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Just downloaded Knoppix 5.3 (DVD version) via BitTorrent.
It is a ZIP FILE of 4.14gb (btw, I use jZip, not winzip or winrar).
I assume it must be unzipped first, and then burned to DVD.
Is there a particular file for beginning this process, or what is the procedure?
Thanks!
It is not a zip file.Quote:
Originally Posted by iDev
Open any folder on your computer, go to the tools menu item, pick folder options ..., when that opens go to the view tab, and find the option to hide extensions for known file types and turn that off (uncheck it).
Once you have done that, follow the documentation link near the top of this page and read the downloading faq, which includes detailed burning instructions.
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Originally Posted by Harry Kuhman
It most definitely IS A ZIP FILE. It is in ZIP format directly from the download. Clicking on it offers the option to extract the files, and the files CAN be extracted. I DO appreciate your response, but it is entirely unintelligible to me....
Anyone have basic step-by-step help? IF LINUX IS THIS CRYPTIC BEGINNING WITH THE DEMO, IS IT EVEN WORSE TRYING UTILIZE IT INSTALLED ON A SYSTEM??
I also downloaded v5.1 as CD via BitTorrent. It too is a ZIP file--It is clearly labeled as such and can be extracted.
It'd be nice to use either of these---but clear, detailed instructions instructions don't seem to exist!!
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Originally Posted by iDev
How interesting. Since you will not follow my previous instructions, try this:Quote:
Originally Posted by iDev
Open the folder that the file is in. Point the cursor at the file and don't move it until the little help balloon pops up. Does that help balloon say it is a zip file, or does it just perhaps identify the file type as an ISO file? Repeat this experiment on a real zip file to see the difference.
The easiest way to identify a file's type is as follow:Quote:
Originally Posted by iDev
On Win XP ==> Start ==> All Programs ==> Accessories ==> Command Prompt
Then you will have the DOS box appears.
If the above does not work, try
On Win XP ==> Start ==> Run ==> Enter "cmd" ==> click OK
OK, now you have a DOS box
Assume you have download the knoppix image file on "c:\temp\download", type the following in the DOS box
Then check the output file listing and see if the file has an extension equal ".zip" or ".iso"Code:cd /d "c:\temp\download"
dir
Rgds,
Chip
iDev, the instructions do exist and Harry pointed you to them. If you are already familiar with burning ISO files using XP or other OS then fine, just go ahead. If you aren't then we do have instructions. Try this.
I appreciate your attempt, but your instructions are unintelligible to me due to the files.Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry Kuhman
It is strange that no one believes me. These files were downloaded the recommended way, through BitTorrent.
The "bubble" says clearly: "Type: Zip Archive File". Furthermore, it has the zip icon, and after extraction, it indeed appears in an expanded form, but no clearly marked "ISO" file. Yet both the extracted file and the zip file are the same size.
If the demo disc is this much of a pain, perhaps Linux just has too many complications/quirks at this stage for the average user??
It has nothing to do with Linux. The problem is with you and Windows.Quote:
perhaps Linux just has too many complications/quirks at this stage for the average user
The file you downloaded MUST have an ISO extension otherwise you got the wrong file. BUT when you look at that file with windows explorer a couple of things can happen.
First, depending upon the type of view you are using in Windows Explorer, it may not even show you the extension at all.
Second, on my system I use Winzip and it has registered itself as the program which handles any file with one of these extensions: ZIP,ISO,LHA,LHZ,ARJ,GZ,TAR (and some others) and it tells the system to identify them all as "Winzip File". In Windows Explorer they all show up as "WinZIP file" no matter what their extension is. On your system, JZIP may have registered these filetypes and called them "ZIP Archive file" but the file you downloaded is still an ISO file and you must burn it, without decompressing it, straight to a DVD. And burning an ISO file is not the same as burning regular data. The program doing the burn must be capable of handling the ISO correctly. Not all programs do.
Pete
You are not the first one to claim a file is a zip file when it is an ISO file. The ICON means absolutely nothing, that is just Windows way of telling you what program is associated with this type of file, and unfortunately many programs will grab various extensions and claim ownership of them, this is a common nusance in the Windows world. It happens a lot with graphics images, but also happens with other types of files. As to the fact that you can extract things from an ISO file, yea, you can. But to make a good Knoppix CD or DVD you should not, you need to burn the CD or DVD with the ISO file. And don't just copy the ISO to a disc, burn the disc with the instruction that I pointed you to.Quote:
Originally Posted by iDev
And I told you how to find those instructions in the wiki. I will never take the short way out and just post the link to them, I want readers to know that the entire wiki is there with lots of documentation for them. If I posted a link directly to the faq then past experience tells me that people will post back and expect me to keep providing links when they have more questions.
As to that balloon saying it is a zip file, that is very troubling. This is exactly why I tried to get you to fix your copy of Windows and turn off the "feature" that hides the file extensions. If it really is a zip file then it is quite worthless. However, the official torrent does not deliver a zip file, it delivers an ISO file and several other tiny support files. If you are using the same torrent as found by the "Get Knoppix" link at the top of this page then it must be delivering an ISO file. If you found some strange torrents elsewhere then I guess they could be deliering anything. but it seems like a lot of effort to have gone through just to deliver something useless to you. I'm still not inclined to believe these are two zip files from two different torrent downloads. If you believe they are then either turn off the "feature" that hides the extension or do as another posted said and look at the files fron DOS, which does not hide the extension like Windows does.
Also check the last modified dates of the files to see if your "uncompression" program made any changes to the files. And do the md5 test against the files to see if the contents are as expected. If you have a truly rogue torrent they could have included bad md5 files with the zip, but I think it is much more likely that you either have an ISO file or that you managed to change the name of the ISO file to a zip file in your pointless attempts to uncompress it.