maus geht nicht nach apt-get upgrade

Hallo,
ich habe vor einiger Zeit Knoppix 3.3 auf Festplatte installiert, bis
jetzt hat alles super geklappt, leider klappt seit dem letzten apt-get
upgrade meine Maus (logitech ps/2 wheelmouse) nicht mehr. Ich habe
bereits mouseconfig gestartet, jedoch klappt die Maus danach immernoch
nicht. Ebenso nach xf86config. Dann habe ich in google usw. nach einer
Loesung gesucht und dabei herausgefunden dass die Konfiguraton in
etc/X11/XF86Config gespeichert ist. Alledings hat mein System dort eine
XF86Config, eine XF86Config.in, eine XF86Config-4, eine XF86Config-4.in
und eine XF86Config-4.kxconfig.backup. Ist das normal? Leider benutze
ich linux noch nicht so lange. Ausserdem scheinen in etc/gpm.conf,
etc/sysconfig/knoppix und etc/sysconfig/mouse noch Einstellungen zur
Maus gespeichert zu sein. Welche der Dateien muss ich editieren, oder
gibt es sonst eine Moeglichkeit das zu reparieren? Im irc wurde mir im
knoppix channel gesagt dass es nach hd-install ein debian sei, im debian
channel wurde mir gesagt ich sollte im knoppix channel nachfragen ... oder
ich sollte wieder windows benutzen und andere Antworten die mir nicht
weiterhelfen. Im Moment bin ich wirklich kurz davor die Partition wieder zu ntfs zu
formatieren. Also falls ich hier auch wieder falsch sein sollte, weiss
evtl. jemand wo ich als Anfaenger noch Hilfe zu dem Problem finden kann?
In de.comp.os.unix.x11 hatte ich es auch schon versucht.
Danke Jan

Was hast du als Protocol in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4?
Mit ein cordless habe ich:
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "PS/2 Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "6 7" # "4 5"
Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
Option "Emulate3Timeout" "70"
Option "SendCoreEvents" "true"
EndSection

Versuch mal mit "Protocol" "ImPS/2" und mit "Device" "/dev/input/mice"

Jan, ich schreibe (und lese) auf Deutch doch schwer :oops: aber....

Knoppix ist für CD und die Installation auf Festplatte ist ein Hack, der keine Probleme oft verursachet.

Updaten ist auf Festplatte schwierig, weil drei Versione Debian in Knoppix enthalten sint. Mit einer CD ist es leicht: Einfach warten Sie auf neue Version auf der Website! :D

Natürlich, man kann neue Version auf Festplatte auch installieren. Aber Debian sarge ist auch einfach installieren und viel leichter updaten.

Quote:

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Ist das normal?

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Ich bin Amerikaner: Was ist normal? :D

-- Ed

Hi,
at first, sorry for writing german in an english forum, shame on me. Btw Ed, your german is pretty good :-). Thanks for your replies. Sofrom MArkus' reply I guess it's ok that there is also a XF86Config-4 and others besides the XF86Config in etc/X11. What I did now is restore all these files (all files in /etc/X11 that begin with XF86Config) from an image I created with partimage directly before I did the upgrade, when the mouse was still working (with copy/paste in an editor to prevent having wrong permissions or something when creating new files). The same I did with /etc/sysconfig/knoppix and /etc/sysconfig/mouse (when running the knoppix-mouseconfig once without being root, I saw that they were attempted to be changed). So now these files contain the same entries they contained when the device did work. But still it doesn't work now. When I tried to restore the content of etc/gpm.conf (which also was attempted to be changed by the knoppix-mouseconfig), I saw that in the old, working image there is no such file, instead ther is a gpm-root.conf. Maybe it has something to do with that? Additional, I remember when I did the upgrade I was asked something like "upgrade while gpm (or was it kdm? don't remember exactly) is running ... restart gpm (yes/no)". I tried both options already with the working image, also I performed the upgrade in console-mode without KDE running, there I also tried both options when I was asked if gpm should be restarted. But regardless which option I chose, after the next reboot the mouse was dead. Any ideas what else I could try? Maybe I really must install debian, because in irc everybody told me knoppix is not good for a hd-install. But at least it#s only the mouse that doesn't work, and it has been running now since knoppix 3.3 was released, and I did apt-get upgrade very often without any problem, I even dist-upgraded to testing and unstable and vice versa without any problems. Of course I always did apt-get update before upgrading.

What does "cat /proc/bus/input/devices" say about the mouse?

Hi,
cat /proc/bus/input/devices says "file or directory not found". There is no directory called input under /proc/bus:
root@box:/proc/bus# ls
ieee1394 pccard pci usb

But I'm sorry to say I don't know what this means :-/.

Ok, then what does dmesg say:
markus@mrk-fujibox:~$ dmesg|grep mice && dmesg|grep Mouse
mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
input: ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse on isa0060/serio1

Hi,
the whole dmesg output doesn't contain any string that contains "mouse" or "mice", neither "ps/2" or "input". I searched for it with grep and also with a text editor (case insensitive).
Greetings Jan

Hmm, new one for me that dmesg is lacking anything about a mouse.
What happens if you try a "modprobe psaux"? Can you see anything in dmesg then?
Have you got another mouse to test with?
How is your keyboard connected as it must work?
What do you have in these parts in /XF86Config-4?
Section "ServerLayout"
<snip>
InputDevice "PS/2 Mouse" "CorePointer"

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "PS/2 Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "6 7" # "4 5"
Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
Option "Emulate3Timeout" "70"
Option "SendCoreEvents" "true"
EndSection

Try disabling gpm. (And try Kanotix ;) ).

Hi,
thank's for your reply. When I try modprobe psaux it says "can't locate module psaux".
Today I also tried another mouse, but unfortunately I only got another logitech ps/2 wheelmouse.
My keyboard is connected via ps/2, too, but it didn't get messed up from the upgrade.
These are the sections in my XF86Config-4 (besides there are also sections "InputDevice" for an usb and serial mouse):

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "XFree86 Configured"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
InputDevice "PS/2 Mouse" "CorePointer"
# Serial Mouse not detected
# USB Mouse not detected
EndSection



Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "PS/2 Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "auto"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
Option "Emulate3Timeout" "70"
Option "SendCoreEvents" "true"
EndSection

But your hint to disable gpm was very good. In console mode I made killall gpm, then startx and the mouse worked until the next reboot.
Also, last night I (accidentally) found a workaround: When I log in and log off again, the mouse works in the loginscreen. If I log in again, it still works. So if I login twice, everything works fine :-). I guess there is a much better way to fix this than writing a script that logs on and off automatically after reboot? If you have an idea, please let me know, else I'll login twice, which is not too bad for me because I dont't reboot very often.
I tried Kanotix already, but was not able to install vmware, because of missing kernel modules... I know this can be fixed, but I think I'm not experienced enough for this. Maybe I'll try debian one day.
Greetings Jan

This will keep gpm from starting at bootup: update-rc.d -f gpm remove
If you want it back do: update-rc.d gpm defaults
Note that Debian based distros put the startuplinks back when a package gets upgraded so if you don't want to do the remove every time do: apt-get --purge remove gpm

For this: Option "Protocol" "auto"
You could also try: Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2"

If you for some reason want to use gpm try "dpkg-reconfigure gpm" and "/usr/sbin/gpm-mouse-test" and check /etc/gpm.conf

I just asked on #kanotix and the vmware modules can't be included due to the license but you can compile them against the kanotix kernel after getting the source with ./install-kernel-source-vanilla.sh

Hi,
that works :D. Also, without gpm now the fonts are more readable. So I don't need to make a new install, because it works now. Yeah, I really want to thank you for your help :!: Now I'll read some manpages and debian book to understand what I did. Thanks * 1000 !!!
Jan

You're welcome.