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I have successfully booted from an ISO file on my ntfs drive. At the Knoppix boot prompt I types "knoppix bootfrom=/dev/sda1/K.iso" where sda1 was the
hard drive designator as seen by Knoppix and K.iso was the name of the ISO file . Not sure if a wild card will work.
Gilles,
It works great! Firstly I told vmWare Player to use an existing VM.
Then all I did was to tell vmWare Player where the Knoppix ISO file was... in Settings.
Viola!. Knoppix that has NTFS support built in.
When I looked into the menu.lst on sda1... so I could add the "home=scan"... I found a parameter I don't understand.
"data=ramdisk"
What I was hoping to do was to add a new disk to the VM... and put a knoppix.img persistent home on it...
I did manage to get that created... and it showed up as /dev/sdb
Something did crop up... the screensaver... it goes straight to it after X finishes loading.
Data persistence would help that out.
But I am using vmware player 3.1.5 build-491717... because ver 4 needs better hardware than my laptop I have at home. (I'm never there!)
Thank You
Hello,
Please find below the links to the improved minirt init boot for Knoppix 7.0.0 (Magazine release):
(please do not just left click but use the "save as" right click option to save it)
http://s94002264.onlinehome.us/grub/k700/minirt_700a.gz
http://s94002264.onlinehome.us/grub/...minirt_700a.gz
and a minimal virtual machine using the latest vmware tools from their current beta
(as the official released tools do not work with the new kernel used in Knoppix 7.0):
http://s94002264.onlinehome.us/grub/vmk700_646643.zip
Please provide some feedback...
Hope this helps.
Best Regards,
Gilles
Hello,
For those who are interested in 3D acceleration when running Knoppix 7.0 as a Vmware guest
since Linux guest graphics are currently very badly supported by Vmware (they are working on it):
as an example, a compile (as the Linux kernel) can take up to twice the time in a single cpu config
depending on the Linux console window size as half of the cpu time is used for the window scrolling !
So I played with the 3D acceleration of the Knoopix 7.0 guest in the beta VmWare Workstation
and I got it working more or less after adding few very new packages: mesa, vmwgfx, ...
This is obviously an experimental preview and is not recommended for normal use.
Please find below as info the script I used. Hope this helps.
Best Regards,
Gilles
#! /bin/sh (to be used as root)
# Inspired from: http://www.mesa3d.org/vmware-guest.html
apt-get update
apt-get -y -t experimental --reinstall install git-core xutils-dev
apt-get -y -t experimental --reinstall install automake libtool libpthread-stubs0-dev
apt-get -y -t experimental --reinstall install xserver-xorg-dev x11proto-xinerama-dev
apt-get -y -t experimental --reinstall install libgl1-mesa-dri libxcb-glx0-dev
git clone git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/xorg/driver/xf86-video-vmware
pushd xf86-video-vmware
make clean
./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr #--libdir=/usr/lib64
make -j4
make install
popd
rm -f /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/vmwgfx.ko*
git clone git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/mesa/vmwgfx
pushd vmwgfx
make clean
make -j4
make install
busybox cp -f 00-vmwgfx.rules /etc/udev/rules.d
depmod -a -ae
depmod -a #-ae
popd
rmmod vmw_balloon
rmmod vmwgfx
modprobe vmwgfx
dmesg | grep vmwgfx
glxinfo | grep Open | grep VM
glxinfo | grep Open | grep Mesa
echo Please type "init 5" to restart X
init 3
Hello,
Please find below the links to the improved minirt init boot for Knoppix 7.0.2
(please do not just left click but use the "save as" right click option to save it)
http://s94002264.onlinehome.us/grub/k702/minirt_702a.gz
It includes both the 32 and 64 bits Linux kernel modules and use them accordingly.
I could not get the vmware tools to work properly yet and I am still working on it.
Please provide some feedback...
Hope this helps.
Best Regards,
Gilles
johnrw wrote:Hi John,Quote:
When I looked into the menu.lst on sda1... so I could add the "home=scan"...
I found a parameter I don't understand: "data=ramdisk"
Sorry for the delay in my response, I did not notice your question until now... Good catch !
I have to admit that you are the first one to have noticed this and I am glad that you asked what it is used for.
The "data=ramdisk" linux kernel parameter is to setup the "after boot" data persistence into a separate ramdisk "/mnt/data"
which is different from the original ramdisk "/ramdisk" which now only contains the modified data from the boot process,
mainly resulting from the hardware auto-detection. The goal of this way to handle the data persistence is double:
First it allows to use a disk partition as a whole (instead of a file within a shared partition) allowing for much faster access
and bandwidth by using something like "data=sdb1". Just be aware that the data in that "sdb1" partition will be overwritten.
Then this is also an attempt to only have the persistence of the data that matters and keep the hardware specific data
out of it allowing for an easy migration of a customized setup (with valuable data persistence but not boot persistence)
to another hardware without loosing the great Knoppix hardware auto detection benefits. This is especially handy when
you have this setup on a USB dongle that you use to run on multiple and different hardware.
I hope that my explanations are clear enough for you to understand...
Best Regards,
Gilles
I successfully booted Knoppix 6.7 from its .iso image file in an usb flash drive, following guidelines from some thread somewhere in the forums of this website, using Grub as boot manager, with this entry in menu.lst:
title Knoppix 6.7
ls /KNOPPIX_V6.7.1CD-2011-09-14-EN.iso > nul || find --set-root --devices=hf /iso/KNOPPIX_V6.7.1CD-2011-09-14-EN.iso
map /KNOPPIX_V6.7.1CD-2011-09-14-EN.iso (0xff)
map --hook
root (0xff)
kernel /boot/isolinux/linux ramdisk_size=100000 init=/etc/init apm=power-off vga=791 nomce lang=es keyboard=es xkeyboard=es BOOT_IMAGE=knoppix bootfrom=/.//KNOPPIX_V6.7.1CD-2011-09-14-EN.iso noprompt
initrd /boot/isolinux/minirt.gz
boot
This also would work in order to boot the same .iso image file in a NTFS partition in the hard disk, using grub as boot manager. In fact, I use something alike to do it.
Hi russed,
Good idea, I use grub a lot like you to boot some small iso and where the speed is not an issue.
But if I remember this right, th cd/DVD emulation done by grub uses heavily the the bios for disk accesses
which is quite slow and may create problems on older systems with large disk sizes (especially if the iso
is located at the end of the disk) I am also not sure how the Linux kernel handle shared data (or can coexist)
with the grub/bios routines. For this reason I much prefer to rely only on the Linux kernel and only
use grub for the bootstrap. That being said, I am glad that this option works for you.
My two cents,
Gilles
Hello,
Please find below the link to a minimal virtual machine using the latest vmware tools 8.0.3
http://s94002264.onlinehome.us/grub/vmk702_703057.zip
Please provide some feedback...
Hope this helps.
Best Regards,
Gilles
Hello,
Please find below the link to a zip file which contains everything you need to
patch Knoppix 7.0.2 live at boot time and add the missing ntfs 3g support:
http://s94002264.onlinehome.us/grub/k702_ntfs_3g.zip (20MB)
This technique can also be used to live patch Knoppix with whatever other feature you may need.
I am using this method on a ntfs formatted bootable USB dongle (for Windows compatibility)
and it only requires a couple files to be located at the right place (matching the grub menu.lst)
Among them are the knoppix 7.0.2 iso file and the "ntfs" cloop patch. You can use bootlace.com
(which runs as both a dos and Linux executable) to make your media storage device bootable:
./bootlace.com --time-out=0 /dev/sda (be sure to use the proper boot device, here it is sda)
You also need to have grldr (grub binary) in the root of your boot device so it can be found
by the bootsector executable (installed by bootlace). The knoppix.sh script needs to be next to
(same folder as) the Knoppix iso and "ntfs" patch files. You need to use the slightly customized
minirt_702a.gz init ramdisk. The also included two Linux Kernels are unchanged from the 7.0.2 DVD.
Hope this helps. Please provide some feedback...
Best Regards,
Gilles
PS: Please find below the direct link to the ntfs patch file: (2.3MB)
http://s94002264.onlinehome.us/grub/k702/ntfs
I haven't looked into this minirt version, but it seems to work fine with 7.0.2 running in a virtual machine under Knoppix - using workstation 8.0.3. I did an ordinary flash install from the 7.0.2 ISO under vmware (formatting the virtual disk as FAT32), and mounted the disk and edited the minirt references in syslinux.cfg. With the ordinary minirt, it seemed like I could not get the image mounted, it continued to do the loading from the ISO image, and crashed when I removed that. For me, it is very useful to be able to carry the Poor Man's install over to VMs.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruymbeke
I'll report any problems I may run into, none so far, thank you Gilles for the useful work! :)
Hello Capricorny,Quote:
Originally Posted by Capricorny
FYI, I am booting Knoppix 7.02 from a USB dongle ntfs formatted (for Windows compatibility) using grub (grldr + menu.lst) and the Knoppix 7.02 ISO (+ Linux kernels and my custom initrd) and a custom VmWare Workstation cloop live patch in order to run a Windows virtual machine on various friends physical machines without having to worry about the hardware changes. (since the great Knoppix hardware auto-detection and the vmWare visualization are providing Windows with a complete hardware abstraction). So no need to travel with a computer anymore: I just need to carry my bootable USB dongle and find a computer I can borrow to run my complete personal environment including both my licensed programs and my private data such as emails, bookmarks ... No need to say that this not intrusive for the other computer since I am not using the local hdd at all (only my USB dongle).
BTW, did you try my Knoppix 7.2 virtual machine (with the VmWare tools already installed) ?
cf: http://knoppix.net/forum/threads/115...l=1#post126964
The tools add a lot of nice features and it was not that easy to get the tools to compile properly with the new Linux kernel... FYI, VmWare just released Workstation 8.04 and player 3.04 which is mainly a security fix and also have new guest tools.
Best Regards,
Gilles
1. USB installs: I'm doing something similar, and now I will try to expand on it, running a few virtual machines simultaneously, for a development environment - but the usual mode of use will be to copy from the USB to HD partitions and run from them. Still there is a enormous saving of setup/administration work this way. Using a USB3 mounted SSD drive looked promising for USB-only running.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruymbeke
2. I was not able to get your VM past kernel booting on Linux Knoppix 7.0.2 host, it didn't find the knoppix, and I don't know why. Any suggestions?
3. I will try out how it works running cloop Knoppix in a virtual machine for "real life" tasks. I will also try to compare efficiency of VMware and qemu-kvm. While qemu-kvm is about ideal for development and testing, I'm not sure it is good enough for ordinary use yet. But for the occasional task running, like creating USB Knoppix from ISO, it's quite fine IMHO.
4. I'll mention it here, too: It would be useful to have a Knoppix version of the debootstrap tool, to create minimal versions on the fly.
1)What I use on my USB(3) dongle also works on my main system, effectively providing a very easy to setup multi boot environment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Capricorny
2)Did you setup the virtual dvd to use your Knoppix 7.02 ISO image ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Capricorny
If not located in "c:\boot\k702\KNOPPIX_V7.0.2DVD-2012-05-30-EN.iso"
you may need to update the vm settings to match the location of your iso file.
Why create a vm ? ==> to have the VmWare Tools installed.
(because the official Knoppix iso does not include them and I like the hgfs
folder sharing and the cut/paste between the host and the guest vm)
4)I am not sure about the benefit (for me) of using the debootstrap tool as the setup I am using with Knoppix already allows me to boot Knoppix on a foreign system and only using a minimal amount of compressed files: official Knoppix iso, compressed cloops for my customizations such as VmWare Workstation, 3d acceleration, ARM cross compilation tools, ... and a partition or loop back file for my data persistence. It is very easy and fast to both install then use everyday...Quote:
Originally Posted by Capricorny
Best Regards,
Gilles
After I did, it works. Didn't realize it runs off the ISO image.. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ruymbeke
There are a few uses for such a knxbootstrap which may be hard to substitute, for example creating "pure" 64-bits versions, creating minimal installs, creating versions based on alternative sets of libraries.. But none of them may apply to you. For running Knopppix instances as servers, it is enough with minimal cloops (debootstrap results in ca 200MB uncompressed, and judging from latter CD versions, Knoppix wouldn't need that much more?). Maybe it could be considered as DSSL Damned Small Sustainable Linux? ;)Quote:
4)
I am not sure about the benefit (for me) of using the debootstrap tool as the setup I am using with Knoppix already allows me to boot Knoppix on a foreign system and only using a minimal amount of compressed files: official Knoppix iso, compressed cloops for my customizations such as VmWare Workstation, 3d acceleration, ARM cross compilation tools, ... and a partition or loop back file for my data persistence. It is very easy and fast to both install then use everyday...
I must admit, the Damn Small Sustainable Linux, as a Knoppix derivative, has quite a lot of appeal to me. One of the reasons is the ability for specialized installations: Right now, I need one VM running Oracle XE, one VM running JBoss and possibly one running a mailserver. I would like to keep them as small as possible, and the entire machines might have running from ramdisks as an option.
I have not been able to start from a plain remastered image (yet?), but flash-installing from ISO file in VMware and mounting+copying remastered image over afterwards worked fine, using the modified minirt. What is most useful for my needs, is that virtual 7.0.2, 3.3.7-64 kernel, seems to run with no problems under my 64-bits version of 6.4.4 - which reduces the needs for creating a new 64-bits version now a lot. One might not believe that running Knoppix under Knoppix should be efficient and/or useful, but for some needs, it's both :)
Hello,
Please find below the link to a zip file which contains everything you need to
patch Knoppix 7.0.2 live at boot time and add both ntfs 3g and 64 bits supports:
http://s94002264.onlinehome.us/grub/k702_ntfs_3g_64.zip (59MB)
The 64 patch provides both 64 bits run-ntime support and 64 bits compilation (gcc) support.
As mentioned previously you may need to adjust the menu.lst to match your needs
especially if the Knoppix 7.0.2 dvd iso and the patch files are not located on sda1 partition
(for a usb dongle as an example) but on sda2 (as for the c:\ drive of Windows Vista or 7)
The included "64l" (l for light) cloop file does not include the Debian installation packages
nor the updated Debian repositories list (created by apt-get update) to keep the patch small.
http://s94002264.onlinehome.us/grub/k702/64l (40MB)
If you like the full patch (including the Debian install packages and the repository lists)
please download the following "64" (without the l) cloop file (to be locates in the k702 folder)
and replace in the grub menu.lst the string "64l" by "64" (please do not rename the file).
http://s94002264.onlinehome.us/grub/k702/64 (110MB)
Hope this helps and please provide some feedback...
Best Regards,
Gilles
PS: The 64[l] cloop patch file only union with the Knoppix file system if a 64 bits kernel is detected.
The grub menu.lst detects if the machine is 64 bits capable and default the boot option accordingly.
The installation has been done following the instructions provided by Klaus (cf: /bin/_64 script):
http://knoppix.net/forum/threads/298...l=1#post126922
You can check the 64 bits setup using the command: "_64 check" from a Linux shell console.
The folder \opt\test64\pi_quick_start.tgz contains a pi benchmark (with the "gmp" high precision
math library) which can be used to test the 64 bits gcc compile and 64 bits run time execution.
Unpack the content, go in the unpacked folder and run ./start.sh
Hello,
Please find below a new version of the 64 bits package using the latest Debian repository changes
(with gcc 4.7.1) using the updated install method from Klaus2008 as described in here:
http://knoppix.net/forum/threads/298...l=1#post127085
http://s94002264.onlinehome.us/grub/k702_ntfs_3g_64b.zip (80MB)
You can download the new cloop patch files (light & full versions) below:
http://s94002264.onlinehome.us/grub/k702/64l (60MB)
http://s94002264.onlinehome.us/grub/k702/64 (150MB)
Hope this helps and please provide some feedback...
Best Regards,
Gilles
Hello,
Please find below the link to the improved minirt init boot for Knoppix 7.0.3:
(It includes both the 32 and 64 bits Linux kernel modules)
http://s94002264.onlinehome.us/grub/k703/minirt_703a.gz (10MB)
and the Knoppix 7.0.3 64 bits cloop patches:
http://s94002264.onlinehome.us/grub/k703/64l (light version: 69MB)
http://s94002264.onlinehome.us/grub/k703/64 (full version: 167MB)
and the link to a Knoppix 7.0.3 minimal virtual machine
(with the "VMware Workstation June Preview" tools installed):
http://s94002264.onlinehome.us/grub/vmk703_754035.zip (50MB)
(You still need the Knoppix 7.0.3 official CD or DVD iso image)
Please provide some feedback...
Hope this helps.
Best Regards,
Gilles
PS: please do not left click but use the "save as" right click option to save the content of these links.
Hello,
Please find below the latest minirt init boot for Knoppix 7.0.3 (32 & 64):
http://s94002264.onlinehome.us/grub/k703/minirt_703c.gz (10MB)
and the latest Knoppix 7.0.3 minimal virtual machine
http://s94002264.onlinehome.us/grub/vmk703_744019.zip (50MB)
Best Regards,
Gilles
Hello,
Please find below some updates to the minirt boot for Knoppix 6.7.1 (32 & 64):
http://s94002264.onlinehome.us/grub/k671/minirt_671d.gz (9.31MB)
and the latest Knoppix 6.7.1 minimal virtual machine
http://s94002264.onlinehome.us/grub/vmk671_744019.zip (48.1MB)
Best Regards,
Gilles
Hello,
Please find below the minirt boot for Knoppix 7.0.4 (32 & 64):
http://s94002264.onlinehome.us/grub/k704/minirt_704.gz (10.4MB)
and the Knoppix 7.0.4 minimal virtual machine with the latest tools (WS 9.0.0)
http://s94002264.onlinehome.us/grub/vmk704_802388.zip (43.7MB)
Best Regards,
Gilles
Hello,
Please find below the Knoppix 7.0.5 minirt for nfs, samba and iso boots (32 & 64):
http://s94002264.onlinehome.us/grub/k705/minirt_705.gz (10.5MB)
and the Knoppix 7.0.5 minimal virtual machine with the latest tools (WS 9.0.1):
http://s94002264.onlinehome.us/grub/vmk705_894247.zip (45.4MB)
Please provide some feedback. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year !
Gilles
PS: Edited to correct the links (for some reason this forum does not cut and paste links properly...)
Incorrect link ? it's point to minirt_k704.gz
downloaded manually copying http://s94002264.onlinehome.us/grub/k705/minirt_705.gz in a new empty browser tab. But archive format is not recognized!
Hello Blacksimon,
The archive is a gzipped cpio format and is typically used for Linux ramdisk boot images.
To read it's content you may try the following commands: gunzip minirt_705.gz; cpio -ivu --no-absolute-filenames < minirt_705
Thank you very much for your feedback and help in providing the correct link. It is now also updated in my original post.
For some reason the cut and paste of previous posts does not always work as expected, especially with links content.
Best Regards,
Gilles
Thank you, all works fine.
Hello,
I finally got the 3D support working with Knoppix 7.0.5 in a VMware virtual machine guest
and the VMWare tools. Please find below the link to the vm data zipped:
http://s94002264.onlinehome.us/grub/..._894247_3d.zip (149 MB)
It is actually quite nice to see a video playing on the compiz cube rotating smoothly and
live with the mouse without taking too much processing power when inside a VM guest.
Please provide some feedback. Happy New Year 2013 !
Gilles
PS: I used the following script to make it work:
http://s94002264.onlinehome.us/grub/...uild_3d.sh.txt
Just want to report that the 7.0.5 modified minirt works very well for me with an ISO remastering of Knoppix 7.0.5 and Workstation 8.0.5. (While the stock minirt.gz does not work.) I just threw the modified minirt into the boot/isolinux directory, made an alternative for booting with that in isolinux.cfg, and created the ISO. Started Workstation 8 on that, set up and formatted virtual disk as FAT32, and used the flash install. I'll write this up more completely in a separate thread.
Thanks again, Gilles!
Hi Capricorny,
Thank you very much for your feedback.
To get Knoppix to work as a VmWare guest I had to add some Linux Kernel modules in the minirt.
BTW, did you try the knoppix vm guest I posted in my previous post ? It uses the Knoppix iso as a base
so the vm data is practically the VmWare tools plus the 3D acceleration supports under VmWare 9.0.1
(nice to see the compiz cube within a vm guest). At boot time (grub menu) you will have two boot options:
one to boot with a ramdisk and the other with data persistence (in a separate virtual disk).
Just try it if you can and please let me know how it works for you.
Best Regards,
Gilles
Adding kernel modules: Interesting, hope I'll get to look at it some day - but I'm just happy to use your modifications.
I installed VMware tools the standard way, and because these VMs will be used mostly as servers, I don't know if I will take the time to try out your more comprehensive customization. But if some of them are to be run under Windows, I might try!
As for grub, maybe I should format the virtual disk as ext2/ext3, and install legacy grub to it? But for my present use, using isolinux boot is adequate for now. Using the flash-installer has got a lot of appeal to me..
And I must say, packing your minirt with the ISO, and using it from the first guest boot on, seems so simple and safe to me.
Hi Capricorny,
I use this setup on a win7 64 host (as a Linux server) and it is really easy to use, nothing to install: just download, unzip & play.
If needed the persistence allows me to add the config files and links to the services I need to run at boot time.
BTW, I do use ext4 for my virtual drives (not in the vm I did post but I could post it if you like)
as an ext4 has some clear benefits. But for this I had to create first a small ext3 boot partition
(before the large ext4) to hold grldr as the grub master boot record cannot find grldr in an ext4 partition.
I just found out recently about another master boot record "wee" which should be capable to load grldr from an ext4.
It has a "lba only" limitation (will not work on old machines) but should be ok in a vm. (I did not try it yet though...)
BTW, I also created a simple setup to boot Knoppix as a host from the iso located within a win7 ntfs partition and
add/patch at boot time (using the unionfs) a cloop containing the VmWare Workstation application in such a way
that I can use Knoppix as a host (from an external hdd or a usb dongle) on someone else computer to run vmware
and from there have various guests (such as Win 7) without touching the host computer data. Great to travel light...
Cheers,
Gilles
PS: I may have removed the persistence option in the grub config file, but I could post an update if you like to try it.
I just wonder: Is there any special advantage of using grub for booting virtual machines, except,possibly, for underlying file system? Only the syslinux + kernel&initrd must be on the FAT32 part, right?
I also wonder if I could trick vmware into doing something similar to qemu-kvm? There, I simply boot legacy grub on the host boot partition, and select an ordinary Knoppix copy on some unmounted partition to run in the VM.
As for your ISO + persistent method, why do you use the ISO - this can be easily accomplished with only the stick too, right? With a 32 GB stick, I can have both full Knoppix, a well-endowed Windows VM + some room to spare.
Your vm is made under Workstation 9.X. Having 8.0.5 working so well, I thought I'd forgo the 9.1, but having looked more closely into it, there seem to be quite a few improvements, in addition to the obvious Windows 8 adaptation. Any problems with 9.X?
Hi Capricorny,
I like like grub for a couple of reasons: first of all it has an interactive mode where the command line
can be modified which is really useful for debugging and when some configurations have changed.
No need to boot the system in order to edit the configuration file and then reboot to verify the update.
Then the exact same binary and configuration files (including a tree of sub-menus for multi-boots)
can be used for local device boot and network (pxe) boot. Or in other words I use the exact same
setup whatever running inside a vm or as a host setup which is really handy. Finally it is really simple
to install (as the mbr code is capable to find the stage2 grldr code from all the scanned partitions)
and has a ton of scripting and hacking capabilities, cf: http://www.rmprepusb.com/tutorials/grub4dos
I like to keep the original compressed and unmodifed knoppix iso file and have all the desired customizations and
persistence clearly separated in order to keep them small and have multiple variants of them on the same media
(as some of them may be incompatible with each other). BTW I keep my USB stick formatted with NTFS so it
can also be used as is on Windows system and since I only have a few files for the NTFS file system they are easy
to copy, update and be checked for integrity. Finally if I have any kind of corruption on the persistence, I can still boot
in Ramdisk mode to empty or erase the persistence and after reboot I still have all my extra functions and features
as they are in cloop outside of the iso file and are also separated from the data persistence.
The two vm: vmk705_894247.zip and vmk705_894247_3d.zip are using the Worstation 8.0 hardware compatibility
but have the Workstation 9.0.1 tools installed so they can be used with either versions of Workstation (8 or 9)
as as far as I know the tools are backward compatibles. The only problem I have found so far is the video recording
which is broken in version 9. I already filed a bug report with VMware but it did not get fixed from 9.0 to 9.1.
BTW, did you try yet the 3d support within the guest ?
Best Regards,
Gilles
Thanks a lot for the tips and the link - time for learning this now, I guess. But when I go into bootloading, I would like to view things in the UEFI context. Seems like they consider that too.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruymbeke
There is no reason you have to start with the unmodified Knoppix file, is it? You could have used a remastered version? And the technique here is separate overlays (like KNOPPIX1a, KNOPPIX1b etc) for different uses? What is the trick of selecting between overlays?Quote:
I like to keep the original compressed and unmodifed knoppix iso file and have all the desired customizations and
persistence clearly separated in order to keep them small and have multiple variants of them on the same media
(as some of them may be incompatible with each other). BTW I keep my USB stick formatted with NTFS so it
can also be used as is on Windows system and since I only have a few files for the NTFS file system they are easy
to copy, update and be checked for integrity. Finally if I have any kind of corruption on the persistence, I can still boot
in Ramdisk mode to empty or erase the persistence and after reboot I still have all my extra functions and features
as they are in cloop outside of the iso file and are also separated from the data persistence.
Think I'll try 9.1, then. Haven't looked at the 3d support - I tend to minimize graphics features for my needs, which tend to be more cpu-intensive.Quote:
The two vm: vmk705_894247.zip and vmk705_894247_3d.zip are using the Worstation 8.0 hardware compatibility
but have the Workstation 9.0.1 tools installed so they can be used with either versions of Workstation (8 or 9)
as as far as I know the tools are backward compatibles. The only problem I have found so far is the video recording
which is broken in version 9. I already filed a bug report with VMware but it did not get fixed from 9.0 to 9.1.
BTW, did you try yet the 3d support within the guest ?
Best Regards,
Gilles
Hi Capricorny,
Yes but remastering the DVD takes a lot of storage space and takes a long time to create (since there are a lot of files and data to compress) so why do it over and over again with mostly the same data in it for each customization ? I much prefer work only on the deltas which are usually quite smaller (as the vmware tools) are faster to create and are not requiring much resources. It is also nice to select and use the deltas as required: as an example I have the same config for booting Knoppix via pxe whatever it is inside a vm guest (where I need the Vmware tools) or as a host where I use a cloop overlay with the VMware Workstation application this time in such a way that I can run multiple guests within my pxe booted Knoppix host. Finally having my customization stored outside of the Knoppix iso allows me to have an overall much smaller amount of data than having multiple big 5GB isos for each one of the customization. As a side effect it also takes much less room on my USB dongles, SSDs and other expensive media and is also much faster to copy, update or check for data integrity, ...Quote:
There is no reason you have to start with the unmodified Knoppix file, is it? You could have used a remastered version?
You can guess now why I like grub: I can edit the command line at boot time to add or remove cloops in order to add, reduce or change functionalities as desired. cf the kernel boot parameter: "cloop=vmt894247,3dd" These are two cloop overlays outside of the original Knoppix iso file which are adding the vmware tools and the 3d guest rendering functionalities at boot time. So as an example if you do not care for the 3d rendering you can just remove the ",3dd" parameter. I hope this will help. Best Regards,Quote:
And the technique here is separate overlays (like KNOPPIX1a, KNOPPIX1b etc) for different uses? What is the trick of selecting between overlays?
Gilles
Hello,
Please find below the latest Knoppix 7.0.5 VMware 9.0.2 virtual machine guest
with optional data persistence and 3D support. Please find below the link to the vm zipped:
http://s94002264.onlinehome.us/grub/...1031769_3d.zip (with 3D support 144MB)
http://s94002264.onlinehome.us/grub/vmk705_1031769.zip (without 3D support 46MB)
Please provide some feedback.
Best Regards,
Gilles
PS: I used the following script to get the Knoppix 7.0.5 guest 3D support to work:
http://s94002264.onlinehome.us/grub/...uild_3d.sh.txt
Please find below a link to the 3D cloop file used in the above vm:
http://s94002264.onlinehome.us/grub/k705/3dd
and another link to the VMware 9.0.2 tools cloop file also used in the above vm:
http://s94002264.onlinehome.us/grub/k705/vmt1031769
Hello,
Please find below the latest Knoppix CeBIT 7.1.0 minirt for nfs, samba and iso boots (32 & 64):
http://s94002264.onlinehome.us/grub/k710/minirt_710.gz (10.6MB)
and the latest VMware 9.0.2 virtual machine guest zipped with optional data persistence and 3D:
http://s94002264.onlinehome.us/grub/...1031769_3d.zip (with 3D support 150MB)
http://s94002264.onlinehome.us/grub/vmk710_1031769.zip (without 3D support 46.1MB)
Please provide some feedback.
Best Regards,
Gilles
PS: I used the following script to get the Knoppix 7.1.0 guest 3D support to work:
http://s94002264.onlinehome.us/grub/...uild_3d.sh.txt
Please find below a link to the 3D cloop file used in the above vm:
http://s94002264.onlinehome.us/grub/k710/3dd
and another link to the VMware 9.0.2 tools cloop file also used in the above vm:
http://s94002264.onlinehome.us/grub/k710/vmt1031769
Hi Ruymbeke,
it's correct that inside minirt_710.gz have you posted, the welcome message in init script file is still knoppix 7.0 and not knoppix 7.1 as I would expect?
Thank you