on board Via network card not working with knoppix

i have a new computer the nethwork card is on board Knoppix does not get it to work
here is the ouput of ls pci -v
00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8375 [KM266] Host Bridge
Subsystem: Elitegroup Computer Systems: Unknown device 0a85
Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 8
Memory at d0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
Capabilities: [a0] AGP version 2.0
Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2

00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8633 [Apollo Pro266 AGP] (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 0
Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0
Memory behind bridge: e0000000-e1ffffff
Prefetchable memory behind bridge: d8000000-dfffffff
Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2

00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 80) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
Subsystem: Elitegroup Computer Systems: Unknown device 0a85
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 16
I/O ports at d000 [size=32]
Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2

00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 80) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
Subsystem: Elitegroup Computer Systems: Unknown device 0a85
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 17
I/O ports at d400 [size=32]
Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2

00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 80) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
Subsystem: Elitegroup Computer Systems: Unknown device 0a85
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 18
I/O ports at d800 [size=32]
Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2

00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 82) (prog-if 20 [EHCI])
Subsystem: Elitegroup Computer Systems: Unknown device 0a85
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 19
Memory at e2000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2

00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8235 ISA Bridge
Subsystem: Elitegroup Computer Systems: Unknown device 0a85
Flags: bus master, stepping, medium devsel, latency 0
Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2

00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586/B/686A/B PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06) (prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP])
Subsystem: Elitegroup Computer Systems: Unknown device 0a85
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 16
I/O ports at dc00 [size=16]
Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2

00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
Subsystem: Elitegroup Computer Systems: Unknown device 0a85
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 18
I/O ports at e000 [size=256]
Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2

00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 74)
Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine II] Embeded Ethernet Controller on VT8235
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 16
I/O ports at e800 [size=256]
Memory at e2001000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. [ProSavageDDR K4M266] (prog-if 00 [VGA])
Subsystem: Elitegroup Computer Systems: Unknown device 0a85
Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 16
Memory at e1000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512K]
Memory at d8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
Expansion ROM at <unassigned> [disabled] [size=64K]
Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 2
Capabilities: [80] AGP version 2.0

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BUT SUSE 8.1 has it working always and there lspci give me :
00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 3116
Subsystem: Elitegroup Computer Systems: Unknown device 0a85
Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 8
Memory at d0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
Capabilities: [a0] AGP version 2.0
Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2

00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8633 [Apollo Pro266 AGP] (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 0
Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0
Memory behind bridge: e0000000-e1ffffff
Prefetchable memory behind bridge: d8000000-dfffffff
Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2

00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 80) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
Subsystem: Elitegroup Computer Systems: Unknown device 0a85
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11
I/O ports at d000 [size=32]
Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2

00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 80) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
Subsystem: Elitegroup Computer Systems: Unknown device 0a85
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 3
I/O ports at d400 [size=32]
Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2

00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 80) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
Subsystem: Elitegroup Computer Systems: Unknown device 0a85
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 10
I/O ports at d800 [size=32]
Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2

00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 82) (prog-if 20 [EHCI])
Subsystem: Elitegroup Computer Systems: Unknown device 0a85
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 5
Memory at e2000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2

00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233A ISA Bridge
Subsystem: Elitegroup Computer Systems: Unknown device 0a85
Flags: bus master, stepping, medium devsel, latency 0
Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2

00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586B PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06) (prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP])
Subsystem: Elitegroup Computer Systems: Unknown device 0a85
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32
I/O ports at dc00 [size=16]
Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2

00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
Subsystem: Elitegroup Computer Systems: Unknown device 0a85
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 10
I/O ports at e000 [size=256]
Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2

00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 74)
Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 0102
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11
I/O ports at e800 [size=256]
Memory at e2001000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. VT8751 [ProSavageDDR P4M266] VGA Controller (prog-if 00 [VGA])
Subsystem: Elitegroup Computer Systems: Unknown device 0a85
Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11
Memory at e1000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512K]
Memory at d8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
Expansion ROM at <unassigned> [disabled] [size=64K]
Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 2
Capabilities: [80] AGP version 2.0

if you have any suggestion please send them to me. i am also trying to learn. So if there are pointers i will go and look at them. i am also trying to learn with LFS.
Thanks,
Kemal

Re: on board Via network card not working with knoppix

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Originally Posted by casterman

i have a new computer the nethwork card is on board Knoppix does not get it to work
here is the ouput of ls pci -v

00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 74)
Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine II] Embeded Ethernet Controller on VT8235
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 16
I/O ports at e800 [size=256]
Memory at e2001000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2

__________________________________________________ ____________________
BUT SUSE 8.1 has it working always and there lspci give me :

00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 74)
Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 0102
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11
I/O ports at e800 [size=256]
Memory at e2001000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2

if you have any suggestion please send them to me. i am also trying to learn. So if there are pointers i will go and look at them. i am also trying to learn with LFS.
Thanks,
Kemal

You may want to try the cheat code pci=biosirq to see if that helps Knoppix is using an IRQ higher than SUSE also you may want to look at the output of lsmod on both to see if the module for the NIC is loaded (IIRC it is via-rhine).

Do yourself a pleasure and buy a 3com card.
They come now for 40$ .
I think it's not worth the pain :wink:

greetzz

Meh, I have the same problem. But I'm not going to go into my specs and stuff because the machine with the problem isn't the one that I want to use Knoppix on. Where I am (UK) you can get a cheap PCI network card for about £15 that is reliable - because network cards are so old you don't get much better.

Re: on board Via network card not working with knoppix

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You may want to try the cheat code pci=biosirq to see if that helps Knoppix is using an IRQ higher than SUSE also you may want to look at the output of lsmod on both to see if the module for the NIC is loaded (IIRC it is via-rhine).

I have the same Via Rhine onboard NIC and what got it working for me was disabling APIC (ACPI ?) in the BIOS setup AND booting with:
knoppix pci=bios no{apic}

As you indicated, it must be something to do with apic/knoppix giving the via adapter a high (remapped) IRQ, in my case it was IRQ 16. With apic disabled it was assigned IRQ 11 (not remapped) and works perfectly.

Thanks for the hint about the cheat codes!
modal

If you want to persist on usage of VIA network onboard stuff ,try uisng the overclockix cd. This customized knoppix has the proper drivers onboard.

It does have a newer rhine-II module. But you still have to use codes mentioned above to get the right IRQ assignment.

Problems with VT6102 solved with acpi=off or no apm at boot.