Recognizing thumbdrive....

Hey all..

Ok I've got a small issue with Untangle recognizing my thumbdrive.. which yes I know this is a Knoppix board, however from all that I can see in the console, it's running on a form of Knoppix at least. And just so you know my knowledge of Linux is limited so excuse me if my questions seems noobish.

Anyway how can I see/check/verify whether or not my distro is recognizing my thumbdrive?

Below is my entire contents of "lspci -v"
Any help is appreciated...

/ # lspci -v [root @ untangle]
0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE/PE DRAM Controll er/Host-Hub Interface (rev 03)
Subsystem: Super Micro Computer Inc: Unknown device 3680
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
Memory at d0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
Capabilities: [e4] #09 [4105]

0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Ch ipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [VGA])
Subsystem: Super Micro Computer Inc: Unknown device 3680
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 18
Memory at e0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
Memory at e8300000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512K]
Capabilities: [d0] Power Management version 1

0000:00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) US B UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
Subsystem: Super Micro Computer Inc: Unknown device 3680
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 18
I/O ports at b800 [size=32]

0000:00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) US B UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
Subsystem: Super Micro Computer Inc: Unknown device 3680
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 19
I/O ports at b000 [size=32]

0000:00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) US B UHCI Controller #3 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
Subsystem: Super Micro Computer Inc: Unknown device 3680
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16
I/O ports at b400 [size=32]

0000:00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-M) USB 2.0 EHCI Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 20 [EHCI])
Subsystem: Super Micro Computer Inc: Unknown device 3680
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 17
Memory at e8380000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K]
Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2

0000:00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 82) (prog-if 00 [Norm al decode])
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=32
I/O behind bridge: 0000a000-0000afff
Memory behind bridge: e8000000-e82fffff
Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 80000000-800fffff

0000:00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL (ICH4/ICH4-L) LPC Bridge (rev 0 2)
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0

0000:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL (ICH4/ICH4-L) UltraATA-100 I DE Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP])
Subsystem: Super Micro Computer Inc: Unknown device 3680
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16
I/O ports at <ignored>
I/O ports at <ignored>
I/O ports at <ignored>
I/O ports at <ignored>
I/O ports at cc00 [size=16]
Memory at e8381000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K]

0000:00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) SMBus Contr oller (rev 02)
Subsystem: Super Micro Computer Inc: Unknown device 3680
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 12
I/O ports at 0500 [size=32]

0000:01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro 100] (rev 08)
Subsystem: Intel Corp. EtherExpress PRO/100+ Management Adapter
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 20
Memory at e8240000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
I/O ports at a000 [size=64]
Memory at e8000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1M]
Expansion ROM at 80000000 [disabled] [size=1M]
Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 2

0000:01:05.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82540EM Gigabit Ethernet Controlle r (rev 02)
Subsystem: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 004e
Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 21
Memory at e8200000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=128K]
I/O ports at a400 [size=64]
Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 2
Capabilities: [e4] PCI-X non-bridge device.
Capabilities: [f0] Message Signalled Interrupts: 64bit+ Queue=0/0 Enable -

0000:01:06.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82540EM Gigabit Ethernet Controlle r (rev 02)
Subsystem: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 004e
Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 17
Memory at e8220000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=128K]
I/O ports at a800 [size=64]
Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 2
Capabilities: [e4] PCI-X non-bridge device.
Capabilities: [f0] Message Signalled Interrupts: 64bit+ Queue=0/0 Enable -

/ # [root @ untangle]

lspci lists the devices on your pci bus, lsusb lists those found on the usb .

Ahhh thank you very much.. I had posted those lspci results since the topic subject field said to. I will get the lsusb results later today. TY

Wow... ok well when I try "lsusb" i get a command not found... shouldnt that just be part of the distro? Or could i apt-get something to add it?

Hmm, what version of Knoppix ? I'm using 5.1 and the output of lsusb is, in this case:

Code:

knoppix@Knoppix:~$ lsusb Bus 005 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 003 Device 002: ID 03f0:2f11 Hewlett-Packard Bus 003 Device 003: ID 0572:1280 Conexant Systems (Rockwell), Inc. Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000

You might also be able to see something in Kinfocenter: K->System->Kinfocenter and click on USB Devices.

well that would be an excellent question.. what cmd is it to show the version(s)?

Look at the splash when you boot up the cd , the version number usually is displayed.

Alternatively, the output of : uname -r (from a shell) , will give you the kernel that is in use, and that might help.

How did you aquire the Knoppix your using?

try

Code:

sudo lsusb

Quote:

Originally Posted by rusty

Look at the splash when you boot up the cd , the version number usually is displayed.

Alternatively, the output of : uname -r (from a shell) , will give you the kernel that is in use, and that might help.

How did you aquire the Knoppix your using?

As indicated above, this is a "hardened Knoppix distro" that's running Untangle.. (www.untangle.com) I came here with this question because I couldn't find any help on their forums, and being that this is obviously an OS level issue that I needed help working around, I figured this was the best place to come to. From all evidence I've read there, this is either Knoppix or Debian. But I wouldn't think the two would be totally different with regards to either simple commands or even config files. However I've been wrong before...

Ok so uname -r returns with:
/ # uname -r [root @ untangle]
2.6.16-ck11-untangle-cd-486
/ #

I missed the Untangle part, sorry.

It's possible that Untangle does not contain drivers, utilities etc. for USB. If you can't get an answer to the problem from Untangle's forums, we probably can't help much here.

Without getting into the technical issues here, it might be worthwhile for you to consider downloading a livecd linux distro (Knoppix itself of course, but there a others).

A couple of links:

http://distrowatch.com/

http://packages.debian.org/unstable/utils/usbutils

Regards...

Quote:

Originally Posted by rusty

It's possible that Untangle does not contain drivers, utilities etc. for USB. Regards...

Not totally true.. within the web interface gui there's a backup utility that among it's choices are local file, or USB. From the few response I've gotten the USB option is specifically for thumbdrives, however like I mentioned before since it seems this is an OS issue rather than an Untangle issue specifically as the error I get says tha it cannot locate the USb device. I figured maybe the folks who do the majority of the posting there don't have a ton of pure Linux experience. Which again led me here.. by my reckoning I assumed that maybe if I could get some Linux assistance is trying to determine if my thumbdrive is even being recognized, then maybe I'd have more ammo to go back to Untangle with this is a bug report possibly..

If the distro ships with apt , then see if you can install usbutils. As root , get a command line shell and type:

Code:

apt-get update && apt-get install usbutils

If that works, you should be able to type: lsusb and see your device, or not.

Another thing to try is to determine whether usb drivers are running by typing: lsmod|grep usb , the output of which might look like this:

Code:

knoppix@Knoppix:~$ lsmod|grep usb usblp 18432 0 usb_storage 73408 0 usbhid 56928 0 ff_memless 9992 1 usbhid libusual 20624 1 usb_storage usbcore 135812 9 cdc_acm,usblp,usb_storage,usbhid,libusual,ohci_hcd,uhci_hcd,ehci_hcd

You can of course read the fine manual pages for the commands to see what they do by typing: man <command>, at a prompt. ie. man lsmod or man grep.