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Download ran nicely and LINUX IN USE is operational.
Thanks for the torrential activity.
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At this moment, this is the end of the internet!
A woman has her say, but what's the last word?
Not me, it's :arrow: tboege's tracker...Quote:
Originally Posted by lilsirecho
I'm just sharing the love by mirroring the .torrent file (which was getting truncated D/L'in off the tracker)... 8)
Thank you very much, tboege!
(Seeding now.)
News from Distrowatch.com:
http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20050314#1Quote:
Knoppix 3.8 CeBIT edition available
Knoppix As has become a tradition at this time the year, the developers of Knoppix have put together a special edition of the popular live CD to give away during the CeBIT exhibition in Hannover, Germany. ZDNet, in its article entitled Linux a picture of health at CeBIT, described the events at the Knoppix booth on Friday: "Klaus Knopper attracted a packed crowd on Friday lunchtime when he demonstrated the latest version of his Linux distribution. So many people turned up to Knopper's event that there wasn't a spare seat to be had, and our correspondent on the ground reports that 'a mad rush broke out' when Knoppix 3.8 CDs were distributed." If you haven't been able to make it to CeBIT, don't despair - although Knoppix 3.8 has not been released publicly, it is still GPL software and some of the lucky attendees were happy to share it with the rest of us. Get the Knoppix 3.8 torrents from here or here.
Torrents:
http://www.boegenielsen.dk:6969/torr...3c28a7.torrent
http://stacktrace.org/index_html/200...on.iso.torrent
http://distrowatch.com/images/screen...-3.8-small.png
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And here two pics of Klaus presenting Knoppix 3.8 at CeBIT:
http://www.zdnet.co.uk/i/z/iti/gal/cebitingrid~19.jpg
http://www.zdnet.co.uk/i/z/iti/gal/cebitingrid~18.jpg
download it from winfuter.de
http://www.winfuture.de/downloadstar...4721,1349.html
I've put a Knoppix 3.8, modified so it will also run under Windows, in amongst my other torrents at http://home.btconnect.com/chrisandcarolyn/torrents/. It is set up for US English by default.
Looks like this if you 'autorun' it
http://home.btconnect.com/chrisandca...or-windows.png
Normal Knoppix if you boot it.
Since the (test) version 1.0.1 of the ipw2200 driver ist included with Knoppix 3.8 my Intel 2200BG mini-pci wireless adapter was auto-detected at boot. To establish a wireless connection using the tools provided by Knoppix was very easy.
After downloading the wpa_supplicant, I even got a WPA connection to my ap. Cool.
Powermanagement works flawlessly, wireless connections with no problems. Almost no reason to run Windows XP on my centrino laptop... if there wasn't... well... Warcraft III does not work on Linux, yet.
Oh -- 2 problems: my external firewire hd does not work and I could not unmount my usb stick (always busy).
Hello,
Could anyone may explain me how to configure unionfs in order to be able to save modifications (new programs etc) to the disk?
At the moment all modifications are installed in RAM and lost after reboot.
Wojtek.
BTW: How can I subscribe Debian-Knoppix mailing list and how can I access its past archives?
When you ask "to the disk", do you mean the CDR disk? The very nature of a CDR/CDROM disc implies that it is difficult (more like impossible) to write to the disc, especially if the disc is 695MB or 700MB. If it was possible to write another track or another session to a CDR, there would still be the issue of UnionFS mounting this data on top of the existsing UnionFS mount. In theory it sounds as if it can be done but as with many things, the devil is in the details/implementation.Quote:
Originally Posted by pnti
When you ask "to the disk", do you mean the hard disk? If so, then it should be much easier to create a place to store the data. The it would be up to the user to figure out how to UnionFS mount the stored data on top of the existsing UnionFS mount.
Please see my post in this thread here http://www.knoppix.net/forum/viewtop...?p=78447#78447. It details how Knoppix creates the UnionFS mounts on bootup.
I am interested to write installed programs to a hard disk. I understand that I have to remaster knx 3.8 in order to do it. So at the moment in fact it is not possible to save changes ... .
645 echo -n "${CRE}${BLUE}Creating unionfs and symlinks on ramdisk...${NORMAL}"
646 mkdir -p /UNIONFS
647 if test -n "$UNIONFS" && /bin/mount -t unionfs -o dirs=/ramdisk=rw:/KNOPPIX=ro /UNIONFS /UNIONFS; then
648 # We now have unionfs, copy some data from the initial ramdisk first
649 cp -a /etc/fstab /etc/auto.mnt /etc/filesystems /etc/mtab /UNIONFS/etc/
650 for i in bin boot dev etc sbin var lib opt root usr; do # Move directories to unionfs
651 if test -d /$i; then
652 mv /$i /$i.old && \
653 /KNOPPIX/lib/ld-linux.so.2 --library-path /KNOPPIX/lib /KNOPPIX/bin/ln -snf /UNIONFS/$i /$i && \
654 rm -rf /$i.old
655 else
656 ln -snf /UNIONFS/$i /$i
657 fi
658 done
659 for i in $(cd /UNIONFS; echo *);do # Create links for new stuff on /UNIONFS
660 test "$i" = "home" -o "$i" = "tmp" && continue
661 test -L "/$i" || test -d "/$i" || test -f "/$i" || ln -snf "/UNIONFS/$i" /$i
662 done
663 echo ""
664 echo "${GREEN}>> Read-only CD/DVD system successfully merged with read-write /ramdisk.${NORMAL}"
You are correct. Perhaps the Knoppix devel team wrote some script that will do it, but I haven't found it.Quote:
So at the moment in fact it is not possible to save changes ... .
Downloads at http://www.winfuture.de/news,19477.html will link to
ftp://3dnow.de/KNOPPIX_V3.8-2005-02-...IT_Edition.iso
http://ftp.linuxcenter.ru/iso/Knoppi...IT_Edition.iso
MD5-Prüfsumme: a5055a7eb262752ba099bfaa7f1012d9
When overloaded use
Bittorrent: http://www.boegenielsen.dk:6969/torr...3c28a7.torrent
Boot OK on SATA.
For hyperthreading SMP use (like all 2.6.x kernels): knoppix acpi=off
And for a US keyboard: knoppix lang=us acpi=off
The '=' is "Shift 0".
If your USB mouse is not recognized: disconnect and reconnect
I guess the Kantonix like menu system that Fabian mentioned didn't make it into the 3.8 CeBIT version. Too bad, it seems like it would save new users a lot of problems (particularly since newer versions of Knoppix are much more agressive on booting).
Kanotix 2005-1 ( with kernel 2.6.10-kanotix-8 ) uses apm poweroff in most settings and will like Knoppix 3.8 ( with kernel 2.6.11 and acpi=off ) only recognize 1 of 2 CPUs on Intel SMP PCs.
There's a good article by Kyle Rankin (author of Knoppix Hacks): "Knoppix 3.8 and UnionFS. Wow. Just Wow."
http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/6654
According to Rankin: "This also means that if you set up a persistent home directory, you can potentially back up all of these changes and restore them at boot. In fact, Knoppix 3.8 already has a modified persistent home script that does just this (although it's still a beta feature so expect to see bugs here and there). Knoppix can even detect when you have done this on a drive when it boots, and will let you choose what features to restore from this image (if any). If you let it time out, Knoppix does the safe thing and doesn't load any of the settings."
Thanks Chris, that's a great contribution. The torrent is very slow, though. I'm getting 1-10 kB/s; usually I get about 150 kB/s. So far I've downloaded 107 MB and uploaded 268 MB, with an estimated 32 hours to go.Quote:
Originally Posted by chris-uk
If anyone out there has successfully downloaded this iso, how about starting up your bittorrent client again for uploading so others can download it?
Info on configuring your router for faster bittorrent downloading and uploading is at http://p2p.weblogsinc.com/entry/0401842428674831/
the knoppix qemu got mentioned on slashdot so the forum go slashdotted :O
nice work though chris
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=0...10216&from=rss
so alot more seeds to come along im still getting 2kbs though :( and im uploading 29kbs :)
Here's another download link, which for the moment has good speed. M
ftp://ftp.wustl.edu/pub/linux/distri...IT_Edition.iso
I'm confused.
I am running Windows XP SP2.
I dl'd the Knoppix-for-Win CD from the many torrents.
I insert the CD, it chugs for a bit....and then nothing.
I try to execute the qemu-knoppix and qemu-win .bat files, and
they just close the CMD prompt.
What am I doing wrong??
Thanks,
ers
what are your specs? i tryed using knoppix qemu on a machine with 256mb and 400mhz and it was a no show. i tryed it on a machine with more then 1000mhz and a gig of ram and it worked but it was very slow for some things.
The qemu-knoppix 3.8 has been set to use to 1GB of your Windows system's RAM + swap file.
From the qemu-0.6.1-windows-2/qemu-knoppix.bat batch file, line 20:
That argument in bold is the amount of RAM (physical RAM and if necessary swap file) that it is going to use. In my opinion, it is set WAY too high. It should be set to something realistic such as 256MB or 384MB. You can either use a ISO editor/creator program & extract the qemu-knoppix-3.8's contents, edit the batch file, and recreate the ISO file. Or you can hexedit the ISO file & change '-m 1024' to '-m 256'.Quote:
start qemu.exe -L . -m 1024 -boot d -cdrom %BOOTDRIVE%/qemu-0.6.1-windows-2/bootcd.iso -hda %BOOTDRIVE% -hdachs 14070,16,63 -user-net -enable-audio -localtime
James
The setup chris-uk provides enough RAM for video purposes. (to allow un-compressed video or large compressed files to play in ram)
Perhaps that is the reason for such a large provision.
Ahhh, I see. This is an old 700MHz laptop with 256MB ,10GB HDD. :oops:
Can I copy the contents to the hard drive and edit and run from there?
Or do I have to do it from the CD?
Or, *shudder*, do I have to reboot my main box (AMD64 3000, 1GB, etc)to Windows XP,
which hasn't happened for many many months now?
All I want to do is see it in action :-)
Thanks again,
ers
what i found intresting with the qemu knoppix is that it used the ip 10.0.2.25 but my network range is in 192.168.*.* so im curious as to why it does that and how it works.
If you are familiar with VMWare, then qemu (or something else) makes a NAT (network address translation) for the guest OS's network connection.Quote:
Originally Posted by pureone
Could you please post this qemu-knoppix.bat batch file, I would prefer not to download the whole iso file again just for that. I can probably figure it out myself, but why re-invent the wheel ... Thanks, GillesQuote:
Originally Posted by UnderScore
The '1024M' was on the principle that it will be faster for Windows to write/read things from 'paging' disk, rather than re-read it from CD. You can set it as you wish.
You can just copy all the files off the CD to a directory, make your changes, and run them from disk; no problem. Or write them back to a new CD; that CD will 'autorun' but will not boot 'real'.
Information here http://www.ofset.org:8080/freeduc-doc/11 if you want to know what was done, how the script works, how to rebuild one so that it will boot 'real' as well as 'virtual', etc.
I've had success with WIndowsXP, failure with Windows95, failure with WIndowsME. I suspect it's something to do with the level of Windows that QEMU was built for; but I don't know. 'I have to upgrade to WIndowsXP so that I can run Linux' has got to be the lamest excuse ever, though :-)
This kernel was built with HZ=1000 . If someone is able to rebuild with HZ=100 (the kernel needs to go inside the 'bootcd.iso' file to be picked up by the virtual boot) it should run better; http://www.ofset.org:8080/freeduc-doc/11 tells you how to rebuild the bootcd.iso
If anyone wants the Knoppix 3.6.B DVD, also set up with QEMU so it will autorun under Windows, the torrent is being seeded at http://www.linuxtracker.org/ . It may take a while, but we'll get there :-)
It seems that Windows or QEMU doesn't like this for systems that don't have enough physical RAM. I only have 512MB on my Win2k box and the batch file would not work, QEMU would just start and quit right away. When I copied the batch file to my HD and changed -m 1024 to -m 256 and relaunched qemu-knoppix.bat, it worked fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by chris-ukl
On my P4 1.5GHz machine, it is running quite slow. Is this because I only gave QEMU 256MB to use, or just that my processor is too slow for this kind of emulation?
PS: Great idea though, thanks for adding it.
The real 'problem' is that Linux 2.6 kernels are set up to take 1000 timer-tick interrupts per second; and handling this in emulation takes a lot out of even a fast modern processor. If you try with a 2.4 kernel one ... there are some at http://home.btconnect.com/chrisandcarolyn/torrents/, I'm seeding the DVD at the moment which will work fine, or you could try 'Knoppix 3.7 for Windows' which is set up with the 2.4 kernel.
'Kanotix for Windows' works reasonably, too, despite a '2.6' kernel; possibly because it is built with 80586 opcodes, and fewer (but more complex) opcodes seems to mean faster emulation. And the OFSET Linuxes, with their lighter-weight window manager, are also good candidates. I'll seed them again when the DVD completes; looking like late tomorrow. Connect to any torrents you want and it will get done eventually, or look at http://www.ofset.org:8080/freeduc-doc/11 and learn how to assemble the piece-parts yourself. No source code required ! And you have a working example to check things against.
It should be possible to compile the kernel with HZ=100, and get good emulated performance for everything. Let me know if you manage it. You have to rebuild the 'bootcd.iso' to get it to use the changed kernel. I rather suspect 'high performance in emulation under Windows' is not uppermost on Linus' list of desired features :-)
Of course, you could always wait for next year's 6GHz machines which are rumoured to be needed to run Longhorn !
Hey, chris-ukl, is that your site? Because I tried to sign up with it, but it couldn't send me the E-mail, it keeps coming up with an error, any idea why this is happening? I really wanted that DVD. Thanks.
Where i can download knoppix offical 3.8 release or when exactly.
First off, thanks for this chris_uk.
I got it running on the machine at home. Slowed down, but expected that from reading here.
I am now trying to run this CD on a VMWare server (running many Windows and Linux OS').
So it'll be vmware, running windows xp, running knoppix. :-)
Mouse doesn't work :-( Scrolls immediately to each corner as I move it...hrmmm
ers
Not mine. Keep trying; there must be a way.
for VMware, maybe install the VMware tools? I though they had a mouse driver in there. I haven't gotten a chance to try it in VMware (at home) I have only been running it at work with the LiveCD otherwise I'd try it myself to let you know if I had the same problem and if the tools fixed it.
Could you please just E-mail me the torrent, that would make things much easier. I'll be sure to seed it for a while by the way. My address is Killerah [AT] gmail [DOT] com
Thanks.
hello all
here is the link to download the knoppix 3.8 Cebit-Edition:
http://www.winfuture.de/downloadstar...2431,1349.html
have a lot of fun.
greetings mario
knoppix should never be put on a site with pop ups!!!