Knoppix Version 3.4 Released

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05-05-2004, 05:32 PM
ruymbeke

md5 check/generate under dos/windows

http://www.etree.org/md5com.html
05-05-2004, 05:59 PM
kakakoka

I get :

ef6883b0bd74f70100dac1749344c46a *KNOPPIX_V3.4-2004-05-04-EN_badmd5sum/KNOPPIX-CHANGELOG.txt
8cdceb2e1522117e15ea80b9e63f36ae *KNOPPIX_V3.4-2004-05-04-EN_badmd5sum/knoppix-cheatcodes.txt
fb40d29d65ad955a3d4b259f32d16d65 *KNOPPIX_V3.4-2004-05-04-EN_badmd5sum/KNOPPIX_V3.4-2004-05-04-EN.iso
21edcc6d299855c18afa5ee6b7cb734c *KNOPPIX_V3.4-2004-05-04-EN_badmd5sum/KNOPPIX_V3.4-2004-05-04-EN.iso.md5
66fc767b0a0008b16aca58a542499963 *KNOPPIX_V3.4-2004-05-04-EN_badmd5sum/KNOPPIX_V3.4-2004-05-04-EN.iso.md5.asc
a51bce710ac5ae0ca258345b3d99789b *KNOPPIX_V3.4-2004-05-04-EN_badmd5sum/packages.txt

Should I re-download it from elsewhere? I got this one from tracker.tx.se. Could tx comment on this? Can anybody else recommend a different bt?
05-05-2004, 06:06 PM
eadz

kakakoka - what is in the file

KNOPPIX_V3.4-2004-05-04-EN_badmd5sum/KNOPPIX_V3.4-2004-05-04-EN.iso.md5 ?

What is in it should match the md5sum of
KNOPPIX_V3.4-2004-05-04-EN_badmd5sum/KNOPPIX_V3.4-2004-05-04-EN.iso

If not, then it's a bad download.
05-05-2004, 06:10 PM
kakakoka

In the .md5 file there is

49a62cdac7a3afcee0d2d47ea17daa6f *KNOPPIX_V3.4-2004-05-04-EN.iso

so I guess I got a bad download.

Can anyone suggest a bt location which will work better?
05-05-2004, 06:18 PM
eadz

Quote:

Originally Posted by kakakoka

In the .md5 file there is

49a62cdac7a3afcee0d2d47ea17daa6f *KNOPPIX_V3.4-2004-05-04-EN.iso

so I guess I got a bad download.

Can anyone suggest a bt location which will work better?

Is there something wrong with the official one? http://torrent.unix-ag.uni-kl.de:6969/
05-05-2004, 06:25 PM
kakakoka

I tried it an hour ago but it seemed dead (no download for 15 minutes or so).

Ill give it another shot.
05-05-2004, 07:02 PM
Sigmatador

i d/led the iso file with all server posted here, and i get the right md5sum.
05-05-2004, 07:14 PM
TimWhite

Second time lucky on the first mirror posted gave me the 49a md5sum (which is the one in the .md5). I guess the load the servers are under caused the corruption.
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TimW
05-05-2004, 08:02 PM
darrylo

You want the one with signature 8e9cd4d310ad8381d1ec3326c6ca

There are at least two versions of 3.4. The two signatures that I've seen appear to have been released by Klaus. However, I have no idea why both are identically labeled: "V3.4-2004-05-04".

One has the signature 49a62cdac7a3afcee0d2d47ea17daa6f. This version was signed:

Code:

gpg: Signature made Mon May 3 14:28:49 2004 PDT using RSA key ID BA8F038D gpg: Good signature from "Klaus Knopper <[email protected]>" gpg: aka "Klaus Knopper <[email protected]>"

Another version has the signature 8e9cd4d310ad8381d1ec3326c6caae2b. This version was signed:

Code:

gpg: Signature made Tue May 4 15:07:09 2004 PDT using RSA key ID BA8F038D gpg: Good signature from "Klaus Knopper <[email protected]>" gpg: aka "Klaus Knopper <[email protected]>"

So, it appears that the later one is probably the one that people want.
05-05-2004, 09:48 PM
zentu

If you have a problem, but are able to use the BT do it, since part of BT uses MD5sums, so you really don't need to check it. Still do though, it only takes a few minutes at most, and it verifies that the file is accurate.

P.s. if you DL it from a location not listed by knoppix, you should DL the md5sum from a verified server, or ask for it on the forums, that way you aren't DL something that is malware. I do this whenevery I am unsure about the source, and I want to save the main site some bandwith...

P.s. anyone else having problems with 2.6 and an Nforce2 chipset?
05-05-2004, 10:41 PM
ruymbeke

Re: You want the one with signature 8e9cd4d310ad8381d1ec3326

Quote:

Originally Posted by darrylo

There are at least two versions of 3.4. The two signatures that I've seen appear to have been released by Klaus. ...
So, it appears that the later one is probably the one that people want.

1) What is the difference ?
2) Where can I dowloand the latest ?
3) Any newer release availabale/planned ?

Thanks, Gilles
05-05-2004, 10:46 PM
TimWhite

Dunno about nForce, but I get a kernel panic trying to boot the 2.6 kernel on my Thinkpad 600.
05-05-2004, 11:44 PM
PsaltyDS

Re: You want the one with signature 8e9cd4d310ad8381d1ec3326

Quote:

Originally Posted by darrylo

There are at least two versions of 3.4. The two signatures that I've seen appear to have been released by Klaus. However, I have no idea why both are identically labeled: "V3.4-2004-05-04".

One has the signature 49a62cdac7a3afcee0d2d47ea17daa6f. This version was signed:

Code:

gpg: Signature made Mon May 3 14:28:49 2004 PDT using RSA key ID BA8F038D gpg: Good signature from "Klaus Knopper <[email protected]>" gpg: aka "Klaus Knopper <[email protected]>"

Another version has the signature 8e9cd4d310ad8381d1ec3326c6caae2b. This version was signed:

Code:

gpg: Signature made Tue May 4 15:07:09 2004 PDT using RSA key ID BA8F038D gpg: Good signature from "Klaus Knopper <[email protected]>" gpg: aka "Klaus Knopper <[email protected]>"

So, it appears that the later one is probably the one that people want.

I downloaded the "...aa6f" version myself. Should I be concerned and trying to fing the "...ae2b" version instead? This seems very odd. :?
05-06-2004, 01:42 AM
Neo-Rio

I'm having trouble getting Knoppix working flawlessly on my desktop.

Thing is, I have one of these new fangled ASUS motherboards which is currently has both a SCSI card and is using the built in SATA RAID (two drives).

Booting in with the 2.4 kernel is fine, except that while my system detects my Creative Audigy 2 card, there is NO SOUND.

Trying to boot in with the 2.6 kernel, first off the SCSI detection tries going for the megaraid.o, then has a segmentation fault and then crashes (Much like some of the others have complained of). Now, even when I issue "knoppix noscsi", it skips SCSI detection and goes for the RAID driver. However, when It gets to setting /etc/fstab.... the installer crahes.

I'm pretty sure the problem lies within the RAID on my mobo. In the Linux kernel, these ASUS mobos with RAID really don't get handled well, if at all, and especially if they are formatted for use under Windows.
Similarly, Fedora doesn't work on my system either thanks to the Sil driver. Alan Cox calls these things "winraid" and as such, Linux doesn't support them yet (if at all).
I just wish there was an option to skip detection of the sata RAID.
05-06-2004, 02:01 AM
Abehome

Re: You want the one with signature 8e9cd4d310ad8381d1ec3326

Quote:

Originally Posted by PsaltyDS

Quote:

Originally Posted by darrylo

There are at least two versions of 3.4. The two signatures that I've seen appear to have been released by Klaus. However, I have no idea why both are identically labeled: "V3.4-2004-05-04".

One has the signature 49a62cdac7a3afcee0d2d47ea17daa6f. This version was signed:

Code:

gpg: Signature made Mon May 3 14:28:49 2004 PDT using RSA key ID BA8F038D gpg: Good signature from "Klaus Knopper <[email protected]>" gpg: aka "Klaus Knopper <[email protected]>"

Another version has the signature 8e9cd4d310ad8381d1ec3326c6caae2b. This version was signed:

Code:

gpg: Signature made Tue May 4 15:07:09 2004 PDT using RSA key ID BA8F038D gpg: Good signature from "Klaus Knopper <[email protected]>" gpg: aka "Klaus Knopper <[email protected]>"

So, it appears that the later one is probably the one that people want.

I downloaded the "...aa6f" version myself. Should I be concerned and trying to fing the "...ae2b" version instead? This seems very odd. :?

I just downloaded the latest Knoppix version (...ae2b) from ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/knoppix/ which is a Knoppix mirror.
I have cable and was getting between 100-370KB/s using Konqi.
I think the mirrors are getting populated with this version.
05-06-2004, 02:41 AM
darrylo

Re: You want the one with signature 8e9cd4d310ad8381d1ec3326

Quote:

Originally Posted by PsaltyDS

Quote:

Originally Posted by darrylo

There are at least two versions of 3.4. The two signatures that I've seen appear to have been released by Klaus. However, I have no idea why both are identically labeled: "V3.4-2004-05-04".

One has the signature 49a62cdac7a3afcee0d2d47ea17daa6f. This version was signed:

Code:

gpg: Signature made Mon May 3 14:28:49 2004 PDT using RSA key ID BA8F038D gpg: Good signature from "Klaus Knopper <[email protected]>" gpg: aka "Klaus Knopper <[email protected]>"

Another version has the signature 8e9cd4d310ad8381d1ec3326c6caae2b. This version was signed:

Code:

gpg: Signature made Tue May 4 15:07:09 2004 PDT using RSA key ID BA8F038D gpg: Good signature from "Klaus Knopper <[email protected]>" gpg: aka "Klaus Knopper <[email protected]>"

So, it appears that the later one is probably the one that people want.

I downloaded the "...aa6f" version myself. Should I be concerned and trying to fing the "...ae2b" version instead? This seems very odd. :?

My guess is that the 49a62cdac7a3afcee0d2d47ea17daa6f one is probably an early release candidate (or Klaus noticed a mistake, and fixed it in the later one). So, we probably do want the 8e9cd4d310ad8381d1ec3326c6caae2b one (the later one), just in case. It appears to be made around a day later than the earlier one. However, I have no idea as to what the differences are.
05-06-2004, 07:22 AM
renderedbrian

Re: You want the one with signature 8e9cd4d310ad8381d1ec3326

Quote:

Originally Posted by darrylo

My guess is that the 49a62cdac7a3afcee0d2d47ea17daa6f one is probably an early release candidate (or Klaus noticed a mistake, and fixed it in the later one). So, we probably do want the 8e9cd4d310ad8381d1ec3326c6caae2b one (the later one), just in case. It appears to be made around a day later than the earlier one. However, I have no idea as to what the differences are.

Hmm, in that case I'll download the newer version while I'm at work. I wouldn't have know there was a newer version!

Downloading from ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/ftp.uni...linux/knoppix/
60.4KB/s (not bad for 576k adsl)

--
brian
05-06-2004, 09:23 AM
madoka

Re: You want the one with signature 8e9cd4d310ad8381d1ec3326

Quote:

Originally Posted by darrylo

My guess is that the 49a62cdac7a3afcee0d2d47ea17daa6f one is probably an early release candidate (or Klaus noticed a mistake, and fixed it in the later one). So, we probably do want the 8e9cd4d310ad8381d1ec3326c6caae2b one (the later one), just in case. It appears to be made around a day later than the earlier one. However, I have no idea as to what the differences are.

The following files are different:

\KNOPPIX\md5sums
\boot\isolinux\f2
\boot\isolinux\f3

It's obvious why the first file changed, but I don't know what the other two files do.
05-06-2004, 10:15 AM
abittner

only the cheatcode displayed bad 3.3 instead of 3.4

dont worry, only the help page in the isolinux bootloader/cheat-code screen has been modified. the text still showed knoppix 3.3.

be sure to read the knoppix mailinglists to get max information

http://mailman.linuxtag.org/pipermai...ay/005132.html

if u got the first knoppix 3.4 iso from some days ago, thats just fine, nothing to worry about.

no need for more net traffic congestion :)

thats also why the isolinux files f2 and f3 are different like madoka said before.
05-06-2004, 12:34 PM
Snow

Whats up with the knoppix.com sight. It has been down for days. Any ideas as to when it might be coming back up.
05-06-2004, 03:16 PM
rangerelf

Anybody remastering?

Is anybody planning on remastering 3.4, taking out the 2.4 kernel and putting in KOffice and TeX?

I know, it's the exact reverse of Knopper's decisions, but I like KOffice and TeX, and don't see much benefit in having two kernels.

-gus
05-06-2004, 03:45 PM
j.drake

Re: Anybody remastering?

Quote:

Originally Posted by rangerelf

Is anybody planning on remastering 3.4, taking out the 2.4 kernel and putting in KOffice and TeX?

I know, it's the exact reverse of Knopper's decisions, but I like KOffice and TeX, and don't see much benefit in having two kernels.

-gus

May be premature. Much as I want to go straight to 2.6 and leave 2.4 behind, kernel 2.6 has been giving me and a number of other users problems, and I'm not willing to rely upon it. Meanwhile, v.3.4 with the 2.4 kernel is the closest thing to flawless that I've ever seen. It's easy for me to mess about with 2.6, because I'm just playing now. But I wouldn't even THINK of doing a HD install of Knoppix 3.4 with the 2.6 kernel, even just for fun, until it works a little better, and there is NO WAY that I would be willing to rely upon it for anything important yet. Many people rely on these distributions for very important things in their lives, and while I would trust 3.4/2.4 with the very most important things in my life, I'd sooner rely on WinMe than Knoppix 3.4/2.6. Hopefully, the bugs will be resolved soon, and I wouldn't be surprised to see a new release before the end of May. Once 2.6 proves to work as reliably as 2.4, then I wouldn't be surprised to see the 2.4 kernel come out. Of course that doesn't mean that your apps will be replaced, necessarily - I'm betting that the freed space will be either reserved for expansion (to delay the necessity of DVD distribution) or allocated to a non-redundant app. But, hey, whaddoIknow??
05-06-2004, 03:54 PM
eadz

For those wondering about md5 sums. There were 2 released versions. One was released prematurely and has knoppix 3.3 in the boot loader.

apart from that they are the same. The 2 valid md5sums are :
8e9cd4d310ad8381d1ec3326c6caae2b <-- newest
and
49a62cdac7a3afcee0d2d47ea17daa6f <-- older with wrong version number

http://mailman.linuxtag.org/pipermai...ay/005138.html
05-06-2004, 04:36 PM
SUOrangeman

I think the main torrent contains to the "old" ISO. Any chance that it would be updated?

-SUO
05-06-2004, 04:53 PM
Sivananda

Quote:

I think the main torrent contains to the "old" ISO. Any chance that it would be updated?

Well, I've been trying to seed a torrent of the newer iso, but I can't seem to get the built-in tracker in Azureus (my BT client) working properly. If anyone has a tracker they'd be willing to let me post the torrent to I'll give that a try.

I only have a DSL connection however, and if it hogs too much bandwidth I'll need to kill it after a few hours, so please keep your BT clients open to help reseed!

EDIT: Ok, I THINK I have this setup right if anyone wants to give it a shot...

http://sivanandas.homeip.net:6969/

I've got the tracker passworded. Username is 'knoppix', password is 'netforum' (no quotes).

btw this is actually a folder with the iso, md5sum, cheatcodes etc...

Hope it works. This is my first attempt at hosting a torrent... :? :lol:
05-06-2004, 05:05 PM
vulcanidiot

Re: Knoppix Version 3.4 Released

Re: Upgrading

ID10T error: insufficient knowledge for upgrade

I just downloaded and did a hdinstall about a week ago of 3.3.
Now, wanting to be current, I want to "upgrade" to 3.4. Do I need to just blowaway existing 3.3 on the hard disk and do a fresh install or is there an upgrade script of some kind. I would love to just upgrade/repair/replace/etc whatever the changes are, but didn't know if this was possible.

Thanks for helping the idiot

:)
05-06-2004, 06:21 PM
Fabianx

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlesfan

well also with the "Resize and Rotate" 0.5 on the lower right conner Under KDE,
it's great but if you choose to switch to a smaller screen size (let's say 1024x768 to 800 x600)

you won't see the KDE Panel (the button bar) again...

should I consider this another bug ?

Well as it works under SuSE (confirmed myself) well yes we should consider it a bug ...

But I dunno how they do it ...

Perhaps I will have some contact to them soon, so I caould then ask ... :)

cu

Fabian

PS: Please add it to the Docs/Bugs/3.4
05-06-2004, 10:35 PM
chrisb

Re: Anybody remastering?

Quote:

Originally Posted by j.drake

But I wouldn't even THINK of doing a HD install of Knoppix 3.4 with the 2.6 kernel, even just for fun, until it works a little better, and there is NO WAY that I would be willing to rely upon it for anything important yet.

The HD install includes both 2.4 and 2.6 and defaults to 2.4.

I installed it today on a new Dell laptop and changed the default to 2.6 to get more hardware recognised: there are good reasons for using 2.6!
05-06-2004, 11:30 PM
c_cinq

i just downloaded the iso from ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/ftp.uni...linux/knoppix/

thanks.
05-07-2004, 01:14 AM
RogersPL

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sivananda

[snip]

EDIT: Ok, I THINK I have this setup right if anyone wants to give it a shot...

http://sivanandas.homeip.net:6969/

I've got the tracker passworded. Username is 'knoppix', password is 'netforum' (no quotes).

btw this is actually a folder with the iso, md5sum, cheatcodes etc...

Hope it works. This is my first attempt at hosting a torrent... :? :lol:

Didn't work for me. I now have 700MB of 0x00's. I'd be willing to try again.
05-07-2004, 02:05 AM
ruymbeke

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogersPL

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sivananda

[snip]

EDIT: Ok, I THINK I have this setup right if anyone wants to give it a shot...

http://sivanandas.homeip.net:6969/

I've got the tracker passworded. Username is 'knoppix', password is 'netforum' (no quotes).

btw this is actually a folder with the iso, md5sum, cheatcodes etc...

Hope it works. This is my first attempt at hosting a torrent... :? :lol:

Didn't work for me. I now have 700MB of 0x00's. I'd be willing to try again.

Same for me ...
05-07-2004, 02:19 AM
sklynn

Having problems getting to the buy web sites..
05-07-2004, 02:19 AM
Sivananda

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogersPL

Didn't work for me. I now have 700MB of 0x00's. I'd be willing to try again.

Well THAT certainly sucks. I'm very sorry if it's a problem on my end. :oops: Unfortunately if it is I have no idea what the trouble might be. I haven't burned a copy of the image yet, as I'm out of media at the moment, but I did mount it to my local filesystem and everything appears to be intact.

Anybody familiar with the Azureus BT client and know what, if anything, I might be missing?
05-07-2004, 03:50 AM
oscar

kernel 2.6 still has no support for serial mouse :(
05-07-2004, 05:07 AM
charlesfan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fabianx

Well as it works under SuSE (confirmed myself) well yes we should consider it a bug ...

But I dunno how they do it ...

Perhaps I will have some contact to them soon, so I caould then ask ... :)

cu

Fabian

PS: Please add it to the Docs/Bugs/3.4

Thanks Fabian, I've already added it there, BTW, I've found more bugs when doing a HD-INSTALL with the new knoppix-installer :D I'll post it there too.

I did my harddisk installation by booting with kernel 2.6 using the "fromhd=" parameter
1. during installation, there were some file missing error (some .mozilla configuration files)
2. after installation, it won't boot
3. after trying to manually modify lilo.conf I found that it boots with lang=de on a english knoppix by default.
4. lilo won't run and saids that the partition table is different compare to "/proc/partitions"

* I might do another hd-install again by booting kernel 2.4.26 later... now I have to catch up with my school course schedules :? my course professors are unhappy with my the results with previous course assignments.

cu Charles from Hong Kong :D
05-07-2004, 06:19 AM
patik

Now posting to alt.binaries.warez.linux
05-07-2004, 08:38 AM
timread

gcc and kernal problem

I have installed knoppix 3.4 to my hard disk and am now trying to install VMWare but it informs me that:

Your kernel was built with "gcc" version "2.95.4", while you are trying to use
"/usr/bin/gcc" version "3.3.3". This configuration is not supported and VMware
Workstation cannot work in such configuration. Please either recompile your
kernel with "/usr/bin/gcc" version "3.3.3", or restart /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl
with CC environment variable pointing to the "gcc" version "2.95.4".

How comes the gcc version is different from the version used to compile the kernal? Can I do anything to solve this? Is it possible to install gcc 2.9.5 and not have problems.

Thanks,

Tim
05-07-2004, 08:51 AM
Stephen

Re: gcc and kernal problem

Quote:

Originally Posted by timread

How comes the gcc version is different from the version used to compile the kernal?

That is the current version in Sarge/testing thus it is installed and a lot of people still compile their kernels with the older version of gcc as does Klaus.

Quote:

Can I do anything to solve this?

ln -sf /usr/bin/gcc-2.95 /usr/bin/gcc as root should do it.

Quote:

Is it possible to install gcc 2.9.5 and not have problems.

It is already installed and yes it works with no problems except for the symbolic link with some software.

Quote:

Thanks,

Tim

Your welcome.
05-07-2004, 01:10 PM
cron1

knoppix hdd-install with 2.6.5

Hello!

I started knoppix with the 2.6 kernel on my labtop
(the ct' editions 2.6 didn't load). As reported by others I got
a scsi-error and a segfault. Loaded with option "knoppix noscsi" and worked.

Started knoppix-installer in debian-mode and rebooted.
"uname -a" showed the 2.4 kernel again.
However the knoppix-installer configured /etc/lilo.conf
with boot options for the 2.4 and 2.6.5 kernels.

I opend lilo.conf and looked for the entry /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.5
which has:
append="ramdisk_size=100000 ... ... ... "
changed it to
append="ramdisk_size=100000 ... ... ... noscsi"

now I run "lilo" and rebooted.
Nice lilo boot-menu, now I can choose the 2.4 kernel or the
2.6.5 kernel.

Stephan
05-07-2004, 04:31 PM
scottknl

I used the following command to set gcc to version 2.9.5.
export CC=/usr/bin/gcc2.95

Then just run the vmware install.

When installing vmware with the knoppix 3.4 version note that kernel headers are required to compile the video driver module. The new version of knoppix only contains kernel headers for the 2.4.26 kernel and not for the 2.6.5 kernel. You will have to boot from the 2.4.26 kernel in order to finish the vmware install.

I've had a problem with 2.6.5 kernel starting in VMware (knoppix26 nobootscsi) and then once the desktop comes up, the keyboard doesn't respond. Hitting Shift-Insert seems to cure it.

I just wanted to mention that I really like the new scripts for bluetooth access and use them often. Thanks knoppix developers.

Does anyone know where I can get the 2.6.5 kernel headers from the 3.4 version of knoppix? I'll probably make trouble if I install the ones from debian as the kernels aren't identical.

:P

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