to play the sound that is why you could play it in knoppix and not in windows.

[Cuddles]

Better, much better...

1) icons when clicked now OPEN a konqueror window of the disks contents...

This is nice when I did both devices with a DATA CD. But...

2) Placed a CD Audio disk into the CD-RW first, didn't see you later post about doing the DVD first - setup XMMS as stated, exited, came back and asked again for the Window that asks for the PLAY FILE selection, canceled out of that window and went back into the PLAY LOCATION - set it back to /dev/cdrom - played fine, exited.

Went to the DVD device, placed a AUDIO CD in the DVD device, right clicked the DVD icon, and selected open with... selected XMMS - XMMS opened again with the PLAY FILE location window, closed it, selected the PLAY LOCATION - set it, went to configs changed them, they were already set as stated. Played CD through DVD on XMMS - closed down XMMS. ReRightClicked on DVD - had to select open with again - XMMS - XMMS yet again brought up the PLAY FILE location window - can I get this thing to automatically use the play location of the device I OPEN IT WITH ? This is becoming a pain in the rumpus.

One good thing - "Burner" and "DVD" are at least working - haven't tryed the DVD with an actual DVD in it yet - assume I need to use XINE for that? Any other special stuff?

Finishing up (wish list):
1) DVD and BURNER icons to have the selection of Play CD or Play DVD options, or at least have a right click option that "pushes" the device I am using into the program I am running for the device - i.e. DVD pushes the /dev/dvd into XINE - CD AUDIO pushes the [device] into XMMS.
2) Test and ensure the DVD device can play an actual DVD as well as the CD AUDIO issue above.

If anything, its a pain, but YOU GOT ME WORKING ! ! ! ! !
I am extremely greatful to have you gotten me this far :D Thanks
Cuddles

[Cuddles]

Just as a test, and possible completion of the DVD playing a DVD test, #2 in my WISH LIST...

Placed a DVD in the DVD device, fired up XINE, clicked the DVD Navigator, and WHAMMO - it reallized it was "THE MATRIX RELOADED" - YES !

Hit Play, and the playback is choppy -=- I think I need to set dma on this - right??????

I saw the command many times in a lot of these newsgroup posts, something -1 [thats a ONE - right?]

most of the posts showed using hda1 or something, would I replace that with /dev/dvd or do I use the "original" device, /dev/scd# ????

Cuddles

[tearinghairout]

Hi Cuddles
If you refer to the second last paragraph of my last post in the "playing a dvd is choppy" topic, I think it is saying you should enable dma on hdb, that being the physical "SONY DVD-ROM DDU1611, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive" on your system.
THO

[Stephen]

Just as a test, and possible completion of the DVD playing a DVD test, #2 in my WISH LIST...

Placed a DVD in the DVD device, fired up XINE, clicked the DVD Navigator, and WHAMMO - it reallized it was "THE MATRIX RELOADED" - YES !

Hit Play, and the playback is choppy -=- I think I need to set dma on this - right??????

I saw the command many times in a lot of these newsgroup posts, something -1 [thats a ONE - right?]

most of the posts showed using hda1 or something, would I replace that with /dev/dvd or do I use the "original" device, /dev/scd# ????

Cuddles

It already looks like the dma is set unless it got turned off by the scsi but on my machine it is turned on with the scsi emulation working for my burner it does not seem to want to test the speed though. From your dmesg above:


ide0: BM-DMA at 0xffa0-0xffa7, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xffa8-0xffaf, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA


From my machine:


HappyTux:/home/stephen# hdparm -i /dev/hdc

/dev/hdc:

Model=HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4040B, FwRev=A104, SerialNo=K2837V30615
Config={ Fixed Removeable DTR<=5Mbs DTR>10Mbs nonMagnetic }
RawCHS=0/0/0, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=0
BuffType=unknown, BuffSize=0kB, MaxMultSect=0
(maybe): CurCHS=0/0/0, CurSects=0, LBA=yes, LBAsects=0
IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:120,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
PIO modes: pio0 pio3 pio4
DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2
UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 *udma2
AdvancedPM=no
Drive conforms to: device does not report version:

* signifies the current active mode

HappyTux:/home/stephen# hdparm -tT /dev/hdc

/dev/hdc:
read() hit EOF - device too small
Timing buffered disk reads: read() hit EOF - device too small
HappyTux:/home/stephen# hdparm /dev/hdc

/dev/hdc:
HDIO_GET_MULTCOUNT failed: Invalid argument
IO_support = 1 (32-bit)
unmaskirq = 1 (on)
using_dma = 1 (on)
keepsettings = 0 (off)
readonly = 0 (off)
readahead = 256 (on)
HDIO_GETGEO failed: Invalid argument
HappyTux:/home/stephen# hdparm /dev/scd0
/dev/scd0 not supported by hdparm
HappyTux:/home/stephen# hdparm /dev/dvd
/dev/dvd not supported by hdparm


You have to use the /dev/hdb which is what your drive looks like to the hdparm command to check the settings it supports with the -i option to see what it is actually set too you use the no option example in my post above the -Tt options test the speed of the drive for a large and small file size transfer. To turn on the settings for dma (I am not sure this will work never done it on a cdrom before) you would use hdparm -d1 /dev/hdb this would work as well for your HD's if it is not turned on on them as will the rest of the command options. You have to be root to use all these commands.



Finishing up (wish list):
1) DVD and BURNER icons to have the selection of Play CD or Play DVD options, or at least have a right click option that "pushes" the device I am using into the program I am running for the device - i.e. DVD pushes the /dev/dvd into XINE - CD AUDIO pushes the [device] into XMMS.

I will check the setup in knoppix when I get the hd I just took out of my main machine to put the new one into it, then I have to install in the spare machine with the dead hd and install knoppix on it so that may be tommorow before I get that done.

[Cuddles]

Sorry THO - I didn't mean to be missunderstood - I was just questioning. I really didn't even understand the whole "dump" I even placed in this thread, until you said it was being reported in it. Looked through the whole pile, and realized that your right, and it was hdb - I don't have a clue on this whole thing. I've got more than 3 gig on this drive, all being Knoppix/Debian, and I don't have a clue what, or how, it works.... [does this sound like a true blue noob to anyone? I admit it though.]

Thanks TearingHairOut, you have been more than helpful, maybe even so far as being that knight in shinning armor :D

Thanks Stephen, you too have been enormously helpful, I've got a CD and DVD working, far more than I had before. BTW: Can I delete those "defective" icons that were pointing to the scd# devices, the ones labeled CD-ROM (scd0/1) now? I have the other Burner and DVD ones still.

I hope I don't have this much trouble with the new system, but if I do, I know that this newgroup will be here, and with a lot of Guru (even if you both say you are noob's, doesn't matter) people like yourselves to help out.

Thanks for everything,
Eternally thankful,
Cuddles

[Stephen]

Thanks Stephen, you too have been enormously helpful, I've got a CD and DVD working, far more than I had before. BTW: Can I delete those "defective" icons that were pointing to the scd# devices, the ones labeled CD-ROM (scd0/1) now? I have the other Burner and DVD ones still.



Yes you may as well delete the old icons the new ones you made are working fine so there is no need for the others now.