Now what have I done? Lost KDE panel (sort of)

OK

I got rid of the offrending packages and after much apt-get -s testing (and using Stephens apt sources) I went ahead and (cringe) apt-get upgradeed.

So far so good, a couple of issues and questions.

The machine now boots to a debian gui login, not command line, I guess it starts xdm from init.rc.?

KDE is not installed, in fact most of the programs have r c flags when dpkg -l is run.

If I want kde should I apt-get all of it or just the parts I want. Just trying to avoid unseen pitfalls.

Thanks.

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Originally Posted by rusty

OK

The machine now boots to a debian gui login, not command line, I guess it starts xdm from init.rc.?

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/etc/rc[2-5].d/S99xdm if you have not changed it which one gets used depends on the /etc/inittab settings for the default runlevel.

Quote:

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KDE is not installed, in fact most of the programs have r c flags when dpkg -l is run.

If I want kde should I apt-get all of it or just the parts I want. Just trying to avoid unseen pitfalls.

Thanks.

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Getting the parts works fine for me never have used the KDE meta package to get everything and from the looks of it the package has not been made for the 3.2.1 branch if that is what you want to use so it is individual packages there.

Code:

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>$ apt-cache policy kde
kde:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 4:3.1.2
  Version Table:
    4:3.1.2 0
        990 http://ftp2.de.debian.org testing/main Packages
        600 http://ftp2.de.debian.org unstable/main Packages
    4:2.2.25 0
        500 http://ftp2.de.debian.org stable/main Packages

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Hmm thought I would start out with something simple

Code:

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root@toybox:~# apt-get -st unstable install konsole
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  kdelibs-bin kdelibs-data kdelibs4
Suggested packages:
  khelpcenter
Recommended packages:
  xfonts-konsole
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  kdelibs-bin kdelibs-data kdelibs4 konsole
0 upgraded, 4 newly installed, 0 to remove and 224 not upgraded.
Inst kdelibs-data (4:3.2.1-1 Debian:unstable)
Inst kdelibs4 (4:3.2.1-1 Debian:unstable) []
Inst kdelibs-bin (4:3.2.1-1 Debian:unstable)
Inst konsole (4:3.2.1-1 Debian:unstable)
Conf kdelibs-data (4:3.2.1-1 Debian:unstable)
Conf kdelibs-bin (4:3.2.1-1 Debian:unstable)
Conf kdelibs4 (4:3.2.1-1 Debian:unstable)
Conf konsole (4:3.2.1-1 Debian:unstable)

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Should install ok, right?

Code:

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root@toybox:~# apt-get -t unstable install konsole
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  kdelibs-bin kdelibs-data kdelibs4
Suggested packages:
  khelpcenter
Recommended packages:
  xfonts-konsole
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  kdelibs-bin kdelibs-data kdelibs4 konsole
0 upgraded, 4 newly installed, 0 to remove and 224 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/15.2MB of archives.
After unpacking 47.6MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
(Reading database ... 89838 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking kdelibs-data (from .../kdelibs-data_4%3a3.2.1-1_all.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.2.1-1_all.deb (--unpack):
 trying to overwrite `/usr/share/mimelnk/application/vnd.sun.xml.calc.desktop', which is also in package openoffice-de-en
dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
Selecting previously deselected package kdelibs4.
Unpacking kdelibs4 (from .../kdelibs4_4%3a3.2.1-1_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package kdelibs-bin.
Unpacking kdelibs-bin (from .../kdelibs-bin_4%3a3.2.1-1_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package konsole.
Unpacking konsole (from .../konsole_4%3a3.2.1-1_i386.deb) ...
Errors were encountered while processing:
 /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.2.1-1_all.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

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Thought I might try gnome but:

Code:

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root@toybox:~# apt-get -st unstable install gnome
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  gnome: Depends: gnome-desktop-environment (= 48) but it is not going to be installed
        Depends: gnome-office (= 48) but it is not going to be installed
        Depends: evolution but it is not going to be installed or
                  balsa but it is not going to be installed
        Depends: gnome-themes-extras but it is not going to be installed
        Depends: netspeed but it is not going to be installed
        Depends: rhythmbox but it is not going to be installed
        Depends: synaptic or
                  gnome-apt but it is not going to be installed
        Depends: xscreensaver but it is not going to be installed
  kdelibs4: Depends: kdelibs-data (>= 4:3.2.1) but it is not going to be installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).

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I've since dpkg -r the kde stuff . What am I missing here?

Quote:

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Originally Posted by rusty

Have a look



In think I need to reenter the right ftp sites in sources.list, perhaps copying from a knoppix cd. Or am I on the right track

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you should use netselect-apt. This app. gets the nearest/fastest debian mirror for downloading with apt-get. It also generates the source.list with this choice.

talueguito
raul

Quote:

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Originally Posted by rusty

Hmm thought I would start out with something simple

Code:

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root@toybox:~# apt-get -st unstable install konsole
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  kdelibs-bin kdelibs-data kdelibs4
Suggested packages:
  khelpcenter
Recommended packages:
  xfonts-konsole
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  kdelibs-bin kdelibs-data kdelibs4 konsole
0 upgraded, 4 newly installed, 0 to remove and 224 not upgraded.
Inst kdelibs-data (4:3.2.1-1 Debian:unstable)
Inst kdelibs4 (4:3.2.1-1 Debian:unstable) []
Inst kdelibs-bin (4:3.2.1-1 Debian:unstable)
Inst konsole (4:3.2.1-1 Debian:unstable)
Conf kdelibs-data (4:3.2.1-1 Debian:unstable)
Conf kdelibs-bin (4:3.2.1-1 Debian:unstable)
Conf kdelibs4 (4:3.2.1-1 Debian:unstable)
Conf konsole (4:3.2.1-1 Debian:unstable)

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Should install ok, right?

Code:

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root@toybox:~# apt-get -t unstable install konsole
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  kdelibs-bin kdelibs-data kdelibs4
Suggested packages:
  khelpcenter
Recommended packages:
  xfonts-konsole
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  kdelibs-bin kdelibs-data kdelibs4 konsole
0 upgraded, 4 newly installed, 0 to remove and 224 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/15.2MB of archives.
After unpacking 47.6MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
(Reading database ... 89838 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking kdelibs-data (from .../kdelibs-data_4%3a3.2.1-1_all.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.2.1-1_all.deb (--unpack):
 trying to overwrite `/usr/share/mimelnk/application/vnd.sun.xml.calc.desktop', which is also in package openoffice-de-en
dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
Selecting previously deselected package kdelibs4.
Unpacking kdelibs4 (from .../kdelibs4_4%3a3.2.1-1_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package kdelibs-bin.
Unpacking kdelibs-bin (from .../kdelibs-bin_4%3a3.2.1-1_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package konsole.
Unpacking konsole (from .../konsole_4%3a3.2.1-1_i386.deb) ...
Errors were encountered while processing:
 /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.2.1-1_all.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

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I've since dpkg -r the kde stuff . What am I missing here?

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You need to dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.2.1-1_all.deb to force the overwrite of the offending package and then dpkg --configure -a to make sure that nothing got left unconfigured and you should definitely install the xfonts-konsole from unstable for the recommended packages and should also probably install khelpcenter in the suggested packages as well if you want the help files. For the gnome you should do something like this apt-get -s -t unstable install gnome gnome-desktop-environment if it complains about more packages then keep adding them on the line it should install eventually and on my system.

Code:

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HappyTux:/home/stephen# apt-get -s install gnome
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  abiword-common (2.0.1+cvs.2003.11.07-2.2)
  abiword-gnome (2.0.1+cvs.2003.11.07-2.2)
  acme (2.4.2-1)
  aspell-en (0.51-1-1)
  bug-buddy (2.4.2-1)
  dia-common (0.92.2-3)
  dia-gnome (0.92.2-3)
  docbook (4.2-3)
  docbook-dsssl (1.78-4)
  docbook-xml (4.2-12)
  docbook-xsl (1.64.1.0-4.2)
  eog (2.4.1-2)
  epiphany-browser (1.0.6-1)
  esound (0.2.29-1)
  evolution (1.4.5-3.2)
  fam (2.7.0-5)
  file-roller (2.4.4-1)
  gcalctool (4.3.46-2)
  gconf-editor (2.4.0-3)
  gdb (5.3-2)
  gedit (2.4.1-1)
  gksu (1.0.3-2)
  gnome-about (2.4.1-6)
  gnome-applets (2.4.0-4)
  gnome-control-center (2.4.0-4)
  gnome-core (47)
  gnome-desktop-data (2.4.1-6)
  gnome-desktop-environment (47)
  gnome-doc-tools (1.0-6.1)
  gnome-games (2.4.2-3)
  gnome-games-data (2.4.2-3)
  gnome-gv (2.4.1-1)
  gnome-icon-theme (1.1.3-1)
  gnome-media (2.4.1.1-3)
  gnome-office (47)
  gnome-panel (2.4.2-3)
  gnome-panel-data (2.4.2-3)
  gnome-session (2.4.2-1)
  gnome-system-monitor (2.4.0-1)
  gnome-terminal (2.4.2-7)
  gnome-themes (2.4.1-2)
  gnome-themes-common (2.4.1-2)
  gnome-themes-extras (0.6-1)
  gnome-utils (2.4.1-1)
  gnome2-user-guide (2.4.1-2)
  gnomemeeting (0.96.1-4)
  gnumeric (1.2.6-1)
  gpdf (0.112-1.1)
  gstreamer-audiofile (0.6.4-4)
  gstreamer-flac (0.6.4-4)
  gstreamer-gconf (0.6.4-4)
  gstreamer-gnomevfs (0.6.4-4)
  gstreamer-mad (0.6.4-4)
  gstreamer-misc (0.6.4-4)
  gstreamer-oss (0.6.4-4)
  gstreamer-plugin-apps (0.6.4-4)
  gstreamer-plugin-libs (0.6.4-4)
  gstreamer-tools (0.6.4-1)
  gstreamer-vorbis (0.6.4-4)
  gtk2-engines-crux (2.4.1-2)
  gtk2-engines-industrial (0.2.32-3)
  gtk2-engines-lighthouseblue (2.4.1-2)
  gtk2-engines-pixbuf (2.2.0-2)
  gtk2-engines-redmond95 (2.2.0-2)
  gtk2-engines-smooth (0.5.6-2)
  gtk2-engines-spherecrystal (0.7-7)
  gtk2-engines-thinice (2.4.1-2)
  gtkhtml3.0 (3.0.9-2.1)
  gucharmap (1.2.0-4)
  guile-1.6-libs (1.6.4-4)
  jade (1.2.1-38)
  libasn1-6-heimdal (0.6-8)
  libaspell15 (0.50.5-2)
  libbonobo-activation4 (2.4.0-4)
  libdc1394-9 (0.9.3-1)
  libeel2-2 (2.4.1-2)
  libeel2-data (2.4.1-2)
  libenchant1 (1.1.4+cvs.2004.02.14-1)
  libfribidi0 (0.10.4-1)
  libgal2.0-5 (1.99.10-2.3)
  libgal2.0-common (1.99.10-2.3)
  libgdkcardimage0 (2.4.2-3)
  libgksu0 (1.0.3-2)
  libgnome-desktop-2 (2.4.1-6)
  libgnome-pilot2 (2.0.10-3)
  libgnomeprint2.2-0 (2.4.2-3)
  libgnomeprint2.2-data (2.4.2-3)
  libgnomeprintui2.2-0 (2.4.2-1)
  libgnomeprintui2.2-common (2.4.2-1)
  libgnutls5 (0.8.8-2)
  libgsm1 (1.0.10-12)
  libgssapi1-heimdal (0.6-8)
  libgtkhtml3.0-2 (3.0.9-2.1)
  libgtksourceview-common (0.7.0-2)
  libgtksourceview1.0-0 (0.7.0-2)
  libgtop2 (2.0.8-7)
  libgucharmap3 (1.2.0-4)
  libguile-ltdl-1 (1.6.4-4)
  libid3tag0 (0.15.0b-3.1)
  libkrb-1-kerberos4kth (1.2.2-10)
  libkrb5-17-heimdal (0.6-8)
  liblinc1 (1.0.3-4)
  libmetacity0 (2.6.5-1)
  libmyspell3 (3.1-5)
  libnautilus2-2 (2.4.2-2)
  libnspr4 (1.5-3)
  libnss3 (1.5-3)
  libopencdk4 (0.4.2-3)
  libopenh323-1.11.7 (1.11.7-5)
  libpanel-applet2-0 (2.4.2-3)
  libpisock8 (0.11.8-9)
  libpisync0 (0.11.8-9)
  libpq3 (7.4.2-1)
  libpt-1.4.11 (1.4.11-3)
  libqthreads-12 (1.6.4-4)
  libroken16-kerberos4kth (1.2.2-10)
  librsvg2-common (2.5.0-2)
  libscrollkeeper0 (0.3.14-5)
  libsoup2.0-0 (1.99.26-1)
  libsp1 (1.3.4-1.2.1-38)
  libstartup-notification0 (0.5-4)
  libwnck-common (2.4.0.1-2)
  libwnck4 (2.4.0.1-2)
  libxslt1 (1.1.2-3)
  libzvt2.0-0 (2.0.1cvs20021009-4)
  metacity (2.6.5-1)
  mozilla-browser (1.5-3)
  mozilla-psm (1.5-3)
  nautilus (2.4.2-2)
  nautilus-cd-burner (0.6.1-2)
  nautilus-data (2.4.2-2)
  nautilus-media (0.3.3.1-4)
  netspeed (0.9.2-1)
  pkg-config (0.15.0-3)
  planner (0.11-5)
  portmap (5-2.2)
  rhythmbox (0.6.5-2)
  scrollkeeper (0.3.14-5)
  sgml-base (1.21)
  sgml-data (2.0.2)
  sodipodi (0.33-1)
  symlinks (1.2-4.1)
  synaptic (0.48.1-1)
  xml-core (0.07)
  xscreensaver (4.15-1)
  yelp (2.4.2-4)
  zenity (1.8-1)
Suggested packages:
  abiword-plugins (2.0.1+cvs.2003.11.07-2.2)
  abiword-plugins-gnome (2.0.1+cvs.2003.11.07-2.2)
  abiword-doc (2.0.1+cvs.2003.11.07-2.2)
  aspell-bin (0.50.5-2)
  psgml (1.3.1-8)
  sp (1.3.4-1.2.1-38)
  jadetex (3.13-1)
  docbook-dsssl-doc (1.78-1)
  apache (1.3.29.0.2-4)
  httpd ()
  docbook-doc (30d10-8)
  gnome-spell (1.0.4-2)
  lha (1.14i-2)
  acpid (1.0.3-2)
  xearth (1.1-10)
  esound-clients (0.2.29-1)
  gnome-audio (2.0.0-1)
  doc-base (0.7.18)
  gnome-help (1.4.0.6-5)
  gdm (2.4.1.7-1)
  gnome-system-tools (0.32.0-2)
  fortune-mod (9708-36)
  gnome-help-data (1.4.0.6-5)
  gmc (4.5.55-1.2woody2)
  xsu (0.2.3-1)
  calctool (4.3.46-2)
  gnumeric-doc (1.2.6-1)
  gnumeric-plugins-extra (1.2.6-1)
  gnumeric-python (1.0.8-1t1)
  gnumeric-gda (1.0.8-1t1)
  guppi-gnumeric ()
  gtk-engines-pixmap (0.12-8)
  gtk-engines-redmond95 (0.12-8)
  libopenh323-dev (1.11.7-5)
  jpilot (0.99.7-1)
  pilot-link (0.11.8-9)
  malsync (2.2.0-1)
  kpilot (3.1.5-1.1)
  gnome-pilot (2.0.10-3)
  postgresql-doc (7.4.2-1)
  postgresql-client (7.4.2-1)
  xprt-xprintorg (0.0.9.cvs20031220-1)
  mpg321 (0.2.10.3)
  medusa (0.5.1-4)
  nautilus-suggested (1.0.6-5)
  libgnome-dev (1.4.2-17)
  sgml-base-doc (1.15)
  perlsgml (19970918-11)
  doc-html-w3 (2003.03-1)
  opensp (1.5.1.0-2)
  libxml2-utils (2.6.7-1)
  osp ()
  libgnome2-perl (0.90-1)
  apt-watch (0.3.1-2)
  xdaliclock (2.20-1)
  xscreensaver-gl (4.15-1)
  fortune ()
  qcam (0.91-11.1)
  streamer (3.91)
Recommended packages:
  abiword (2.0.1+cvs.2003.11.07-2.2)
  abiword-help (2.0.1+cvs.2003.11.07-2.2)
  abiword-gtk (1.0.2+cvs.2002.06.05-1)
  xfonts-abi (2.0.1+cvs.2003.11.07-2.2)
  dia (0.92.2-3)
  dia-libs (0.92.2-5)
  gsfonts-x11 (0.17)
  lynx (2.8.5-1)
  www-browser ()
  mozilla-xft (1.5-3)
  gnome-pilot-conduits (2.0.10-2)
  sharutils (4.2.1-10)
  lzop (1.01-1)
  gnome-mag (0.10.2-1)
  gnopernicus (0.7.1-1)
  gok (0.6.0-2)
  gnome-accessibility-themes (2.4.1-2)
  gnucash (1.8.8-4)
  gtk-engines-industrial (0.2.32-3)
  gstreamer-plugins (0.6.4-4)
  gtk-smooth-themes (0.5.2-2)
  myspell-dictionary ()
  nautilus-gtkhtml (0.3.2-7)
  desktop-base (0.3.10)
  gnome-vfs-extras2 (0.99.11-2)
  xli (1.17.0-14)
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  abiword-common (2.0.1+cvs.2003.11.07-2.2)
  abiword-gnome (2.0.1+cvs.2003.11.07-2.2)
  acme (2.4.2-1)
  aspell-en (0.51-1-1)
  bug-buddy (2.4.2-1)
  dia-common (0.92.2-3)
  dia-gnome (0.92.2-3)
  docbook (4.2-3)
  docbook-dsssl (1.78-4)
  docbook-xml (4.2-12)
  docbook-xsl (1.64.1.0-4.2)
  eog (2.4.1-2)
  epiphany-browser (1.0.6-1)
  esound (0.2.29-1)
  evolution (1.4.5-3.2)
  fam (2.7.0-5)
  file-roller (2.4.4-1)
  gcalctool (4.3.46-2)
  gconf-editor (2.4.0-3)
  gdb (5.3-2)
  gedit (2.4.1-1)
  gksu (1.0.3-2)
  gnome (47)
  gnome-about (2.4.1-6)
  gnome-applets (2.4.0-4)
  gnome-control-center (2.4.0-4)
  gnome-core (47)
  gnome-desktop-data (2.4.1-6)
  gnome-desktop-environment (47)
  gnome-doc-tools (1.0-6.1)
  gnome-games (2.4.2-3)
  gnome-games-data (2.4.2-3)
  gnome-gv (2.4.1-1)
  gnome-icon-theme (1.1.3-1)
  gnome-media (2.4.1.1-3)
  gnome-office (47)
  gnome-panel (2.4.2-3)
  gnome-panel-data (2.4.2-3)
  gnome-session (2.4.2-1)
  gnome-system-monitor (2.4.0-1)
  gnome-terminal (2.4.2-7)
  gnome-themes (2.4.1-2)
  gnome-themes-common (2.4.1-2)
  gnome-themes-extras (0.6-1)
  gnome-utils (2.4.1-1)
  gnome2-user-guide (2.4.1-2)
  gnomemeeting (0.96.1-4)
  gnumeric (1.2.6-1)
  gpdf (0.112-1.1)
  gstreamer-audiofile (0.6.4-4)
  gstreamer-flac (0.6.4-4)
  gstreamer-gconf (0.6.4-4)
  gstreamer-gnomevfs (0.6.4-4)
  gstreamer-mad (0.6.4-4)
  gstreamer-misc (0.6.4-4)
  gstreamer-oss (0.6.4-4)
  gstreamer-plugin-apps (0.6.4-4)
  gstreamer-plugin-libs (0.6.4-4)
  gstreamer-tools (0.6.4-1)
  gstreamer-vorbis (0.6.4-4)
  gtk2-engines-crux (2.4.1-2)
  gtk2-engines-industrial (0.2.32-3)
  gtk2-engines-lighthouseblue (2.4.1-2)
  gtk2-engines-pixbuf (2.2.0-2)
  gtk2-engines-redmond95 (2.2.0-2)
  gtk2-engines-smooth (0.5.6-2)
  gtk2-engines-spherecrystal (0.7-7)
  gtk2-engines-thinice (2.4.1-2)
  gtkhtml3.0 (3.0.9-2.1)
  gucharmap (1.2.0-4)
  guile-1.6-libs (1.6.4-4)
  jade (1.2.1-38)
  libasn1-6-heimdal (0.6-8)
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  libgssapi1-heimdal (0.6-8)
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  libid3tag0 (0.15.0b-3.1)
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  libmyspell3 (3.1-5)
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  libnss3 (1.5-3)
  libopencdk4 (0.4.2-3)
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  libpanel-applet2-0 (2.4.2-3)
  libpisock8 (0.11.8-9)
  libpisync0 (0.11.8-9)
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  libstartup-notification0 (0.5-4)
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  libwnck4 (2.4.0.1-2)
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  mozilla-psm (1.5-3)
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  nautilus-cd-burner (0.6.1-2)
  nautilus-data (2.4.2-2)
  nautilus-media (0.3.3.1-4)
  netspeed (0.9.2-1)
  pkg-config (0.15.0-3)
  planner (0.11-5)
  portmap (5-2.2)
  rhythmbox (0.6.5-2)
  scrollkeeper (0.3.14-5)
  sgml-base (1.21)
  sgml-data (2.0.2)
  sodipodi (0.33-1)
  symlinks (1.2-4.1)
  synaptic (0.48.1-1)
  xml-core (0.07)
  xscreensaver (4.15-1)
  yelp (2.4.2-4)
  zenity (1.8-1)
0 upgraded, 148 newly installed, 0 to remove and 21 not upgraded.

[snip gnome installing ...]

Conf synaptic (0.48.1-1 Debian:testing)
Conf xscreensaver (4.15-1 Debian:testing)
Conf gnome (47 Debian:testing)

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So the version from testing will install.

Code:

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HappyTux:/home/stephen# apt-get -s install -t unstable gnome
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.

Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
that package should be filed.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  gnome: Depends: gnome-desktop-environment (= 48) but it is not going to be installed
E: Broken packages
HappyTux:/home/stephen# apt-get -s install -t unstable gnome gnome-desktop-environment
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  gnome-desktop-environment: Depends: gnome-games (>= 2.4.0) but it is not going to be installed
E: Broken packages
HappyTux:/home/stephen# apt-get -s install -t unstable gnome gnome-desktop-environment gnome-games
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  gnome-games: Depends: libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.6.0-2) but 1.4.1-1 is to be installed
              Depends: libbonobo2-0 (>= 2.6.0) but 2.4.3-1 is to be installed
              Depends: libgconf2-4 (>= 2.6.0) but 2.4.0.1-4 is to be installed
              Depends: libgdkcardimage0 but it is not going to be installed
              Depends: libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.4.0) but 2.2.3-1 is to be installed
              Depends: libgnome-keyring0 but it is not installable
              Depends: libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.4.0-2) but 2.2.4-3 is to be installed
              Depends: liborbit2 (>= 1:2.10.0) but 1:2.8.3-2 is to be installed
              Depends: libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.4.0) but 1.2.5-2.1 is to be installed
E: Broken packages
HappyTux:/home/stephen# apt-get -s install -t unstable gnome gnome-desktop-environment gnome-games libatk1.0-0 libbonobo2-0 libgconf2-4 libgdkcardimage0 libglib2.0-0 libgnome-keyring0 libgtk2.0-0 liborbit2 libpango1.0-0
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
libatk1.0-0 is already the newest version.
libbonobo2-0 is already the newest version.
libgconf2-4 is already the newest version.
libglib2.0-0 is already the newest version.
Package libgnome-keyring0 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source
E: Package libgnome-keyring0 has no installation candidate
HappyTux:/home/stephen#apt-get -s install -t unstable gnome gnome-desktop-environment gnome-games libatk1.0-0 libbonobo2-0 libgconf2-4 libgdkcardimage0 libglib2.0-0 libgtk2.0-0 liborbit2 libpango1.0-0
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
libatk1.0-0 is already the newest version.
libbonobo2-0 is already the newest version.
libgconf2-4 is already the newest version.
libglib2.0-0 is already the newest version.
libgtk2.0-0 is already the newest version.
liborbit2 is already the newest version.
libpango1.0-0 is already the newest version.
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  gnome-games: Depends: libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.6.0-2) but 1.4.1-1 is to be installed
              Depends: libbonobo2-0 (>= 2.6.0) but 2.4.3-1 is to be installed
              Depends: libgconf2-4 (>= 2.6.0) but 2.4.0.1-4 is to be installed
              Depends: libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.4.0) but 2.2.3-1 is to be installed
              Depends: libgnome-keyring0 but it is not installable
              Depends: libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.4.0-2) but 2.2.4-3 is to be installed
              Depends: liborbit2 (>= 1:2.10.0) but 1:2.8.3-2 is to be installed
              Depends: libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.4.0) but 1.2.5-2.1 is to be installed
  libgdkcardimage0: Depends: libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.6.0-2) but 1.4.1-1 is to be installed
                    Depends: libbonobo2-0 (>= 2.6.0) but 2.4.3-1 is to be installed
                    Depends: libgconf2-4 (>= 2.6.0) but 2.4.0.1-4 is to be installed
                    Depends: libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.4.0) but 2.2.3-1 is to be installed
                    Depends: libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.4.0-2) but 2.2.4-3 is to be installed
                    Depends: liborbit2 (>= 1:2.10.0) but 1:2.8.3-2 is to be installed
                    Depends: libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.4.0) but 1.2.5-2.1 is to be installed
E: Broken packages
HappyTux:/home/stephen# apt-cache policy libatk1.0-0
libatk1.0-0:
  Installed: 1.4.1-1
  Candidate: 1.4.1-1
  Version Table:
 *** 1.4.1-1 0
        990 http://ftp2.de.debian.org testing/main Packages
        600 http://ftp2.de.debian.org unstable/main Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
    1.0.1-2 0
        500 http://ftp2.de.debian.org stable/main Packages

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Here you see that gnome in unstable is broken and not able to be installed because there is no version libatk1.0-0 >= 1.6.0-2 available among others to install you would have to wait a couple of days and see if the packages have moved through the system to install properly.

The force overwrite did the tirick. Could the force overwrite option be used with the package_name to accomplish the same thing ? If I RTFM it seems you could, but in addition to the files that cause problems one could get rid of configuration files that are better off left alone (imagine CUPS). I guess the lessons learned is 1} Use thes-s option when apt-getting to check for dependency problems and 2} that doesn't always catch everything.

Anyway thanks again.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by rusty

The force overwrite did the tirick. Could the force overwrite option be used with the package_name to accomplish the same thing ?

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I believe you need the entire package name including the version number and path to the file.

Quote:

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If I RTFM it seems you could, but in addition to the files that cause problems one could get rid of configuration files that are better off left alone (imagine CUPS).

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Definitely not to be used any more than necessary that is for sure.

Quote:

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I guess the lessons learned is 1} Use thes-s option when apt-getting to check for dependency problems and 2} that doesn't always catch everything.

Anyway thanks again.

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1} Yes always use the -s first and actually take a minute to look at the output to see what it will do. 2} No having to force overwrite is a packaging bug not a dependency problem.

Well, sorry to keep beating on the thread but

When I apt-get -s -t unstable install gnome-desktop-environment the output lists a bunch of packages to be installed, with no apparent problems, however

When I run Synaptic and choose the package a number of conflicts ( is/won't be installed) are listed when I click the dependencies tab.

dselect also guides me to dependency issues for that package.

Same for kde. I'm inclined to just let apt-get do its thing but don't want to end up with more problems.

Given the number of views this thread has been given, I'm going to keep it alive in hopes it helps others too. Thanks again!!

For me, Synaptic is great to see what's available to install, but it's lacking when you actually try to install many packages. It will warn you about dependency problems that apt-get is able to easily overcome. If apt-get -s install doesn't indicate that it's going to remove anything important and shows everything being installed and configured I'd say you're safe with installing gnome, even if Synaptic gives you those dependency warnings.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by rusty

Well, sorry to keep beating on the thread but

When I apt-get -s -t unstable install gnome-desktop-environment the output lists a bunch of packages to be installed, with no apparent problems

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Good it should install then but you should make sure the extra packages are coming from unstable as well I think I never use Gnome so can not say for sure exactly what you need but if you are going for the latest version then you want the unstable ones.

Quote:

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When I run Synaptic and choose the package a number of conflicts ( is/won't be installed) are listed when I click the dependencies tab.

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Used it a few times it only seems to want to work like I want it with just one branch in the sources.list (eg. testing or unstable) if you give it too many choices like in knoppix it does not work as expected.

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dselect also guides me to dependency issues for that package.

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Tried to use it once and hated it.

Quote:

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Same for kde. I'm inclined to just let apt-get do its thing but don't want to end up with more problems.

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That seems to be the only one of the options that will allow you to do it so you may as well go for it. I would say if you are going to use dselect or synaptic confine the sources.list to either testing or most likely unstable and see what the result would be checking for conflicts.