apt-get wants to Downgrade some packages

The following packages will be DOWNGRADED:
cvs dhcp3-common dhcp3-server dietlibc-dev falconseye falconseye-data fam
glibc-doc gs-common gzip iproute ircii lbxproxy lftp lha libdps1 liblwres1
libmailtools-perl libmysqlclient10 libnetpbm9 libxaw7 libxaw7-dev libxml1
lynx man-db mikmod mime-support mpack mpg321 mysql-client mysql-common
mysql-server netris nfs-common nfs-kernel-server pcmcia-cs proxymngr rsync
samba-doc screen thttpd twm unzip wget xboing xdm xfonts-100dpi
xfonts-100dpi-transcoded xfonts-75dpi xfonts-75dpi-transcoded xfonts-base
xfonts-base-transcoded xfonts-scalable xfs xfwp xgalaga xnest xpdf
xpdf-utils xserver-common xserver-xfree86 xterm xutils xvfb



is there a way to stop it from asking me if i want to downgrade or not?

Care to tell us what you did to make it want to downgrade?
Also what do you have in /etc/apt/apt.conf and sources.list?

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Originally Posted by Markus

Care to tell us what you did to make it want to downgrade?
Also what do you have in /etc/apt/apt.conf and sources.list?

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i did not do anything .... I installed a few video-audio plugins from synaptic and next time i did an update and then upgrade asked me to downgrade all these or not.

this is my sources list. It is the default.




APT::Default-Release "testing";
APT::Cache-Limit 10000000;
Apt::Get::Purge;





deb file:/var/cache/apt-build/repository apt-build main
# /etc/apt/sources.list for Knoppix
# If you want to do a "full upgrade", you should first
# upgrade the Packages from Debian/unstable (KDE & Co.)
# before doing a (dist-)upgrade for Debian/testing.
#
# See sources.list(5) for more information, especialy
# Remember that you can only use http, ftp or file URIs
# CDROMs are managed through the apt-cdrom tool.

# Security updates for "stable"
deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org testing/updates main contrib non-free

# Stable
deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/pub/debian stable main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/pub/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free

# Stable Sources
deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/pub/debian stable main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/pub/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free

# Testing
deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/pub/debian testing main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/pub/debian-non-US testing/non-US main contrib non-free

# Testing Sources
deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/pub/debian testing main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/pub/debian-non-US testing/non-US main contrib non-free

# Unstable
deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib non-free

# Unstable Sources
deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib non-free

# Experimental
deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian ../project/experimental main contrib non-free

# Experimental Sources
deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian ../project/experimental main contrib non-free

# Java
deb ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/languages/java/linux/debian woody main non-free
deb-src ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/languages/java/linux/debian woody main non-free
deb ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/languages/java/linux/debian unstable main non-free
deb-src ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/languages/java/linux/debian unstable main non-free

# More wireless stuff
deb http://debian.isg.ee.ethz.ch/public woody madwifi
deb-src http://debian.isg.ee.ethz.ch/public woody madwifi
deb http://debian.isg.ee.ethz.ch/public woody airo-mpi
deb-src http://debian.isg.ee.ethz.ch/public woody airo-mpi
# deb ftp://ftp.tcweb.org/pub/debian unstable main
# deb-src ftp://ftp.tcweb.org/pub/debian unstable main

# Blades Repository (pppoeconf & co)
# deb http://people.debian.org/~blade/testing ./
# deb-src http://people.debian.org/~blade/testing ./

# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 r3 _Potato_ - Official i386 Binary-1 (20010427)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main
deb http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/debian sid main
deb-src http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/debian sid main

Knoppix is a mix of testing, unstable and even stable I think.
If you remember which packages you got with synaptic you could check from which tree they were with: apt-cache policy packagename
Looks to me like you got some from testing and now it wants to downgrade the ones depending on them also to testing.
What happens with: apt-get -s -t unstable install packagename_you_installed and_another_one

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Originally Posted by Markus

Knoppix is a mix of testing, unstable and even stable I think.
If you remember which packages you got with synaptic you could check from which tree they were with: apt-cache policy packagename
Looks to me like you got some from testing and now it wants to downgrade the ones depending on them also to testing.
What happens with: apt-get -s -t unstable install packagename_you_installed and_another_one

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apt-get -s -t unstable install avifile-divx-plugin
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
avifile-divx-plugin is already the newest version.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 568 not upgraded.




apt-cache policy avifile-divx-plugin
avifile-divx-plugin:
Installed: 1:0.7.38.20030710-1.1
Candidate: 1:0.7.38.20030710-1.1
Version Table:
*** 1:0.7.38.20030710-1.1 0
99 http://ftp.de.debian.org unstable/contrib Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status




this plugin was 1 of the 10 i got yesterday




what is going to happen if i hit Y to downgrade and then try to upgrade again? will it let me upgrade them or not

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Originally Posted by DimGR

APT::Default-Release "testing";
APT::Cache-Limit 10000000;
Apt::Get::Purge;

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I'd say that the testing there is why your getting testing packages unless you specify unstable.
Did you tell synaptic to get from unstable?
I don't suppose downgrading the packages will do much harm, but then again, I have never downgraded as I run a pure unstable so I can't tell for sure.

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Originally Posted by Markus

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Originally Posted by DimGR

APT::Default-Release "testing";
APT::Cache-Limit 10000000;
Apt::Get::Purge;

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I'd say that the testing there is why your getting testing packages unless you specify unstable.
Did you tell synaptic to get from unstable?
I don't suppose downgrading the packages will do much harm, but then again, I have never downgraded as I run a pure unstable so I can't tell for sure.

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so if i just replace the word testing with unstable everything will be fine ?

i did not specify from where to download the plugins ...

Don't know about fine but at least you'll be getting packages from one branch only which will make life a lot easier.
What will happen is that it's going to upgrade the whole system to unstable so you'll probably want to check commands like
dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/package.......deb
A shorter way to do this would be a dist-upgrade but from what I've read, others have had lots of problems with that command.

FWIW you might want to repeat the -t unstable install with the other packages as well or at least check them with policy to find out whats downgrading your system.

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Originally Posted by Markus

Don't know about fine but at least you'll be getting packages from one branch only which will make life a lot easier.
What will happen is that it's going to upgrade the whole system to unstable so you'll probably want to check commands like
dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/package.......deb
A shorter way to do this would be a dist-upgrade but from what I've read, others have had lots of problems with that command.

FWIW you might want to repeat the -t unstable install with the other packages as well or at least check them with policy to find out whats downgrading your system.

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but i had installed and i have been with Sid unstable. HOw did it become "testing" ?

Hmm, what did you install?
Knoppix is not pure sid. It's as said, a mix of sid, sarge and I think even woody.

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Originally Posted by Markus

Hmm, what did you install?
Knoppix is not pure sid. It's as said, a mix of sid, sarge and I think even woody.

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knoppix , yes

Well that's why you have packages from different branches then.
Upgrading to unstable might be a PITA or hopefully not, but I think it's still worth it because installing new packages will be easier after you've managed to upgrade once. A lot of people never upgrade their install though. A matter of taste I suppose.
If you want a distro that's pure sid try kanotix which is what I'm running.

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Originally Posted by Markus

Well that's why you have packages from different branches then.
Upgrading to unstable might be a PITA or hopefully not, but I think it's still worth it because installing new packages will be easier after you've managed to upgrade once. A lot of people never upgrade their install though. A matter of taste I suppose.
If you want a distro that's pure sid try kanotix which is what I'm running.

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I just downgraded right now and ill try to upgrade again. If it fails etc i will give kanotix a try:)

thanks

i know think apt-get is all messed p





apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Calculating Upgrade... Failed
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
cloop-utils: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-4) but 2.2.5-11.5 is to be installed
Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:3.3.3-1) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libstdc++5 (>= 1:3.3.3-1) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.1) but it is not going to be installed
libqt3-mt-dev: Depends: xlibs-static-dev (>= 4.3.0.dfsg.1-4) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libxext-dev (>= 4.3.0.dfsg.1-4) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libxrandr-dev (>= 4.3.0.dfsg.1-4) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libsm-dev (>= 4.3.0.dfsg.1-4) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libxmu-dev (>= 4.3.0.dfsg.1-4) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libice-dev (>= 4.3.0.dfsg.1-4) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libx11-dev (>= 4.3.0.dfsg.1-4) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libxt-dev (>= 4.3.0.dfsg.1-4) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libmng-dev (>= 1.0.3) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libpng12-0-dev
Depends: libjpeg62-dev but it is not going to be installed
Depends: zlib1g-dev but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libfreetype6-dev but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libqt3c102-mt (= 3:3.2.3-4) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: qt3-dev-tools (= 3:3.2.3-4) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: xlibmesa-gl-dev but it is not going to be installed or
libgl-dev
Depends: xlibmesa-glu-dev but it is not going to be installed or
libglu1-mesa-dev but it is not going to be installed or
libglu-dev
Depends: libxrender-dev but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libxcursor-dev but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libaudio-dev but it is not going to be installed
libxft2-dev: Depends: libxft2 (= 2.1.1-2) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libfontconfig1-dev but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libfreetype6-dev but it is not going to be installed
Depends: xlibs-dev but it is not going to be installed
Depends: zlib1g-dev but it is not going to be installed or
libz-dev
Depends: pkg-config but it is not going to be installed
mknbi: Depends: perl but it is not going to be installed
pppconfig: Depends: ppp (>= 2.3.7) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: whiptail but it is not going to be installed or
dialog but it is not going to be installed
xlibmesa-dri: Depends: xlibmesa-gl but it is not going to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.



can these be fixed or not?

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Originally Posted by DimGR

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Originally Posted by Markus

Don't know about fine but at least you'll be getting packages from one branch only which will make life a lot easier.
What will happen is that it's going to upgrade the whole system to unstable so you'll probably want to check commands like
dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/package.......deb
A shorter way to do this would be a dist-upgrade but from what I've read, others have had lots of problems with that command.

FWIW you might want to repeat the -t unstable install with the other packages as well or at least check them with policy to find out whats downgrading your system.

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but i had installed and i have been with Sid unstable. HOw did it become "testing" ?

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I think knoppix is standard set to testing, although klaus has added some unstable packages.

dist-upgrade doesnt give *me* any problems, so you might change testing to unstable, then do an apt-get dist-upgrade.

but mixing branches is no problem, I have stable, testing and unstable packages. only unstable packages might give problems now and then, but unstable has been quite stable the last months.

What do you have in apt.conf? Testing or unstable?
It still tries to get testing, so what command did you issue?
apt-get dist-upgrade unstable?

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Originally Posted by Markus

What do you have in apt.conf? Testing or unstable?
It still tries to get testing, so what command did you issue?
apt-get dist-upgrade unstable?

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in apt.conf i changed testing to unstable
The distro-upgrade command gives me the same dependacies errors.
apt-get upgrade though gives me all these :




apt-get upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
abiword-common abiword-gnome abiword-help abiword-plugins
abiword-plugins-gnome apache-utils bitcollider-plugins blt capplets
capplets-data cloop-utils dcgui-qt dia-common dia-gnome dia-libs dpkg
dsniff epiphany-browser frozen-bubble frozen-bubble-data gdk-imlib1 gdm
gimp gimp-data gimp-helpbrowser gksu gniall gnome gnome-applets
gnome-applets-data gnome-control-center gnome-core
gnome-desktop-environment gnome-games gnome-games-data gnome-media
gnome-office gnome-session gnome-system-monitor gnomemeeting gnumeric
gnumeric-common gq grip gs-esp gtkam gucharmap imlib1 imlib11 jpilot-mail
kdeedu kdelibs kdelibs-bin kdelibs4 klettres libaiksaurusgtk0c102
libbonobo2-0 libbonobo2-common libcupsimage2 libcupsys2-gnutls10
libgcj4-dev libgdkcardimage0 libgimp2.0 libgnome2-0 libgnome2-common
libgnomeprint2.2-0 libgnomeprint2.2-data libgnomevfs2-0 libgnomevfs2-common
libgtk2.0-0 libmagic1 libmagick6 libmono0 libnautilus2-2 libpstoedit0
librsvg2-2 librsvg2-common libsdl-image1.2 libsdl-perl libssl0.9.7
libwxgtk2.4 libx11-6 libx11-dev libxft2 libxml2-utils libxslt1 libxslt1.1
lyx-common mknbi mono-assemblies-base mono-common mono-jit mozilla-firefox
mozilla-plugin-vlc muine nautilus nautilus-media netspeed pppconfig
python2.3-gtk2 rhythmbox scribus synaptic vlc vpnc wxvlc x-dev xfce4-panel
xlibmesa-dri xlibs-data xloadimage
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 271 not upgraded.

Run apt-get -f install as root to get apt-get unstuck first. If it still reports a breakage at the first package it's trying to fix, I believe it might be the cloop-utils package, you'll need to either do this to get it installed:

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dpkg -i --force-overwrite cloop-utils-version#_i386.deb

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It seems like it needs other packages to be upgraded as well for the cloop-utils package to install successfully. Once you do the force-overwrite, follow up with

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dpkg --configure -a

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to configure the rest of the downloaded packages before resuming with apt-get.

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Originally Posted by Durand Hicks

Run apt-get -f install as root to get apt-get unstuck first. If it still reports a breakage at the first package it's trying to fix, I believe it might be the cloop-utils package, you'll need to either do this to get it installed:

Code:

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dpkg -i --force-overwrite cloop-utils-version#_i386.deb

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It seems like it needs other packages to be upgraded as well for the cloop-utils package to install successfully. Once you do the force-overwrite, follow up with

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dpkg --configure -a

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to configure the rest of the downloaded packages before resuming with apt-get.

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thank you but its the same problem again



home/dimgr# apt-get -f install
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 271 not upgraded.
root@PenguinGR:/home/dimgr# dpkg -i --force-overwrite cloop-utils-version#_i386.deb
dpkg: error processing cloop-utils-version#_i386.deb (--install):
cannot access archive: No such file or directory
Errors were encountered while processing:
cloop-utils-version#_i386.deb
root@PenguinGR:/home/dimgr# dpkg --configure -a
root@PenguinGR:/home/dimgr#

Umm, I should have explained the cloops-utils-version#_i386.deb, where you should replace the words version# with the actual version number of the package you are trying to force overwrite. Look in /var/cache/apt/archives to find the package and force overwrite from that directory.

HTH,

Durand

Sometimes a packages needs another one to install so as well as forcing you could also check with:
apt-get -s -b --ignore-hold install cloop-utils
This will tell you if it needs any new packages, then add the new packages to the line until it goes through like:
cd /var/cache/apt/archives
dpkg -i --force-all cloop-utils........deb another_package..........deb

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Originally Posted by Durand Hicks

Umm, I should have explained the cloops-utils-version#_i386.deb, where you should replace the words version# with the actual version number of the package you are trying to force overwrite. Look in /var/cache/apt/archives to find the package and force overwrite from that directory.

HTH,

Durand

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or download the latest package manually.

you must remember, knoppix isnt fully debian-compattible. thats why upgrading gives problems. kanotix is a knoppix-variant which tries to be knoppix for hdinstall. as much as possible debian-compattible. this might help...

and you might use synaptic for fixing some of the problems, too.