Why, they are donating lots of bandwidth, so why not give them a bit of advertising revenue? Plus, isn't it cool that even a site called _win_... hosts Knoppix? ;)
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Why, they are donating lots of bandwidth, so why not give them a bit of advertising revenue? Plus, isn't it cool that even a site called _win_... hosts Knoppix? ;)
Here's a screenshot of the Knoppix 3.6.B DVD for Windows that's being seeded at http://linuxtracker.org . You can pick '.torrent' files for all my isos from http://home.btconnect.com/chrisandcarolyn/torrents/
http://home.btconnect.com/chrisandca...mu-0-6-1-2.png[/url]
its good that there donating bandwidth and its cool that even a site with win in its domain is hosting it. but i do not take kindly to sites that use popups. one day its popups next day its browser exploits forceing dialers onto your computer. i dont mind sites using small adverts thats perfectly moral in my eyes, but popups is where i draw the lines. i wouldnt feel moral if i was to put popups in any of my sites.Quote:
Originally Posted by probono
Hmmm. A browser is supposed to be a user agent. Can you set yours to ignore popups ? Even better, make it render 'popups' as small moral adverts ? :-)
i can block most popups no problem.but people are getting past firefox nowadays.
just because i can filter out spam emails doesnt mean its ok for people to send them.
same goes for popups
Here is an interesting performance comparison of Knoppix 3.7 vs 3.8.
On a laptop with a Mobile Celeron 1.8GHz CPU running mprime (GIMPS distributed project, I am seeing a big performance difference.
I wonder if this is a change in the Linux kernel itself or in some Knoppix software such as power management?
Using Knoppix 3.8 I get 0.083 seconds per iteration.
Using Knoppix 3.7 with the 2.4 kernel I get 0.073 seconds per iteration, which is a huge difference.
If I use Knoppix 3.7 with the 2.6 kernel I get 0.080 seconds.
Any idea what might be causing this slowdown and how I might go about changing it? By defaul mprime runs with nice 19, but even if I change the priority back down to 0, the speed remains the same. I am not doing anything else on the laptop in either case.
A bit more info. Trying this out on a P4 3.0Ghz desktop machine, there is a much smaller difference between Knoppix using the 2.4 and 2.6 kernel. About 0.001 seconds per iteration difference, so I'm wondering if this has more to do with the power management/CPU throttling support in Knoppix 3.8? Any clues?
Can kpx 3.8 save files on NTFS? How can I turn it on?
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try the capture ntfs scrip from the knoppux menu. But be careful...Quote:
Originally Posted by moiz
I have a stupid question. Where is it in menu? I can't find it. In 3.7 it was in knoppix menu, but there isn't in 3.8.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruymbeke
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Captive-NTFS doesn't appear to be in the 3.8-2005-02-28-CeBIT_Edition of Knoppix. (Try a "locate captive" and or a "man captive-install-acquire" and you don't get far.)
I have three computers connected to a speedtouch ADSL-router. Two of the computers have identical networkcards, Accton EN1207D. When use the cebit 3.8 none of them can detect the network. 3.7 works perfect. My third computer has a 3com card and and no problem with networkdetection. Help
Hi-This won't address your issues with the CD but here is a page with great instructions on using QEmu with any knoppix iso. http://www.pcquest.com/content/hands.../105010305.aspQuote:
Originally Posted by erschand
Yours-tbobz
Someone couldn't run the thing because their CD drive was not found by the sequence at the beginning of the qemu*\*.bat file. If that's the problem, copy the CD (as files) to a directory, fix the bat file so it will find your CD player, burn it to a new CD, and try again.
Others have not had things working because 'qemu' could not get hold of 1GB of memory (real + paging space). If this might be the problem, either 'up' the paging space on your system, or change the '-m 1024' in the bat file to something lower and try again.
You can run the thing from disk; the CD is just for effect. Put the files in the right place and then a command like 'subst f: c:\knoppix-cd-files\' will (surprisingly) do the job.
The various 'bat' files are set to close windows when they terminate; if you edit them to take out any 'echo off' commands and 'exit' commands, and change the 'start qemu' to just 'qemu', then any error messages you get should be left on the screen. Post them here and people will try to crack the problem.
Failing that, you can always get the source for everything and start putting in 'printf' statements :-)
Captive NTFS won't work if you already have installed SP2 in your XP box. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by ruymbeke
--GN
<<apt-get update >>
<<apt-get -t unstable install kdelibs4 >>
Just out of curiosity. How big of an apt-get in megabytes are we talking about here?
sakiZ
How can I set the Knoppix language to english? I can't understand german (or dutch, or whatever the language is)..
Or should I download an english version of it?
Thanks
http://www.knoppix.net/forum/viewtop...?p=78752#78752Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkTheWiz
General question regarding Unionfs in Cebit v3.8.
What format is utilized in the Unionfs program material placed in ramdisc?
Will Unionfs perform correctly if the Knoppix CD is mounted TORAM?
What are the performance limits in KnoppixCD as regards the size of Unionfs downloads?
Can downloads be made from other distros?
Can the unionfs data be written to HDD directly through mount of HDD (especially in TORAM mode)?
Is there a tutorial which addresses how to use unionfs?
I answer your questions to the best of my ability but please note that I am learning about unionfs the same way everyone else is by experiementing & reading.
>What format is utilized in the Unionfs program material placed in ramdisc?
I gather this question is asking if the files are compressed like a cloop or squashfs. As far as I can tell, they are not compressed. You probably already know this, UnionFS is just the *logical* mounting of filesystems on top of another filesystem. UnionFS is special because it allows for fine grained transparency so that the system and use the filesystem on top but can still access the filesystem underneath.
>Will Unionfs perform correctly if the Knoppix CD is mounted TORAM?
I have no idea. I have 1 PC that has a 1GB of RAM & maybe I will try it tomorrow.
>What are the performance limits in KnoppixCD as regards the size of Unionfs downloads?
Again no idea. I figure someone can test this by simply downloading things like .tar.gz, .deb, mp3, jpg files until the ramspace fills up. What happens then? Is the system unable to open a new program without resorting to use swap space? I have no idea until I test it.
>Can downloads be made from other distros?
I do not understand this question. Please elaborate.
>Can the unionfs data be written to HDD directly through mount of HDD (especially in TORAM mode)?
Probably yes. But I guess that it would have to be done manually. As far as I can recall, the UnionFS mount takes a portion of the system's RAM and mounts it writeable on top of the knoppix CD's /. Thus /ramdisk holds changes to /. To store the changed filesystem, it should be as simple as mounting a usable HD partition & then cp or rsync /ramdisk to that partition.
> Is there a tutorial which addresses how to use unionfs?
To my knowledge, there is no simple tutorial or howto for unionfs + knoppix. Sources for info are Linux Journal article on UnionFS, the official UnionFS homepage at SUNY StonyBrook sunysb.edu, the Knoppix developer mailing list, the knoppix derived distro Helix had a working UnionFS implementation public about 2 weeks before Knoppix 3.8, and of course the here at these forums.
On a separate note, I have noticed that you have posted these questions (or similar ones) before, both here at the forums and also on Kyle Rakin's Knoppix 3.8 article. It is most likely that everyone else is just begining to learn about unionfs. If you have additional unionfs + knoppix questions still unanswered you should either contact Klaus Knopper or Fabian Franz (Knoppix devels) or perhaps contact the UnionFS researchers.
underscore;
Please accept my congrats for attempting to answer the queries I made.
I note that you have researched the same areas I have visited.
I have assumed the Unionfs material obtained by apt-get install would be uncompressed since that is the normal Debian system. perhaps the result can then be compressed?
In regards the use of Unionfs, I find two descriptions of the use: mount -t unionfs -o dir=/dir0ne:/dirtwo none /combined is one such...
The other which performs with Knoppix is:
su apt-get-update Edit: s/b apt-get update
su apt-get-install (pkg name) Edit s/b apt-get install (etc.
I assume I could run many pkgs with the above statement in root, as many as the ramdisc will accept plus the additional in swap space.
I would expect that the minirt.gz may have to be modified to accept GB sized pkgs list since it is limited in Knoppix CD to 800MB.
Thus if one used the CD burned to a DVD and suitably modified minirt.gz , a large Unionfs download seems possible.
Transferring the large GB sized Unionfs data to HDD would then give the data for compressing the result and generating a KNOPPIX/KNOPPIX file.
The downloading would have to be in stages in order to provide the ~9GB of programs uncompressed which translate to a 4.4GB full-capacity DVD disc.
The whole purpose here is to test the "split" .iso procedure outlined in Knoppix DVD forum which permits the DVD to be fully utilized by employing mapping technique for the KNOPPIX/KNOPPIX.iso and the standard isolinux .iso for the boot portion.
I have 3GB of ram and 2GB of swap to utilize so I would need a couple of loads into Unionfs to obtain the programs.
I have no experience with downloads from Debian and wouldn't know if a given program was included as valid for the 3.8Knoppix Cebit CD kernel 2.6.11.
Asking may get you knowwhere>>>>>>>>>
Could you give any reference?Quote:
Originally Posted by UnderScore
Is it possible to subscribe to Debian-Knoppix mailing list? I cannot find its web archives ...Quote:
Originally Posted by UnderScore
mount your hdd (let's say /mnt/sda1/ )Quote:
Can the unionfs data be written to HDD directly through mount of HDD
create some dir where you want to put the overlay (/mnt/sda1/union)
add the branch
make the ramdisk read-only to unionfsCode:unionctl /UNIONFS/ --add /mnt/sda1/union/
note:Code:unionctl /UNIONFS/ --mode /ramdisk ro
/home and /tmp are not mounted in the union, the still point diretly to the ramdisk
(for whatever reason - maybe someone can clear this up for me)
Knoppix 3.8. CeBIT edition Spanish customization here:
www.knoppix-es.org
some mirrors.
Regards
Victor Alonso
General results with UnionFS.
I downloaded ~100MB of applications via -apt-get as follows;
apt-get update
apt-get install (enlightenment,amarok,cinepaint,digikam,festival,g eomview,kweather)
Each app was installed separately.
My RAM at the time was 1GB. The system guard indicated around 719MB in use.
I then installed another 1GB of ram after shutdown.
I attempted to run the CD in toram mode. I received an error message stating that required ram was 2085169K and that I had only 2075112K of ram. It did not load toram. EDIT: This was caused by using a "split".iso DVD+RW disc which created a break in the TORAM loading scripts. The TORAM mode performs well in a normal Knoppix3.8 CD burn. I forgot I was using the "split" version....NEVER MIND!
I then installed 3GB of ram which enabled the loading toram. However, an error occurred in KDEinit which did not initiate the desktop. The error message stated that I was in need of 82MB of ram or some such. EDIT: Again, this occurred with the "split" format of Knoppix3.8.
The strange behavior in loading toram doesn't make much sense. EDIT: Now it does!!
Has anyone a clue to the reason for this? Bad ram? EDIT: Mebbe not!
Evidence provided by the exercises I described indicates the Unionfs might well download into Knoppix3.8CD boots up to 2+GB of apps with a 3GB ram system.
Many of the apps need be obtained from other than Debian sources.
EDIT: If one has many GB's of swap in addition, you can "choke" on the added apps!!!!!
It seems apparent that regardless of the ram size, Unionfs allows swap use.
Provide a big swap file and you get a big download capability.
Below is the isolinux.cfg with the correct changes to make the CD us language and us keyboard. Just replace the the file on the ISO image and joila.
DEFAULT linux
APPEND ramdisk_size=100000 init=/etc/init lang=us apm=power-off vga=791 initrd=minirt.gz nomce quiet BOOT_IMAGE=knoppix
TIMEOUT 300
PROMPT 1
DISPLAY boot.msg
F1 boot.msg
F2 f2
F3 f3
LABEL knoppix
KERNEL linux
APPEND ramdisk_size=100000 init=/etc/init lang=us apm=power-off vga=791 initrd=minirt.gz nomce quiet BOOT_IMAGE=knoppix
LABEL expert
KERNEL linux
APPEND ramdisk_size=100000 init=/etc/init lang=us apm=power-off vga=791 initrd=minirt.gz nomce BOOT_IMAGE=expert
LABEL memtest
KERNEL memtest
APPEND initrd=
LABEL knoppix-txt
KERNEL linux
APPEND ramdisk_size=100000 init=/etc/init lang=us apm=power-off vga=normal initrd=minirt.gz nomce quiet BOOT_IMAGE=knoppix
LABEL debug
KERNEL linux
APPEND ramdisk_size=100000 init=/etc/init lang=us apm=power-off vga=normal initrd=minirt.gz BOOT_IMAGE=knoppix
LABEL fb1280x1024
KERNEL linux
APPEND ramdisk_size=100000 init=/etc/init lang=us apm=power-off vga=794 xmodule=fbdev initrd=minirt.gz nomce quiet BOOT_IMAGE=knoppix
LABEL fb1024x768
KERNEL linux
APPEND ramdisk_size=100000 init=/etc/init lang=us apm=power-off vga=791 xmodule=fbdev initrd=minirt.gz nomce quiet BOOT_IMAGE=knoppix
LABEL fb800x600
KERNEL linux
APPEND ramdisk_size=100000 init=/etc/init lang=us apm=power-off vga=788 xmodule=fbdev initrd=minirt.gz nomce quiet BOOT_IMAGE=knoppix
LABEL failsafe
KERNEL linux
APPEND ramdisk_size=100000 init=/etc/init lang=us vga=normal atapicd nosound noapic noacpi acpi=off nofstab noscsi nodma noapm nousb nopcmcia nofirewire noagp nomce nodhcp xmodule=vesa initrd=minirt.gz BOOT_IMAGE=knoppix
LABEL userdef
KERNEL linux
APPEND ################################################## ################################################## ################################################## ################################################## ################################################## ################################################## ################################################## ################################################## ################################################## ################################################## ###########
Hello! Thank you for making the Win-bootable version of Knoppix 3.8! Do you have the MD5 sum for the Knoppix iso? When I downloaded from torrent, all there was was the ISO itself. This is directed at chris_uk who made the QEMU version, but anyone who has the MD5 (and is *sure* that it comes directly from the original) is welcome to post it. Thx.
The "unauthorized" torent people have unfortunately not been posting one. The good news is that Bittorrent itself does a lot of file checking of what it downloads, and it never tries to translate new lines to CR/LF pairs, so you are much more likely to have a good copy of the ISO when you download by Bittorent than when you get it from the mirrors. That said, I applaud your effort to check the md5 sum. I believe that I have the ISO that you are interested in. Since there was no md5 posted I have created one myself. Note that my CD works but that I don't have the tons of memory needed for the running under windows option, so I can not confirm that that part works. here's what I got when I calculated the MD5 sum:Quote:
Originally Posted by kwtm
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# MD5 checksums generated by MD5summer (http://www.md5summer.org)
# Generated 3/26/2005 12:16:43 PM
5ac0c37819e3eef508f9ac51357d7c40 *KNOPPIX_V3.8-2005-02-28-CeBIT_Edition-qemu-0.6.1-2.iso
There's some problem with the seed. I could only download 99.6% of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by chris-uk
Please advise...
Jason :cry:
Okey, I am new to all of this and im not sure what I should do. I did not read all of the forum but i have a question. I have downloaded the ISO image and burned it to cd and booted it and loaded everything. The only problem is everything is in a different language and i have no clue how to change it.
Josh :?: :idea: :?:
Romulis;
!the boot prompt, type lang=us.
Since the keyboard in German is laid out differently, you will find the = sign as ..shift 0 ...
The y is z on your keyboaard. ( You can search the keybd at boot to find the characters)
Boot is ...knoppix
Happy Easter
Happy Easter to you too, thanks alot
lol wrote to soon did not even try it to see if worked.... when i type it in it says "Could not find kernel Image: lang=us."
You must type the following .....knoppix lang=us......
Thank you, it did work :D and again have a Happy Easter
Another one for you lilsirecho if you dont mind. What is a "A65256 encryption password",pretty sure thats what it is called?...
My advice is to skip that encription...cancel it out.
It is not mandatory to have it and with a LiveCD it shouldn't be necessary....
lilsirecho,
I know it is not mandatory, but what does that encription do in this case.
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Also i wanted to know if there is a way to save the information from the program to my hard drive, I thought that is what that encription does.
Encription is not necessary to save your home and config. It prevents others from using your data by encripting it with the AES encription system.
I have never used encription and never will.
You would save everything you need to save with no encription and boot to persistent home without encripting.
I have no further comment.