Ac97 detected, no sound

ac97 audio onboard an ASUSP4800 SE motherboard..
After looking through the directory of the MOBO cd/audio drivers I realized it had a directory for linux, but they look like source codes, which will give me a headache....The most "source code" ive been able to understand is the source to webpages..Compiling the kernel isnt gonna be pretty....

Im under XP right now but thinking about formatting/Reinstalling Knoppix to give it another shot....
The Sound Configuration utility picked up my Audio device automatically and said it was configured properly and played a test sound but I didnt hear anything.
I tried listening to a cd, with the volume raised and didnt hear anything,

I fianlly got so ticked off, after searching google for literally hours last night, that I reinstalled Xp.
I found lots of other people complaining about the same exact problem, Ac97 would be detected but would get no sound.
i read into ALSA for some time, only got really confused...i couldnt figure that out for the life of me.

Im about to reinstall knoppix, and dedicate my friday night to finding an answer to this.I loved working under knoppix/linux, I was already learning aliot, and had most of the most used commands down. It was going VERY smooth untill I went to listen to music and realized I had no sound.
Obviously sound in general is one of those things you cannot do without
:roll:

if anyone can help, Ill see to it myself that you be blessed

by the way the sound is up and not muted.,,, :wink:

here is the response from
dmesg |grep ac97
lsmod
lspci

in order

""
knoppix@ttyp1[knoppix]$ dmesg |grep ac97
ac97_codec: AC97 Audio codec, id: ADS117 (Unknown)
knoppix@ttyp1[knoppix]$ lsmod
Module Size Used by Not tainted
autofs4 8756 1 (autoclean)
af_packet 13544 0 (autoclean)
agpgart 42724 0 (unused)
i810_audio 25048 1
ac97_codec 11916 0 [i810_audio]
soundcore 3428 2 [i810_audio]
hw_random 2700 0 (unused)
serial 52100 0 (autoclean)
CDCEther 11200 1
acm 5312 0 (unused)
pcmcia_core 39840 0
thermal 6724 0 (unused)
processor 9008 0 [thermal]
fan 1600 0 (unused)
button 2700 0 (unused)
battery 5952 0
ac 1824 0
rtc 7036 0 (autoclean)
cloop 8740 2
ieee1394 183076 0
usb-storage 61760 0 (unused)
usb-uhci 21644 0 (unused)
usbcore 57600 1 [CDCEther acm usb-storage usb-uhci]
ataraid 6180 0
ide-scsi 8816 1
knoppix@ttyp1[knoppix]$ lspci
0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82865G/PE/P DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface (rev 02)
0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82865G/PE/P PCI to AGP Controller (rev 02)
0000:00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI #1 (rev 02)
0000:00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI #2 (rev 02)
0000:00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI #3 (rev 02)
0000:00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI #4 (rev 02)
0000:00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 02)
0000:00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801 PCI Bridge (rev c2)
0000:00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC Bridge (rev 02)
0000:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) Ultra ATA 100 Storage Controller (rev 02)
0000:00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) SMBus Controller (rev 02)
0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0343 (rev a1)
knoppix@ttyp1[knoppix]$

"""

You seem to have OSS instead of ALSA running. Have you tried booting with the alsa cheatcode?
What about kmix, is the sound muted there?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markus

You seem to have OSS instead of ALSA running. Have you tried booting with the alsa cheatcode?
What about kmix, is the sound muted there?

Kmix is the only I checked...is there another that could mute the enitre system sound?

What is the Alsa cheat code?

its entered at boot...?
That might be a good thing....

[EDIT]

Tried to boot with the following...
knoppix nodma alsa "Nodma to fix the "filesystem not found problem"

I also get this message, I should have included with this post before....
When I agree for the Soundcard config to overwrite the old file and re-write a new one I get the following error
"
Depmod:cant open /lib/modules/extra/modules.dep for writing
""
Then the utility tries to play a sound sample that I dont hear...

I am booting from the live cd, by the way....

Quote:

Originally Posted by greygooseplz

Kmix is the only I checked...is there another that could mute the enitre system sound?

With alsa you should also check aumix.

Quote:

What is the Alsa cheat code?
its entered at boot...?

Correct. For usage and options have a look at: http://www.knoppix.net/docs/index.php/CheatCodes

BTW, for a hdinstall the user should also be in the audio group, check with groups and if needed do:
sudo adduser username audio

To easily check if sound works do: play /usr/share/sounds/startup.ogg

EDIT: Your edit was faster than my post so...
What does lsmod look like with the alsa cheat?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markus

Quote:

Originally Posted by greygooseplz

Kmix is the only I checked...is there another that could mute the enitre system sound?

With alsa you should also check aumix.

Quote:

What is the Alsa cheat code?
its entered at boot...?

Correct. For usage and options have a look at: http://www.knoppix.net/docs/index.php/CheatCodes

BTW, for a hdinstall the user should also be in the audio group, check with groups and if needed do:
sudo adduser username audio

To easily check if sound works do: play /usr/share/sounds/startup.ogg

EDIT: Your edit was faster than my post so...
What does lsmod look like with the alsa cheat?

aumix was ok, volume was low but didnt make a difference.

Did you see the edit from my last post?

Quote:

Originally Posted by markus

="markus"]EDIT: Your edit was faster than my post so...
What does lsmod look like with the alsa cheat?

:roll:

"""
knoppix@ttyp1[knoppix]$ lsmod
Module Size Used by Not tainted
i810_audio 25048 2 (autoclean)
soundcore 3428 2 (autoclean) [i810_audio]
ac97_codec 11916 0 [i810_audio]
autofs4 8756 1 (autoclean)
af_packet 13544 0 (autoclean)
agpgart 42724 0 (unused)
hw_random 2700 0 (unused)
serial 52100 0 (autoclean)
CDCEther 11200 1
acm 5312 0 (unused)
pcmcia_core 39840 0
thermal 6724 0 (unused)
processor 9008 0 [thermal]
fan 1600 0 (unused)
button 2700 0 (unused)
battery 5952 0
ac 1824 0
rtc 7036 0 (autoclean)
cloop 8740 2
ieee1394 183076 0
usb-storage 61760 0 (unused)
usb-uhci 21644 0 (unused)
usbcore 57600 1 [CDCEther acm usb-storage usb-uhci]
ataraid 6180 0
ide-scsi 8816 1
"""

Quote:

Originally Posted by greygooseplz

Did you see the edit from my last post?

Yes, so what does lsmod look like with the alsa cheat?

You could also try the following cheat: knoppix26 alsa=intel8x0

BTW, you probably can't write to /lib/modules/extra/modules.dep due to booting from the cd.

EDIT: Hehe, we're posting too fast/slow.
It's still not using alsa, this is what it should look like:
snd_seq_oss 29184 0
snd_seq_midi_event 6272 1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq 46480 4 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_intel8x0 28620 1
snd_ac97_codec 62928 1 snd_intel8x0
snd_pcm_oss 46120 0
snd_mixer_oss 16000 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm 80264 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm_oss
snd_timer 20612 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc 7432 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
snd_mpu401_uart 5888 1 snd_intel8x0
snd_rawmidi 19620 1 snd_mpu401_uart
snd_seq_device 6280 3 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi
snd 43620 13 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,sn d_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu4 01_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device
soundcore 7264 1 snd

The snd_ modules are for alsa. So try: knoppix26 alsa=intel8x0

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markus

Quote:

Originally Posted by greygooseplz

Did you see the edit from my last post?

Yes, so what does lsmod look like with the alsa cheat?

You could also try the following cheat: knoppix26 alsa=intel8x0

BTW, you probably can't write to /lib/modules/extra/modules.dep due to booting from the cd.

check mylast post for lsmod...

does "knoppix26 alsa=intel8x0" need to be entered at the boot screen?

either way im trying it...

By the way, thanks alot man...appreciate it...

:o

Works!!!

I think it was the knoppix26 alas-intel8x0

man.....Dont even know how to say thanks to this one, but...thanks a million!You helped me in another of my posts....
One of the strogest points in Linux seems to be the community...Since Ive been on here (this past weekend) ive got nothing but great support, never once called a newbie

Man, This is one of those things thats had me already uninstall/reinstall two times...I cant run an OS without sound!

Ok, im about to reinstall to my HDD again ...How will i enter this code? i wont get that boot option again wil I....? I should know by now, as many times ive installed knoppix...

Quote:

Originally Posted by greygooseplz

:o

Works!!!

Glad to hear it.

Quote:

I think it was the knoppix26 alas-intel8x0

AFAICT knoppix seems to have recognised the i8x0 as ac97 instead.

Quote:

One of the strogest points in Linux seems to be the community...

I couldn't agree more.

Quote:

Ok, im about to reinstall to my HDD again ...How will i enter this code? i wont get that boot option again wil I....? I should know by now, as many times ive installed knoppix...

You should enter all the cheatcodes at boot when about to install to hd.
If alsa doesn't work anymore after the install try:
su
cd /etc/init.d
./alsa-autoconfig

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markus

Quote:

Originally Posted by greygooseplz

:o

Works!!!

Glad to hear it.

Quote:

I think it was the knoppix26 alas-intel8x0

AFAICT knoppix seems to have recognised the i8x0 as ac97 instead.

Quote:

One of the strogest points in Linux seems to be the community...

I couldn't agree more.

Quote:

Ok, im about to reinstall to my HDD again ...How will i enter this code? i wont get that boot option again wil I....? I should know by now, as many times ive installed knoppix...

You should enter all the cheatcodes at boot when about to install to hd.
If alsa doesn't work anymore after the install try:
su
cd /etc/init.d
./alsa-autoconfig

sound worked after HDD install without any work :wink:

I had to turn off CUPS printing though...I kinda guessed on it (NO CUPS) 8)
I kept getting a INIT :ID Respawning too fast disabled for five minutes...Over and over again...
Before I fixed that problem I booted with the 2.4 kernel, it worked but I had NO MOUSE...arggg!...
I tabbed my way to the forums typed thhat complete error from Cups and then couldnt "tab" onto the submit button :x

So i booted up with the live cd and the internet didnt work :x

So I just guessed on a few commands to disable CUPS and my second guess was NO CUPS, it worked...

I still got sound, at least....
now I cant figure out how to install any of my games/software...

http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_d..._1.0-4191.html

Which of those would I need...?

Quote:

Originally Posted by greygooseplz

I had to turn off CUPS printing though...I kinda guessed on it (NO CUPS) 8)
I kept getting a INIT :ID Respawning too fast disabled for five minutes...Over and over again...
Before I fixed that problem I booted with the 2.4 kernel, it worked but I had NO MOUSE...arggg!...

You could look at /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, at the top you'll find:
InputDevice "PS/2 Mouse" "CorePointer" or some such.
Look at the corresponding section lower down:
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "PS/2 Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
# Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2"
Option "Buttons" "7"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" ### /dev/psaux for 2.4.x
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
Option "Emulate3Timeout" "70"
Option "SendCoreEvents" "true"

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So i booted up with the live cd and the internet didnt work

Did you try running netcardconfig, looking at the output of ifconfig if the nic is eth0 you could try ifup eth0 and pump -i eth0

Quote:

So I just guessed on a few commands to disable CUPS and my second guess was NO CUPS, it worked...

To stop it do:
su
/etc/init.d/cupsys stop
To disable it from starting at bootup do:
update-rc.d -f cupsys remove

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now I cant figure out how to install any of my games/software...

Mostly you do this with apt: http://www.knoppix.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2638

Quote:

http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_d..._1.0-4191.html

Which of those would I need...?

I don't use nvidia but you can search this forum for nvidia and have a look at http://www.knoppix.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12061