A new book, "Moving to Linux: Kiss the Blue Screen of Death Goodbye!" featuring Knoppix, and including a Knoppix CD has been released.
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A new book, "Moving to Linux: Kiss the Blue Screen of Death Goodbye!" featuring Knoppix, and including a Knoppix CD has been released.
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Marcel Gagne is a good writer. The book should prove helpful to people. Including a Knoppix cd with a intro book on Linux is really a smart idea. What better way is there to get a newbie up and running QUICKLY with linux than by using Knoppix.
knoppix will prove excellent for linux n00bs :)
Kiss the blue screen of death goodbye.
Yeah. And get ready to kiss kernel panic.
"kernel panic" Google hits 187,000
"blue screen of death" Google hits 131,000
And, uh, "kernal panic" Google hits 26,400
Except for the price of admission, Linux is as much of a circus as any other OS.
And, you know, it's just a computer - Get a Life!
Having met Marcel at Penguicon 1.0 in May (and as a tech writer myself), I most certainly agree. He's witty, funny, and an excellent communicator. This book is on my short list.Quote:
Originally Posted by aay
Sorry but your comparing apples and oranges. There's a lot of people building their own linux systems from the ground up. When you do this there is obviously a lot of room for mistakes, but at least you CAN do this with linux. Free to tinker with the kernel et all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dallas Eschenauer
Likewise I've got linux servers that run for months on end (and in the case of some other people years) without ever needing a reboot. I seriously doubt whether or not that can be said of any windows server.
I must say however that the only time I've experienced kernel panic is when I've either booted from or installed bad cd's. In this case it's been my fault for a bad burn or else my download has been corrupted.
I don't know about the experience of others in the forum, but I've experienced a lot more of the BSOD than kernel panic.
Eadz,Quote:
Originally Posted by eadz
Maybe we should promote this book somehow? Or at least point newbies to it as a good reference book that is compatible with their goals of learning Knoppix.
One way would be to get a review on slashdot ( or your local newspaper / mag ). I'm not a book reviewer though.. Another way is to donate it to your local library. And I could put a link on the homepage too..Quote:
Originally Posted by aay
There is also an Amazon commission program. You could get a small amount for each sale referred from here. You deserve it!Quote:
Originally Posted by eadz
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dallas Eschenauer
Actually your stats are bogus: I googled this?
blue screen of death = Results 1 - 10 of about 340,000. Search took 0.55 seconds.
kernel panic = Results 1 - 10 of about 162,000. Search took 0.12 seconds.
Regardless of the outcome only a complete monkey-tard could draw any conclusions as to stability from these results as all Linux kernel development is conducted openly on the net as apposed to M$s closed door policies. The general public will never see a development kernel from Redmond. As to your assumptions about the quality of my life I can assure you that it is very good.
Very lame troll Mr. Eschenauer perhaps you need to get a life?
Temper people temper.
It is only computers and oses not our frients and family
Best Regards
Mike
Googling blue screen of death returns pages with combinations of "blue," "screen," and "death," omitting "of."Quote:
Originally Posted by RoadKill
Googling "blue screen of death" (as I indicated) returns the value cited.
you know you can't make anything of those stats right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dallas Eschenauer
Blue screen of death? Yes I got fed up with that 6 months ago, am totally convinced that Linux is the way forward.
Dallas:
Why does it matter anyway? What's your motive for posting this? You don't like Linux? Fine. Don't use it then.
Frankly, I was just going to ignore you, but then I thought perhaps it would be worth asking you why you bothered to post.......
I use Win XP from time to time and there haven't been any BSOD incidents. So what? This reputation of Windows goes way back, and the title of the book is just suggesting Linux as a solution.
Don't be so sensitive :lol:
Words like "troll" spring to mind, but we are reasonably polite around here AFAIK, so I will refrain from expanding on that thought...
if anything, these "stats" just show how much better the linux community is compared to that of the windows community. if there are more pages talking about kernel panics, that probably means more people helping to fix them.
Comparing kernel panic to Blue... is not accurate.
1) Many (if not most) of the linux reports will be from developers
Eg I have written a new driver and when I load it I get a kernel panic.
2) Blue screen is coloquial - "General Protection Fault" - Results 1 - 10 of about 911,000. Search took 0.18 seconds. This is valid for an older version of windows, but the results are more accurate.
Anthony
http://xminc.com/mt/
Marcel is the "chef" at Linux Journal, right? If so, sounds like a good book then! Blast it all, he beat me to it....
Regards,
Yes. I met him at PenguiCon. I also saw him there on a panel discussion with Eric Raymond, Rob Landley, and others. Friendly, witty, and an excellent writer as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by A. Jorge Garcia
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-- Michael Rudas
Metro Detroit Linux Users' Group: http://www.MDLUG.org
PengiuCon 2.0, April 2004: http://www.PenguiCon.org
Here's a link to a good review of this book over at Unix Review:
http://www.unixreview.com/documents/s=1357/ur0309k/
(edited to reflect change on Unix Review site)
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-- Michael Rudas
Oak Park Computer Club: http://opcc.2ya.com
Metro Detroit Linux Users' Group: http://www.MDLUG.org
PenguiCon 2.0 Open Source & Science Fiction convention, April 2004: http://www.PenguiCon.org
Might anyone know what version of Knoppix is available with Marcel's book "Moving To Linux:..." Is it 3.2, 3.3, or any other version? Thanx!
Yesterday, I recovered data from an XP system that would not boot with Knoppix. Not particularly difficult, but much more functional than any MS alternative. I posted the complete story on our home page ls.net
3.2 I think, going by the screenshot on the cover which is KDE3.x, although the screenshots inside the book are 2.2xQuote:
Originally Posted by Scofius
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Iexperience kernel panic on my older machine, about one time in every twenty boots. (it is a basic workstation that is shutdown about at the end of the dayQuote:
Originally Posted by aay
I'm not sure how your system is set up but of all the systems I have ever loaded Knoppix on I have never seen kernel panic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dallas Eschenauer
Running off the disc or from a harddrive. Knoppix and all Linux distros I have used in the last 18 months have been superiror to Windows in every way.
As soon as the hardware companies start putting out drivers for Linux and software companies see that there is a market for Linux software there will be no reason for people to use windows. Unless that is that they like to torture themselves.
Sorry, but your link is dead....Quote:
Originally Posted by Loper
Regards,
The original link changed on the Unix Review site. I edited the original post; here's the new link again: http://www.unixreview.com/documents/s=1357/ur0309kQuote:
Originally Posted by A. Jorge Garcia
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-- Michael Rudas
Oak Park Computer Club: http://opcc.2ya.com
Metro Detroit Linux Users' Group: http://www.MDLUG.org
PenguiCon 2.0 Open Source & Science Fiction convention, April 2004: http://www.PenguiCon.org
Sorry, still dead....
I am a newbie to Knoppix - I had seen the advertisement for the book pop up once in a while, but just gave it advertisement garbage poop.
With the consideration from those in this thread, and the lack of my NON-MS knowledge of other OS's on the market - I am seriously going to check this book out the next time I am in the store.
I am not one who stands on the old saying "ignornace is bliss", or something along the lines of an anti- "forethought" knowledge. I want to know what I am getting into, BEFORE I get into it. In my theory, I want to go online with Knoppix, and BE secure, before I hit the internet. I have been with MS since DOS 1.12, and have seen the Windows Updates each time I have Windows Updater suggest new patches.
My problem with "the other OS" is simply that "The Flying Window OS" makes new OS's without previous knowledge of the problems in those OS's. From what I have seen, and heard, Windows 95 had tons of security problems, and just when they get all those patched up, they released Windows 98, which did not have any of those patches in it. In other words, Win98 was open to ALL security issues that Win95 started out with. Considering Win95, 98, NT, ME, SE, XP, 2000, etc... That is a lot of patching up. I see Knoppix as a way to START OFF secure, I hope. My problem is the learning curve involved with a new (foreign) OS, one that I have no clue on. But, anyway, thanks to this forum, and this thread - I see a way to learn more about something I do not know.
Thanks,
Cuddles
I just got the book in the mail yesterday. I ordered it from Linux Central. Already read the first chapter and so far my impression of it is pretty good. I should have it read in a few days and I'm also going to fire up the Knoppix CD that came with it. So I'll post again a little later. Actually what attracted me was the price, $24.95. BTW Happy New Year!!!!! :)
Looks like a really good buy for the noobies out there!
I had a hard time finding it at my local Borders, however. They had one copy hidden in a book case in the back with all the old linix titles....
Happy New Year!
Actually just a little while ago I loaded it and I am very, very impressed with Knoppix. I just loaded it from the CD and presto! away it went. The very first time I had a problem with a blurry screen but that was because I was using it on an Acer 34T 14" monitor and the default resolution was set too high, so I rebooted, hit F2 for help and found how to manually set the resolution for X of which I set at 640X480.
It detected everything perfectly other than that. Of a curious note I've tried other distros before and ran into problems predominantly with burners but this time it listed the device as scd0 which is correct and was able to mount and read the drive (in my mind this a major accomplishment). Also found that it loaded (believe it or not) from the CD faster than Win '98. And finally the mouse was jumpy but this is because I used a Zoltrix PS/2 wheel mouse which never worked properly with any of the other distros so I'll just swap it for a Logitech and that will solve that problem. So if anyone is totally new to Linux I hope this is of some help to them. So for the sake of interest here are the specs of the computer I loaded it on. Oh one other note I should mention is that I've read that LG drives don't work well in Linux but in this case I no problems with it.
AMD Duron 1200
128 MB Infineon DDR RAM
ECS K7S5A Pro Mobo
Forsa GF2 MX400 64MB Video Card
Maxtor 40BGB 7200 RPM Hard Drive
101 AT keyboard with PS/2 adapter
SoundBlaster Live 5.1 Sound Card
Onboard Network Card
Acer 34T 14" monitor
LG 52X32X52 CDRW drive
So my impression of Knoppix is it is simple, clean, lean and fast. If anyone would like to correct me on this you're more than welcome. As mentioned I've I've tried other distros, Mandrake 9.0, Redhat 8, Libranet, Storm, Corel,, Slackware, Icepack, and I'm not flaming any other distros because I appreciate the effort they put into their respective works after all it was Mandy that got me into Linux. I am only looking for a distro that I can share with my buddies who want to break away from Windows, false guilt, high prices, crashes, BSoD's,viruses, spyware, and in the future "phoning home"(...scary stuff) and simply put from the chains. Also I got Gentoo (They're right about the sexy logo :wink: ) but I'll wait untill I can get my brain a little more reacquainted with Linux after being knumbed by 98 before I try it (looks a little tricky)
So next is to do HDD install and dual-boot at first then give M$ the toss completely. I'm also going out to get a SMC Barricade DSL router and see how well that works out with Knoppix ( and I suspect I'll have no problems)
Also going to get a Toshiba DVD drive to how it behaves with that (Local store has it for $37 CAD+ tax)
So if anyone would like to know things go I would be more than happy to give updates on progress.
Cheers!!
Desire
Here, please read this related thread:
http://www.knoppix.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7021
for all the new Marcel Gane Fans!
Regards,
For anyone wanting to know the version of Knoppix that came with Mr. Gagne's book is 3.2. Today I finished reading the book...... :shock: ......whew!! all 319ppg since last Thursday, with the exception of Appendix B
(16ppg) which is devoted to shell commands (very helpfull) and I'll go over that tomorrow on my way to work.
I should also mention that the CD that came with the book doesn't have HDD install option so you can't install it to a hard drive. That's ok I ordered a 3.3 CD and it should be here around Wednesday, in the meantime I'll just keep running the CD that came with the book.
desire:
You know you can just download and burn your own CD. A new revision comes out every 2-4 weeks and a new version comes out about once or twice a year.
Enjoy,
Yes I am well aware that I can dowload,that's ok getting the CD is just a little more practical for me.
Thanks
Desire
So apparently you like W$ better than Linux. OK, then go away and leave the rest of us alone. 8)Quote:
Kiss the blue screen of death goodbye.
Yeah. And get ready to kiss kernel panic.
"kernel panic" Google hits 187,000
"blue screen of death" Google hits 131,000
And, uh, "kernal panic" Google hits 26,400
Except for the price of admission, Linux is as much of a circus as any other OS.
And, you know, it's just a computer - Get a Life!
And, since you forgot:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dallas Eschenauer
"bsod" Google hits 84,900
weirdo.
I get different results.... from the top of page Google made:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dallas Eschenauer
Searched the web for blue screen of death. Results 1 - 10 of about 1,020,000
Then, a few minutes later:
Searched the web for blue screen of death. Results 1 - 10 of about 1,030,000
Checking for 'Windows XP crash', I see:
Searched the web for Windows XP crash. Results 1 - 10 of about 458,000
Other interesting results:
Searched the web for Microsoft sucks. Results 1 - 10 of about 447,000
Searched the web for Windows crash. Results 1 - 10 of about 2,680,000
I got a life, and no, I repeat, no kernel panic, and no, I repeat no Blue Screen Of Death! I use Debian, installed through Knoppix, replacing Mandrake 9.0, which caused no 'kernel panic' either. I have been using Linux for over a year, and not one, single kernel panic! What's your prob, dude? :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dallas Eschenauer
BTW, "blue screen of death" - google - 64000; bsod - google - 85000; "General Protection Fault" (the message most often seen in a bsod) - google - 45000; GPF - google - 274000.
Take a look at this site, if you need a bsod laugh: http://zem.squidly.org/bsod/ it gives you some images of bsod's that have shown up in some rather strange places... :D