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So now that we've had some time to use it, I'm wondering what people think of version 5.0.1. Is it an improvemet over older versions, or a step backwards. Do you like the use of Xorg over Xfree86 or has it caused you problem, or both, or don't you even care? Have things worked for you in this version that didn't work before, or did things that you used to use now break? Is Knoppix 5.0.1 now you first choice for a Live disc, or an older version, or Kanotix, or some other Live disc?
need to add one catagory " too new to Knoppix to know" .
Knoppix 5.0.1 does so many things right that condemning it for a few problems isn't right.
Hobbiests have much to celebrate. There are gigabytes of great software that works. IS support staff will find it is an effective repair tool. In a pinch, it can be used as a server. There are lots of good things.
Unfortunately, there are problems that make 5.0.1 unsuitable for some of the purposes that Knoppix served well in the past. Since I can't use it as my primary home/office system, and since I can't pass it out for other people to try Linux, I can't recommend it for these purposes.
It's clear that my priorities are low priorities for the Knoppix team. The people that put this distro together are exceptionally talented and if, for example, they assigned a high priority to the ability to print formal documents, then it would happen, period.
How can I criticize Knoppix for not achieving something that was not intended to be achieved? I can't.
So I did not vote.
Overall 5.0.1 is fine, but for me personally, it is disappointment.
Good Day Folks,
While there is a lot of nice software. FUSE, which is what I was waiting on doen't seem to work. Since Knoppix is my main data recovery disk I moved back to 4.0.2, at least I could mount the HD, FUSE will not allow it. IT showed such promise though...
Be Well,
Captain Cautious
Though I'm using this latest version, I keep my old Knoppix CD on hand, too. Here are my pros/cons about Knoppix 5.0.1:
PROS:
* I like the extra skin included for XMMS. Yep, I'm really scraping for pros, here.
CONS:
* The fonts are awful. I had to change them all back to helvetica, to reduce eyestrain.
* Can't use the keyboard "Windows" key to open the K menu anymore...I need all the keyboard shortcuts I can get, to reduce pain in my wrists from mousing. (I suppose that's a KDE thing, though, as it's a newer version than the one on my other Knoppix CD.)
* I don't like Kaffeine as well as Xine
* Too many things now require one to log in as root...including configuring the printer! If it weren't for http://localhost:631/ , printer setup would be a pain.
* But the #1 worst part of the new Knoppix version is...the entire Help file is missing! ::jaw drops on keyboard, in shock::
Knoppix 5.01 makes me feel like I'm in another distro, y'know with all the applications requiring to be run as root AND when i'm root, i had to configure root to run applications that need the X server (or something to that effect). and my external modem could not be autodetected by KPPP (I tried almost all distros in distrowatch that has KDE3.5.x with it, and KPPP does not find my modem as opposed before KDE3.5.x).
I understand that we're only human to have some issues with our developed software, I have gotten passed those problems and I'm still okay with the Blinding Fast booting of Knoppix on my AMD64 box with all the nice applications and MP3 support (unlike the other distros that dropped all the good stuff in the name of Open source)! I wonder how good it'll be to have the DVD version... :P i just wish i can afford DSL... I look forward to a nicer installer (like the dapper drake's), but I don't lose hope on Knoppix!
it's just as difficult for the new-ish user as ever.
i have a desktop, but no way of configuring it.....
there is no kxconfig
no kdeconfig
and searching around x.org no list of how or what or where to change it
there is no /etc/X11 directory
and anytime I try the help in a window i get
There is no documentation available for xyz
I just want some little thing to work the way it should, so I could be confident with this stuff.
I've hard drive installed 5.0.1 from a CD
I'm not thrilled with 5.0.1 either, but your problems seem to be in either your expectations or a misunderstanding of what Knoppix is.Quote:
Originally Posted by marhleet
Broken !!!
v5.0.1 2006.06.01
prebuilt magazine dvd
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The knoppix-autoconfig file that runs at boot seems to be incomplete.
Such as, at the stage where it attempts to mount a knoppix.img file, there is no echo feed back, and, imediately afterwards it unmounts !!!
As a demo disc it is flawed.
As a recovery disc it misses out on the many possibilities that the flaws have denied.
As something to get into to seriously remaster ... well, ok, but its' release docs don't flag that you must, rather than you may.
Currently i'm working around it by editing the knoppix.sh script to get a sane persistant configuration that i can work with, with out having to go into a major remaster.
As other people have posted varying degrees of success, in getting the persistant knoppix.img file to process, The only thing i can think of as a cause, would be the build date versioning.
Other wise, a nice dvd in terms of potential. There is some nice content for demonstration. If a person can get to it.
10 to 12pxl tiny initial fonts as usual as well. Makes me wonder at times.
I certainly wouldn't recomend 5.0.1 to any body though, not anything beyond v4.0.
It makes an otherwise very good idea fall short.
I still wont give up on knoppix, for that reason though. :)
By the way, where's the 'vote' button ? (grin)
jm
doesn't work on toshiba tecra a4 1.73Ghz however love knoppix live cd 4.02 but doesn't connect to dial up internet. all knoppix compatriots be proud!!
dial wrote:
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doesn't work on toshiba tecra a4 1.73Ghz
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Wondering, what is the build date for the iso ...
jm
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Hi guys:
I am a newbie in Linux, I have the DVD 5.0.1 version, I do not know earliest versions and I am experiencing serious headache trying to understand how to configure all the peripherals, specially the HP printer, I dont know why isnt installed the CUPS; I downloaded the HPLIPS archive but when I am runing it ask for the g++ program, but where is it ?? Another thing is that at home the cable connection was complicated to achieve, (I dont have a router) I tryied using the same IP adress and same mask as the used in windows but didnt work, then one day I start Knoppix and voala something happend and was connected, when I revised the configuration the IP and the mask was totally different, why?? When I open the K menu appears thousands of new programs and I dont know what are they for, there are no instructive for most its really an adventure doing click and looking what happens.
Ive been looking here and there for answers to this little problems and learning more about this totally new OS for me.
PS: I am a Gynecologist and I have never been in a computer classroom
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Hi guys:
I am a newbie in Linux, I have the DVD 5.0.1 version, I do not know earliest versions and I am experiencing serious headache trying to understand how to configure all the peripherals, specially the HP printer, I dont know why isnt installed the CUPS; I downloaded the HPLIPS archive but when I am runing it ask for the g++ program, but where is it ?? Another thing is that at home the cable connection was complicated to achieve, (I dont have a router) I tryied using the same IP adress and same mask as the used in windows but didnt work, then one day I start Knoppix and voala something happend and was connected, when I revised the configuration the IP and the mask was totally different, why?? When I open the K menu appears thousands of new programs and I dont know what are they for, there are no instructive for most its really an adventure doing click and looking what happens.
Ive been looking here and there for answers to this little problems and learning more about this totally new OS for me.
PS: I am a Gynecologist and I have never been in a computer classroom
Hi all,
I'm a newbie. I have been using Knoppix 4.0 since around May 2006. I suppose it's a bit late posting now, but I thought it might be worth mentioning... :P
There are some things I can do in Knoppix 4.0 which I cannot in Knoppix 5.0.1. Firstly, I cannot compile the SpeedTouch USB drivers for the ADSL Speedtouch modem in 5.0. Thus, I cannot use the internet. Also, if I recall correctly, I cannot install graphics drivers (from the NVIDIA website) for my NVIDIA graphics card. These are the biggest 'niggles', but otherwise, it seems good.
(Note: I have always used the DVD edition.)
Does anyone know if these problems are fixed in Knoppix 5.1.1? I'll give 5.1 a try, anyway... adds to my collection ;)
Hi All,
Just wondering what's up with open office? Whenever I try to open a doc or a ppt with it I get into this whole registration procedure. Then, no mater what I do, open office never actually executes...
Regards,
AJG
My primary machine is an older Sony Vaio laptop. I've successfully used Knoppix from 3.4 on it, with cheat codes to get around the odd external PCMCIA Sony CD-ROM (nopcmcia ide2=0x180,0x386) but have had no success with the Knoppix 5.0.1, neither CD nor DVD. It appears they no longer support my video setup. . .or it is horribly broken :cry:
I've had to go back to Knoppix 4.0.2
My primary machine is an older Sony Vaio laptop. I've successfully used Knoppix from 3.4 on it, with cheat codes to get around the odd external PCMCIA Sony CD-ROM (nopcmcia ide2=0x180,0x386) but have had no success with the Knoppix 5.0.1, neither CD nor DVD. It appears they no longer support my video setup. . .or it is horribly broken :cry:
I've had to go back to Knoppix 4.0.2
My primary machine is an older Sony Vaio laptop. I've successfully used Knoppix from 3.4 on it, with cheat codes to get around the odd external PCMCIA Sony CD-ROM (nopcmcia ide2=0x180,0x386) but have had no success with the Knoppix 5.0.1, neither CD nor DVD. It appears they no longer support my video setup. . .or it is horribly broken :cry:
I've had to go back to Knoppix 4.0.2
My primary machine is an older Sony Vaio laptop. I've successfully used Knoppix from 3.4 on it, with cheat codes to get around the odd external PCMCIA Sony CD-ROM (nopcmcia ide2=0x180,0x386) but have had no success with the Knoppix 5.0.1, neither CD nor DVD. It appears they no longer support my video setup. . .or it is horribly broken :cry:
I've had to go back to Knoppix 4.0.2
I'm a total newbie.....so,
version 4.0 detected all my hardware correctly....3 drives, cd, ethernet, firewire, usb, sound card. No cheats required at all. Usb thumb drive detected on boot. My Viewsonic PS790 is detected also.
version 5.1.1 finds the hard drives and cd and sound card, and they all work. But the firewire is assigned to "eth0", and "eth1" to the ethernet adapter. And neither of them function. thumb drive undetected, cannot install.
My Ati Radeon 9550 loads with an Xorg(ati)server with only 1024x768 max resolution. If I use the Radeon cheat code, full resolution is available. My monitor is "unknown" in 5.1.1.
Since version 4.0 works great, and 5.1.1 barely functions, it would seem likely that someone smarter than me could compare data from the two, and come up with some fixes. If anyone could tell me what data to collect, and who would be interested in it, I'll go get it.
Bill