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Alright, I just blew up my 3.2-based remaster. I still don't really have time right now to commit to a project like this, but I'll get on it when I can. I extracted a 3.3 base and started moving over some of my usual customizations. Will start gutting some of the packages to make more space....
sorry, did I miss something
why would some one want to make a linux look like a winxp
Yes you did miss something, read back a few posts and all will become clear.
If you are a linux pro, no need to go on about how linux is better than windows. We have all heard it before. It isn't that impressive. Actually it is quite boring now. So read back and you will understand.
Wouldn't this be an easier sollution:
http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=1499
;)
Actually no it wouldn't. What XPde is doing is creating the "full" environment with a run command, My computer, Network Neighborhood, with the "exact to the pixel" look and feel of Windows. It actually looks more like Win2k but will have the loona ? luna theme. So then freaks like me can move around and be at one with Linux under the hood and I can slowly learn about linux without the shock.
I don't want to have to continue arguing the whole Linux vs. Windows thing. I like Linux's philosophy, I like Windows' look and feel. I also like the software available for windows. I can do everything in widows and I never have a crash. Blue screens are for punks that don't know how to work Windows. I have yet to do anything productive with a Linux machine. What keeps me coming back is the philosophy and the hope that it will be more user friendly.
So, THAT's why you're called Hunkah! :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunkah
Actually it is short for Hunkah Crap. It is my interNIC.
so someone (g1powermac) did it.. :)
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/m...d.iso?download
Since this is first release there are still some issues with it:
01:44 < g1powermac> It will default to XPde version 0.4.2 but you can get xfce and xpde version 0.5 booted by typing "desktop=xfce" or "desktop=xpde5" as boot options
01:44 < g1powermac> Also, there is no root terminal "shortcut" yet in it (will be fixed since Gandalfar explained how to do it) so I have set it up like the minimod, where root password is "morphix"
01:45 < g1powermac> And, not all apps are in the start menu, just a selected few at this time
you can su into root, but you need to use "morphix" as a password
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I just see this thread, and being a fan of overclockix I want to ask to Arkaine what happens with the project to include XPde with overclockix?
i have dun it for both XPde version 0.4 and 0.5
i found it remarkable easy and got the most recent in with few problems
it boots nicely from CD
if any1 has somewhere i can place the iso then it will be good as i have nowhere 2 host it
Its called DebXPde and it is still in development but i can put the versions iso up for both xpde V0.4 and V0.5
DebXPde Development Team
You should try to use Bit Torrent. There are a lot of tutorials and you won't suffer of bandwidth shortage.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbkryan
On PHLAK available at http://www.phlak.org/ Just boot with the desktop=sneaky option. It has been there for around 4 months I want to say, but I can't say a time for certain
Well, I can't found the address? or is knopiixdotted?Quote:
Originally Posted by zentu
UMM... that is really agravating, the site seems to be down, I will have to see if I can contact the admins to see what is up, but I don't think that I have the addy anymore (I wrote it down to give them a thanks, but never got around to it. *so if you are reading Thanks.* Then I had to reinstall my system.) They sometimes go down when they are doing huge updates, like getting out a new version w/ new screenshots or the like, but I don't know.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcaycedo
That defies the point of switching to Linux/UNIX
That plan is shelved just now. If anyone wants to pay me, I will be happy to dust it off. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by mcaycedo
$eriously though- I just moved acro$$ the country and have a crappy job and no internet connection. I'm getting married in a few month$, $o right now I'm just in a bad po$ition and not able to do much work on Overclockix.
If someone will figure out how to rescript the 45xsession and also fabianX's restartX script, I know I could add XPDE to Overclockix without too much effort.
The major problem as I see it is I'd have to gut a pretty large package- maybe gnome- in order to fit XPDE.
Also, the latest overclockix is based on Cebit, so I'd like to start over with the official 3.4 or even 3.5 release if I was going to do something like that.
Hello i am Michael West and BARNIX/DebXPde Developer,
are distro is based on the latest version of knoppix 3.4 and does include XPde as the defualt booting environment, our XPde is 0.5 which a twist we have been given a special release which nobody else can download which has a start menu included caled 0.5.2, if anybody could supply a place for us to upload an iso image of BARNIX/DebXPDE 0.4 we would gladly upload it for people to download it.
Are Distrobution is a Networking Tools based Distro also but only a few networking tools are avaible from the start menu.
are forum is based at http://www.barnix-forum.cjb.net
are website is www.westnold-developments.uk.tt but is currently down as are host is having problems although this temporary.
if anybody is interested please send an email to gmwest5(at)hotmail.com
replace (at) with @.
The reason why implemented thhe XPde Environment is becuase we want to bring windows users over to using linux and we found this is the best way.
thanks,
hope somebody can help us.
Michael West
BARNIX/DebXPde Developer
Westnold Developments
Michael, I'd like to help you out. I'm quite interested in your project, as I also try to win over Windows users by simplifiying configuration tasks in my live CD's.
My servers have a pretty thick pipe and we usually can handle over 1000Gb per month. But every now and then we have to switch from direct downloads to bittorrent due to high demands. Lately this has not been a problem (only when distrowatch puts Overclockix on their frontpage).
thanks arkaine23,
i would be very grateful if you could help us, we would probably need space to have maybe three iso's up at a time one full release, one testing and maybe the previous full release, you servers certainly do have a good lot of bandwidht and i would let you switch my iso's over to a torrent if needed.
also i would host my site if possible as it sounds very reliable, as my last linux free host let me down, that is why are site isnt up at the moment.
well i hope to here from you soon arkaine23,
and i would appreciate any help
Michael West
BARNIX/DebXPde Developer
Westnold Developments
Michael, I also would be strongly interested in seeing the results of your effort; I gather from your other posts, and what little I could glean from your own forum that the goal is to make BARNIX/DebXPde resemble not only the appearance, but the behaviour of Windows XP as closely as possible.
I am rather new to KNOPPIX/Linux distributions in general, so I am unsure whether or not this particular request is feasible... but would it be possible to modify the structure so that user-added Windows executables and their respective INI/config files could simply be added to a subdirectory in the ISO, which would then behave similarly to "Program Files" on a true Win32 system? It seems the WINE config file could also be added to the root of this subdirectory, and perhaps also a modular config file to specify desktop/start menu/Quicklaunch shortcuts and their relative arrangement/structure.
For programs which reference registry entries on a Win32 system, perhaps it would even be possible to reference a mini-REG file from within such a subdirectory...?
Sincerely,
- M.
Edit: After a little more reading I found this post by probono explaining that one can retain klik-installed apps by burning the persistent home directory to disc. That may also be a solution to the situation I described above - I'm not sure. Would this require creating a klik recipe for each Win32 app one wished to include, and then installing via klik? Or is there a simpler way? Can one simply install a Win32 application to the persistent home? And how does one set the persistent home directory to be referenced from within the same ISO as the live distro (... assuming one might build the system for a DVD+/-R)? Please forgive what are essentially "newbie" questions; my curiosity outweighs my experience with Linux systems.
i am trying to understand what you are saying, are you saying that you wold want us to try to implement something in to the distro that not only looks like xp but also has windows apps or are you describing something else.
im sorry about are forum and are website, i mean are website is down at the moment, but we haven't had time to update on a lot of items as we have been busy creating the distro.
i cant remember everything we have in Barnix/DebXPde but i will try to give you as much info as possible -
Barnix / DebXPde 0.4 -
Based on Knoppix 3.4 (Latest Release)
XPde 0.5.2 (Version Only Published to us)
KDE 3.2.2
Debian OpenOffice.org 1.1.1-2 (i think)(it is newer and faster than the one on knoppix and is also completely in english)
Mozilla Firefox 0.8 - with Flash Plugin and will be adding Java Plugin.
we then have lots of brilliant networking tools i will list a few as there too many -
Ethereal
Nmap/FE
MacChanger
Ipcalc
ettercap
we will eventually make a more comprehensive list of what is in there and do some more documentation, i hope Arkaine23 can help us with the hosting as we would appreciate it, and then anybody who is interested could download it and then tellus there toughts.
Thanks,
Michael West
Barnix / DebXPde Developer
Westnold Developments
You have mail
hey Arkaine23 where have you sent my email then my email address is [email protected]
and i havent got any email
Perhaps its being spam blocked? I'm sending from an excite.com address. It sends fine (have sent you 3 messages).Quote:
Originally Posted by gmwest5
Arkaine23,
have received you email i will upload a iso as soon as i get a chance thanks for giving us the space.
Michael West
BARNIX/DebXPde Developer
Westnold Developments
Our Website is now backup, thanks to arkaine23,
http://www.westnold-developments.uk.tt
and hopefully we will have an ISO up on the Site within the next couple of days.
you can login into the forum from this page or goto http://www.barnix-forum.cjb.net
Michael West
BARNIX / DebXPde Developer
Westnold Developments
What I am requesting is a simple way to add true Win32 apps to the ISO, and maintain the WINE config file with those apps. The reason for this is simple; there are a number of small, specialized programs designed for a Win32 environment, for which I have found no satisfactory Linux-based replacement (i.e., Exact Audio Copy or VirtualDub), but which are known to run successfully under WINE.Quote:
Originally Posted by gmwest5
- M.
i can now see where you are coming from, but these sort of modifications would be maybe done on our distro once we have finished some other major items.
it does seem to be a good idea.
but our distro is still in Beta stages and will need a lot of work done to it b4 we start adding Win32 type applications + we would not add them if they didnt come under any type of free software licence
Each of those does come under a free software license, but I do not know whether or not it would be compatible with the licensing of KNOPPIX-based systems. (For example, Exact Audio Copy is "cardware," meaning the satisfied user mails an attractive postcard to the author of the program, by way of thanks.)Quote:
Originally Posted by gmwest5
That's why I would like to see a simple way for the end-user to add their own Win32/WINE programs, as a sort of modular extension to the system.
- M.
P.S.: Just stumbled on this: grow-knoppix seems to have the ability to add additional items to the ISO, but I do not yet know whether or not it is also able to handle Win32 applications and the WINE config...
ok well do let me know if it does work so then us at westnold developments can look more into it.
I will. It may be a week or so before I can verify this, though... my new DVD+/-R(W) drive just shipped, and I'm not sure how long it will be before it arrives.Quote:
Originally Posted by gmwest5
- M.
ok whenever i have got lots of other stuff to do anyway, for example currently me an the other two members of westnold developments are installing gentoo on to and UltraSPARC SunBlade 150 and will eventuall releasing UltraBARNIX which will be the UltraSPARC version of BARNIX.
Barnix 0.3.5 Download Link
http://www.overclockix.octeams.com/B...2004.iso<br />
Michael West
BARNIX / DebXPde Developer
Westnold Developments
Barnix 0.3.5 Download Link
http://<br /> http://www.overclocki...29-06-2004.iso
Michael West
BARNIX / DebXPde Developer
Westnold Developments
I read the first two pages and the last two pages, and thought, I should just post anyways...
I have found knoppix the easiest way to move to linux, Ihave been using windows since windows was windows and am a master, just not knowing there was a linux
go figure.
now I am here on knoppix 4 days and the past 2 months poking around other distros, I feel I have learned more here and will continue.
I believe knoppix provides the easiest transition from windows to linux, and what was this thing I was reading about , about being able to install some win32 programs, does this mean even games ;)
I did a random search on here for my name and came accross this thread. I had forgotten all about this. Tell me something, was this thread the inspiration behind Barnix? Just curious... 2 years... damn.