Knoppix 3.7 is out ... sort of

I was reading the latest edition of Distrowatch and I saw that Knoppix 3.7 has been released. Unfortunately it has not yet been released to the net yet. If you are in Germany, you can get it in the latest issue of PC-Welt magazine. Unless someone grabs this and puts it up on bittorrent, the rest of us will be waiting for a while. As previously reported by Probono, the 3.7 release will include "a configurable "Firewall on CD" (including masquerading and proxy features)"

Read Distrowatch here: http://66.111.55.60/weekly.php?issue=20040913#1

The official announcement is at knoppix.com

Hello mod, folks

I actually got me this 3.7 - first I was sceptical, because these german mags are really competitive, and you never know what they are up too.

Unfortunately, I don't have Bit-t. installed so you have to wait.

All I can say for now. This edition is the first of all knoppixes that runs from scratch with 2.6 kernel on my laptop, because the strg+alt+minus/plus keys work here for the first time.

This month there's also the 10th-ann-issue of german "Linux-Mag" /w a Knoppix-DVD (incl. 8 diff. Knoppix-versions!) and there is a mag called "PC-Direct" that has the 'linuxtag-Knoppix-DVD-Version 3.5'

A lots of Knoppix for September, eh?

Before I invest the time and bandwidth, does anyone know if the 3.4 and 3.6 buglists have been resolved in the new version?

jd

If anyone can guide me through the process of creating an iso image of the cd and creating a *.torrent, I'd go to the nearest gas-station to buy a copy of that (IMHO really crappy and too windows centric) "PC-Welt" magazine, I have to buy cigarettes anyways.
It's 9:30 pm here in Germany and I got to work tomorrow, but I'd leave the puter on all night for seeding via a 192kbps adsl uplink.

Update: it's 00:02 am now and I've finally figured out how to set up a bt tracker, yay! Torrent available at: http://www.osnanet.de/dlubatz/knoppi...lt.iso.torrent

Note: I'll try to keep this tracker online as long as possible, but my ISP will change my IP adress in 24 hours, so that'll be the end of sharing then:-( UPDATE: I will take the tracker down at 22:15 pm (CET), the 15th of september; fearing the electricity bill + dynamic IP will change soon, you know;)

There is an changinglog for 3.7? Is it originally in german? Does it use kernel 2.6.8?

Thanks!

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There is an changinglog for 3.7? Is it originally in german? Does it use kernel 2.6.8?

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Theres no official changelog so far, but it might be on the CD itself. The magazine tells me that theres a new feature called "NAT-Router-on-CD" or so.
Yes, it uses kernel 2.6.7 and its in german but "lang=us" works as usual.

Could a moderator or someone similar post an md5sum of the original image, excuse my paranoia!

Actually anyone posting a file-size and md5sum would be a good start :-)

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Originally Posted by bfree

Could a moderator or someone similar post an md5sum of the original image, excuse my paranoia!

Actually anyone posting a file-size and md5sum would be a good start :-)

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I am calculating the md5sum as I type.. ah, there it is: 057bb916206fcc3359a3cb0f674b0448 But that won't do anything about your paranoia I guess;-) I booted that knoppix 3.7 CD with the "testcd" cheatcode before I created an iso image off of it! Didn't post an md5sum yet because bittorrent handles integrity checking on its own.
The filesize is, as always, as large as one standard cdr: 700 MB;-)

Is there an unofficial release date for the standard edition of 3.7?

Confirmed md5sum

057bb916206fcc3359a3cb0f674b0448 knoppix_3.7_PC-Welt.iso

715416KB

:)

knoppix-version 3.7 : 3.7 2004-08-16
knoppix-version 3.6 : 3.6 2004-08-16
dpkg-query -l
different package (without package version comparision)

knx36.txt
knx37.txt
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42 <! ii bacula-client
43 <! ii bacula-common
44 <! ii bacula-console
45 <! ii bacula-fd
57 <! ii bison
!> ii build-essentia
81 <! ii chromium
82 <! ii chromium-data
!> ii evolution-data
!> ii evolution-exch
!> ii evolution1.5
!> ii firewall-knopp
!> ii gnome-icon-the
!> ii gnome-keyring
!> ii gnome-vfs-http
!> ii gtkhtml3.1
364 * hi kdebase-data
* ii kdebase-data
368 * hi kdelibs-data
* ii kdelibs-data
381 <! ii kdevelop3
382 <! ii kdevelop3-data
383 <! ii kdevelop3-plug
413 <! ii knoppix-custom
!> ii libasn1-6-heim
!> ii libcompfaceg1
!> ii libgail-common
!> ii libgail17
!> ii libgal2.2-0
!> ii libgal2.2-comm
!> ii libgcj4-awt
!> ii libgcj4-common
566 <! ii libgdk-pixbuf-
574 <! ii libglib1.2-dev
579 <! ii libglpng
!> ii libgnome-keyri
!> ii libgnome-pilot
!> ii libgnomeprint2
!> ii libgnomeprint2
!> ii libgnomeprintu
!> ii libgnomeprintu
!> ii libgssapi1-hei
604 <! ii libgtk1.2-dev
!> ii libgtkhtml3.1-
!> ii libkrb-1-kerbe
!> ii libkrb5-17-hei
!> ii libntfs5
694 <! ii libopenal0
!> ii libpisync0
!> ii libroken16-ker
734 <! ii libruby1.8
!> ii libsoup2.2-3
862 <! ii madwifi-module
876 <! ii mgp
!> ii mozilla-firefo
!> ii mozilla-firefo
914 * hi ndiswrapper
* ii ndiswrapper
917 <! ii nedit
939 * ii ntfsprogs
* ii ntfstools
940 <! ii ntfsprogs-dev
1018 <! ii ruby
1019 <! ii ruby1.8
1089 <! ii tethereal

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Originally Posted by EmDee

Torrent available at: http://www.osnanet.de/dlubatz/knoppi...lt.iso.torrent

UPDATE: I will take the tracker down at 22:15 pm (CET), the 15th of september; fearing the electricity bill + dynamic IP will change soon, you know;)

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Could someone reseed this torrent please? Must have latest version of Knoppix! :D

EmDee wrote:

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Torrent available at: http://www.osnanet.de/dlubatz/knoppi...lt.iso.torrent

UPDATE: I will take the tracker down at 22:15 pm (CET), the 15th of september; fearing the electricity bill + dynamic IP will change soon, you know;)

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funkyrat wrote:

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Could someone reseed this torrent please? Must have latest version of Knoppix! :D

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The more immediate problem seems to be the tracker (supposedly at http://212.95.104.159:6969/announce) is already inaccessible...
I'd be willing to provide the initial seed for several days (well, at 30KB upload only, but it's something); alas, I don't have the file... :(
Ah well, guess we'll have to wait for the next public release then :lol:

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Originally Posted by groenewe

EmDee wrote:
Ah well, guess we'll have to wait for the next public release then :lol:

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No! Wait?! Say it ain't so!

Anyone willing to share the iso so we can upload a torrent to Suprnova or something?

It's slowly trickling down from E-donkey network ~3kB/s. Patience required. :roll:

i personally doubt 3.7 will be released anywhere else (like 3.5).

i have the .torrent above and was able to get the .iso in time.

if you would like to setup a tracker i will be more than happy to seed it provided you can leave the tracker up. i think my dhcp lease from SBC expires every 10 minutes otherwise i'd have one up here myself.

email my forum name @ yahoo

SO... this new version of knoppix wont be released for download? Some people in the US cant buy the magazine ya know LOL. Plus the torrent isnt up any more so how am i supposed to get it?!

So please can someone else seed it? send it to me over aim or something so i can upload it to my server? please contact me at [email protected]

Is it stll GPL or something has changed during my summer vacations?

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Originally Posted by spammehere1234

i personally doubt 3.7 will be released anywhere else (like 3.5).

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No offence, but I was hoping for an unofficial statement from someone on the Knoppix team. If you're downloading 3.7 with the rest of us, then I'd guess that you don't exactly have the inside scoop. ;-)

it has to be using the GPL if its using GNU and the linux kernel.

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Originally Posted by spammehere1234

i personally doubt 3.7 will be released anywhere else (like 3.5).

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No offence, but I was hoping for an unofficial statement from someone on the Knoppix team. If you're downloading 3.7 with the rest of us, then I'd guess that you don't exactly have the inside scoop. ;-)

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that's why i said "personally" ... as in it's just my opinion.

to me it just makes sense that a promotional edition the magazine may have paid for distribution rights to wouldn't be available through the standard channels. (just like the special linuxtag 3.5 dvd edition wasn't.) not to mention that the main Knoppix page announcing 3.7 as "Exclusive KNOPPIX Version 3.7 in PC-Welt magazine" makes the official position fairly plain.

Knoppix 3.7 ED2K link

hey guys, i just started a tracker for the torrent posted higher up on the page...
all you need to do is to change the tracker URL to this:

BAAAADDD!!!!! = http://placebis.net:6969/

[edit]ATTENTION: as explained in my next post in this thread, i have changed the tracker URL to http://placebis.net:6969/announce[/edit]

i currently don't have the ISO, so if someone who reads this has it could you please start seeding it with this new tracker please?

thanks!
uriahheep[/u]

Of course knoppix is GPL. But GPL says nothing on wich way you distribute the source code. A lot of commercial distribution don't offer the iso files for free downloading.
Additional Klaus Knopper needs also money to keep the project running, so I think he uses these exclusive publishings for fund raising. But at the end, we will get again a fine 3.8 version.
I didn't know exactly about the 3.7, but I know, that he put some software in 3.5 on demand of the publischer (c't computer mag. ). So he put additional gnome into 3.5 for example, but for his normal distributions he take only a single GUI and concentrate on tools for programming and network analysis.

I never thought about it that way.

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So he put additional gnome into 3.5 for example, but for his normal distributions he take only a single GUI and concentrate on tools for programming and network analysis.

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So your saying that 3.7 wont have programing tools? Thats why i love knoppix so much. Unlike other live cds knoppix is the only one that has programing utilities like gcc/g++ for programers like me. I needed something that alowed me to program on the go. Ive tryed mandrake move 2 but mandrake move doesnt have gcc or any networking tools, its useless.

For anyone who still can't grab it I should have a torrent up by tomorow afternoon (4 or 5PM EST) Should be alright speed

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So your saying that 3.7 wont have programing tools?

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No -- first of all I don't know, what they changed for the 3.7 exclusive, beside they put some firewall stuff on the cd. I didn't know, which firewall stuff -- the PC-Welt mag says only some maketing garbage. Second: Of course their was gcc on 3.5. As you say a Linux/Unix without gcc is useless. But not many additonal tools (as ddd for example). And so their will be gcc also on 3.7.

edit: And you can be sure that their will be a lot of programming tools on the next regulare 3.8 Knoppix, because Klaus Knopper said during a chat on the question, why he didn't include Gnome into the normal editions, that it is important for him to include a lot of programming stuff. So it depends on the demands of PC-Welt, how many programming stuff is included.

sorry for my bad english

You can find a official statement from Klaus Knopper on:
http://www.linuxforen.de/forums/show...4&page=1&pp=15

I think most of you don't understand German, so I try a translation:

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In this case the release (by the way exactly as for the c't special editions) is a "real" Knoppix, which (similar as for the LinuxTag-DVD-Edition 3.5 for the Linux Day 2004) is exclusive produced for PC-Welt along strict guidelines. The release is based on the public version 3.6, but has some new features, which are supposed to betray in the magazine, so I don't want to write alot about it ;-)

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So I think it will use the same Kernels as 3.6 ... but for more information you have to try it.

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Originally Posted by uriahheep

hey guys, i just started a tracker for the torrent posted higher up on the page...
all you need to do is to change the tracker URL to this:

http://placebis.net:6969/

i currently don't have the ISO, so if someone who reads this has it could you please start seeding it with this new tracker please?

thanks!
uriahheep

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i don't really know what i'm doing, but in azureus i right clicked, went to "add tracker url" and added the one above. the status is given as seeding, but nothing is happening connection wise... what's going on?

i'll leave it running but capped @ 10KB/s since i'm using eMule to share it on the other 30KB/s that i've got... and people there seem to be interested. if nothing's happening by the weekend i'll quit seeding the torrent.

The best way to get it right now is edonkey, im getting about 12kbs a second. It should be done in a day and a half of downloading. I kinda feel bad for downloading it since its exclusive for the magazine and all but i live in the US and its no possible way i could buy the magazine, so this is my only choice :(

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Originally Posted by uriahheep

hey guys, i just started a tracker for the torrent posted higher up on the page...
all you need to do is to change the tracker URL to this:

http://placebis.net:6969/ [XX--no more]

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ok i think i made a mistake while setting the torrent/tracker up, as this is the first time that i try to track a torrent... i may have fixed this problem, though, by changing the tracker URL to this:

http://placebis.net:6969/announce [XX--no more] [edit]YES MORE!![/edit]

just edit the tracker URL and add "announce" to the previous address. i think i've started to see a bit more action in my azureus console since i've made this change. anyway, best of luck!

later!
uriahheep

[edit]ok i brought the tracker back up. spammehere1234 should start seeding it whenever he wakes up :P[/edit]

Personally, I'm going to wait until it's been officially released and they release an updated bug-fixed version. It seems like they always release a "fixed" version a couple days after the initial release.

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Originally Posted by uriahheep

hey guys, i just started a tracker for the torrent posted higher up on the page...
all you need to do is to change the tracker URL to this:

http://placebis.net:6969/ [XX--no more]

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ok i think i made a mistake while setting the torrent/tracker up, as this is the first time that i try to track a torrent... i may have fixed this problem, though, by changing the tracker URL to this:

http://placebis.net:6969/announce [XX--no more] [edit]YES MORE!![/edit]

just edit the tracker URL and add "announce" to the previous address. i think i've started to see a bit more action in my azureus console since i've made this change. anyway, best of luck!

later!
uriahheep

[edit]ok i brought the tracker back up. spammehere1234 should start seeding it whenever he wakes up :P[/edit]

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i decided to split 40KB/s evenly between the eDonkey network / the Bittorrent tracker (recommended) since someone started using the torrent.

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Originally Posted by spammehere1234

i decided to split 40KB/s evenly between the eDonkey network / the Bittorrent tracker (recommended) since someone started using the torrent.

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spammehere1234, did you have any trouble connecting to the tracker? if so, could you please tell us how you came to succeeding in connecting? alot of people are telling me they're getting a "torrent unauthorised" error when trying to connect... this is really weird... anyway...

later!
uriahheep

[edit]FOR A FIXED VERSION OF THE TORRENT CLICK HERE: http://placebis.net:6969/torrents/kn...FB179A46C81AED[/edit]

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Originally Posted by uriahheep

spammehere1234, did you have any trouble connecting to the tracker? if so, could you please tell us how you came to succeeding in connecting? alot of people are telling me they're getting a "torrent unauthorised" error when trying to connect... this is really weird... anyway...

later!
uriahheep

[edit]FOR A FIXED VERSION OF THE TORRENT CLICK HERE: http://placebis.net:6969/torrents/kn...FB179A46C81AED[/edit]

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no problem whatsoever. and forget edonkey... takes way too long to get anything meaningful accomplished there. my upstream's going to this torrent for the weekend. thanks for setting up the tracker.

Im into the torrent so I should be able to seed in a few hours. :roll: Should I leave it open overnight or is that useless?

EDIT: im a torrent newbie but heres what i think is going on, after I download the torrent if I leave it open i can continue to share the file/my bandwith so others can get it at quicker speeds?

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Originally Posted by Jameson

EDIT: im a torrent newbie but heres what i think is going on, after I download the torrent if I leave it open i can continue to share the file/my bandwith so others can get it at quicker speeds?

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eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeexactly ;)

Downloading now... I'll be seeding roughly 40k/s tonight. Thanks guys.

Hi guys !

The french association Antesis.org http://www.antesis.org is providing FTP and WWW download for knoppix 3.7, here are the links:
ftp://ftp.antesis.org/livelinux/knoppix/
http://livelinux.antesis.org/knoppix/

Aurelix

ROFL!!!! :lol: oh my gosh!! ive been downloading this 3.7 for about a day and a half and now you post this link and its already almost done. very funny!

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ROFL!!!! :lol: oh my gosh!! ive been downloading this 3.7 for about a day and a half and now you post this link and its already almost done. very funny!

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Well, sorry :D !
Feel free to foward the link to everybody, as our mirror seems to be reliable for now :wink: