Knoppix 3.3 will not mount HD on a Toshiba Laptop

I have a Toshiba Portege 4010.
On v3.2 it boots and everything works fine, the HD will mount from the desktop icon.
On v3.3 it boots and will hang at "creating /etc/fstab", even on the failsafe option.
I can get past this if I specify the DMA cheatcode, it will boot to the desktop but not create a desktop icon for /dev/hda1.

Any help would be great. Information follows:

fdisk -l reports
/dev/hda1 -----> HPFS/NTFS

mount -t ntfs (or vfat) /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 returns
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1,
or too many mounted file systems
(could this be the IDE device where you in fact use
ide-scsi so that sr0 or sda or so is needed?)

I tried modprobe ntfs then mount, but this had no effect.

I also disabled the Configured by OS option in the BIOS.

I have tried many combinations of boot options and nothing helps.
This is a list of ones I have tried:
noscsi noapic idebus=66 ide0=ata66 ide1=ata66 nosmp pci=bios irq=bios failsafe

I was able to get to the desktop and it would show the HD icon when I used this boot config:
nousb nopcmcia nofirewire noscsi nosmp noapic idebus=66 ide0=ata66 ide1=ata66

When it tried to mount from the icon it gave an Input/Output error.

Here is the output from dmesg:

Linux version 2.4.22-xfs (root@Knoppix) (gcc version 2.95.4 20011002 (Debian prerelease)) #1 SMP Fr Sep 19 17:55:45 CEST 2003
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 000000000009fc00 (usable)
BIOS-e820: 000000000009fc00 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved)
BIOS-e820: 00000000000e0000 - 00000000000eee00 (reserved)
BIOS-e820: 00000000000eee00 - 00000000000ef000 (ACPI NVS)
BIOS-e820: 00000000000ef000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved)
BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 000000001ef60000 (usable)
BIOS-e820: 000000001ef60000 - 000000001ef70000 (ACPI data)
BIOS-e820: 000000001ef70000 - 0000000020000000 (reserved)
BIOS-e820: 00000000fff80000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved)
0MB HIGHMEM available.
495MB LOWMEM available.
On node 0 totalpages: 126816
zone(0): 4096 pages.
zone(1): 122720 pages.
zone(2): 0 pages.
Kernel command line: ramdisk_size=100000 init=/etc/init lang=us apm=power-off hda=scsi hdb=scsi hdc=scsi hdd=scsi hde=scsi hdf=scsi hdg=scsi hdh=scsi vga=791 initrd=miniroot.gz nomce quiet BOOT_IMAGE=knoppix BOOT_IMAGE=vmlinuz alsa dma
ide_setup: hda=scsi
ide_setup: hdb=scsi
ide_setup: hdc=scsi
ide_setup: hdd=scsi
ide_setup: hde=scsi
ide_setup: hdf=scsi
ide_setup: hdg=scsi
ide_setup: hdh=scsi
Local APIC disabled by BIOS -- reenabling.
Found and enabled local APIC!
Initializing CPU#0
Detected 929.552 MHz processor.
Console: colour dummy device 80x25
Calibrating delay loop... 1854.66 BogoMIPS
Memory: 498008k/507264k available (1262k kernel code, 8868k reserved, 534k data, 132k init, 0k highmem)
Dentry cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 7, 524288 bytes)
Inode cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
Mount cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes)
Buffer cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes)
Page-cache hash table entries: 131072 (order: 7, 524288 bytes)
CPU: L1 I cache: 16K, L1 D cache: 16K
CPU: L2 cache: 512K
CPU: After generic, caps: 0383fbff 00000000 00000000 00000000
CPU: Common caps: 0383fbff 00000000 00000000 00000000
Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done.
Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
Checking for popad bug... OK.
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
mtrr: v1.40 (20010327) Richard Gooch ([email protected])
mtrr: detected mtrr type: Intel
CPU: L1 I cache: 16K, L1 D cache: 16K
CPU: L2 cache: 512K
CPU: After generic, caps: 0383fbff 00000000 00000000 00000000
CPU: Common caps: 0383fbff 00000000 00000000 00000000
CPU0: Intel Mobile Intel(R) Pentium(R) III CPU - M 933MHz stepping 04
per-CPU timeslice cutoff: 1462.49 usecs.
SMP motherboard not detected.
enabled ExtINT on CPU#0
ESR value before enabling vector: 00000000
ESR value after enabling vector: 00000000
Using local APIC timer interrupts.
calibrating APIC timer ...
..... CPU clock speed is 929.5815 MHz.
..... host bus clock speed is 132.7971 MHz.
cpu: 0, clocks: 1327971, slice: 663985
CPU0<T0:1327968,T1:663968,D:15,S:663985,C:1327971>
Waiting on wait_init_idle (map = 0x0)
All processors have done init_idle
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfe5ae, last bus=5
PCI: Using configuration type 1
PCI: Probing PCI hardware
PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00)
PCI: Using IRQ router ALI [10b9/1533] at 00:07.0
PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 00:10.0
PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 01:00.0
PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 00:11.0
PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 00:12.0
PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 00:11.1
isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards...
isapnp: No Plug & Play device found
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
Initializing RT netlink socket
Starting kswapd
VFS: Disk quotas vdquot_6.5.1
vesafb: framebuffer at 0xfc000000, mapped to 0xdf80d000, size 3072k
vesafb: mode is 1024x768x16, linelength=2048, pages=9
vesafb: protected mode interface info at c000:780a
vesafb: scrolling: redraw
vesafb: directcolor: size=0:5:6:5, shift=0:11:5:0
Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 128x48
fb0: VESA VGA frame buffer device
pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M, fd1 is 1.44M
floppy0: no floppy controllers found
RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 100000K size 1024 blocksize
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00beta4-2.4
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
ALI15X3: IDE controller at PCI slot 00:04.0
ALI15X3: chipset revision 195
ALI15X3: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xeff0-0xeff7, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xeff8-0xefff, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:pio
hda: IC25N030ATCS04-0, ATA DISK drive
hdc: HL-DT-STDVD-ROM GDR8081N, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
hda: attached ide-disk driver.
hda: host protected area => 1
hda: 58605120 sectors (30006 MB) w/1768KiB Cache, CHS=3648/255/63
ide-cd: passing drive hdc to ide-scsi emulation.
hdc: attached ide-scsi driver.
Partition check:
hda: unknown partition table
ide: late registration of driver.
Promise Fasttrak(tm) Softwareraid driver 0.03beta: No raid array found
Highpoint HPT370 Softwareraid driver for linux version 0.02
Guestimating sector 58604095 for superblock
driver for Silicon Image(tm) Medley(tm) hardware version 0.0.1: No raid array found
SCSI subsystem driver Revision: 1.00
scsi0 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices
Vendor: HL-DT-ST Model: DVD-ROM GDR8081N Rev: 0010
Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 10x/24x cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12
Initializing Cryptographic API
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP, IGMP
IP: routing cache hash table of 4096 buckets, 32Kbytes
TCP: Hash tables configured (established 32768 bind 32768)
NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0.
RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
Freeing initrd memory: 481k freed
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
NCR53c406a: no available ports found
aec671x_detect:
scsi: <fdomain> Detection failed (no card)
GDT: Storage RAID Controller Driver. Version: 2.05
GDT: Found 0 PCI Storage RAID Controllers
megaraid: v1.18f (Release Date: Tue Dec 10 09:54:39 EST 2002)
megaraid: no BIOS enabled.
DC390: 0 adapters found
Failed initialization of WD-7000 SCSI card!
ISO 9660 Extensions: Microsoft Joliet Level 3
kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k nls_iso8859-1, errno = 2
kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k nls_iso8859-1, errno = 2
ISO 9660 Extensions: RRIP_1991A
cloop: Initializing cloop v1.02
cloop: /cdrom/KNOPPIX/KNOPPIX: 29246 blocks, 65536 bytes/block, largest block is 65562 bytes.
cloop: loaded (max 8 devices)
ISO 9660 Extensions: RRIP_1991A
Freeing unused kernel memory: 132k freed
Real Time Clock Driver v1.10e
apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x02 (Driver version 1.16)
Linux Kernel Card Services 3.1.22
options: [pci] [cardbus] [pm]
PCI: Enabling device 00:10.0 (0000 -> 0002)
PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 00:10.0
PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 01:00.0
PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 00:11.0
PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 00:12.0
PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 00:11.1
Yenta IRQ list 0000, PCI irq11
Socket status: 30000010
ti113x: Routing card interrupts to PCI
Yenta IRQ list 06b8, PCI irq11
Socket status: 30000007
Yenta IRQ list 06b8, PCI irq11
Socket status: 30000007
cs: IO port probe 0x0c00-0x0cff: clean.
cs: IO port probe 0x0820-0x08ff: clean.
cs: IO port probe 0x0800-0x080f: clean.
cs: IO port probe 0x0100-0x04ff: excluding 0x378-0x37f 0x3f8-0x3ff 0x408-0x40f 0x480-0x48f 0x4d0-0x4d7
cs: IO port probe 0x0a00-0x0aff: clean.
cs: memory probe 0xa0000000-0xa0ffffff: clean.
hermes.c: 4 Dec 2002 David Gibson <[email protected]>
orinoco.c 0.13b (David Gibson <[email protected]> and others)
orinoco_cs.c 0.13b (David Gibson <[email protected]> and others)
eth0: Station identity 001f:0001:0008:000a
eth0: Looks like a Lucent/Agere firmware version 8.10
eth0: Ad-hoc demo mode supported
eth0: IEEE standard IBSS ad-hoc mode supported
eth0: WEP supported, 104-bit key
eth0: MAC address 00:02:2D:80:8D:AF
eth0: Station name "HERMES I"
eth0: ready
eth0: index 0x01: Vcc 3.3, irq 11, io 0x0100-0x013f
usb.c: registered new driver usbdevfs
usb.c: registered new driver hub
usb-uhci.c: $Revision: 1.275 $ time 18:09:24 Sep 19 2003
usb-uhci.c: High bandwidth mode enabled
usb-uhci.c: v1.275:USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver
PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 00:02.0
usb-ohci.c: USB OHCI at membase 0xdfbcc000, IRQ 11
usb-ohci.c: usb-00:02.0, ALi Corporation USB 1.1 Controller
usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
hub.c: USB hub found
hub.c: 2 ports detected
usbdevfs: remount parameter error
Serial driver version 5.05c (2001-07-08) with MANY_PORTS SHARE_IRQ SERIAL_PCI ISAPNP enabled
ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778) [PCSPP,TRISTATE]
parport0: irq 7 detected
eepro100.c:v1.09j-t 9/29/99 Donald Becker http://www.scyld.com/network/eepro100.html
eepro100.c: $Revision: 1.36 $ 2000/11/17 Modified by Andrey V. Savochkin <[email protected]> and others
PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 00:0a.0
PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 00:0c.0
eth1: OEM i82557/i82558 10/100 Ethernet, 00:08:0D:75:D3:0C, IRQ 11.
Board assembly 000000-000, Physical connectors present: RJ45
Primary interface chip i82555 PHY #1.
General self-test: passed.
Serial sub-system self-test: passed.
Internal registers self-test: passed.
ROM checksum self-test: passed (0xb874c1d3).
Linux agpgart interface v0.99 (c) Jeff Hartmann
agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 424M
agpgart: Detected Ali M1644 chipset
agpgart: AGP aperture is 64M @ 0xf0000000
PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 00:06.0
blk: queue c0334960, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0xffffffff)
FAT: bogus logical sector size 64543
VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev 03:00.
FAT: bogus logical sector size 64543
VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev 03:00.
NTFS driver v1.1.22 [Flags: R/W MODULE]
Journalled Block Device driver loaded
VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev ide0(3,0).
VFS: Can't find ext2 filesystem on dev ide0(3,0).
Unable to identify CD-ROM format.
sh-2021: reiserfs_read_super: can not find reiserfs on ide0(3,0)
FAT: bogus logical sector size 64543
VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev 03:00.
SGI XFS snapshot 2.4.22-2003-09-03_04:09_UTC with ACLs, realtime, no debug enabled
SGI XFS Quota Management subsystem
XFS: bad magic number
XFS: SB validate failed
VFS: Can't find a Minix or Minix V2 filesystem on device 03:00.
VFS: Can't find a HFS filesystem on dev 03:00.
EFS: 1.0a - http://aeschi.ch.eu.org/efs/

I have the same with a Toshiba Satellite Pro 6000.
If you try 'cat /proc/partitions' inside a shell you'll see, that the kernel doesn't recognise the partitions on the hd.
This behaviour on Toshiba laptops started with the Knoppix V3.2 DVD edition (2003-07-10) and later. Beginning with this Knoppix release the kernel 2.4.21 was used. I found out that on Toshiba laptops all Knoppix versions with Linux kernel up to 2.4.20 work great but none with a higher kernel.
I guess this problem is not related to Knoppix but to the kernel.
Sorry, but I haven't found a solution until now. Even a BIOS update didn't change anything. So on my Toshiba laptop I still use Knoppix 3.2 2003-06-06 (the last working version).
If you find a solution, please let me know.

Forgive me...I'm new to Knoppix (though very experienced with RedHat). I've looked around the mirrors...where can I download this 06-06-2003 version of Knoppix so I can use it on my Toshiba laptop?

Answered my own question: I found it at http://www.fhh.opensource-mirror.de/knoppix/

Hope this helps somebody...

I have a Toshiba Satellite with a HD install of Knoppix 3.3 and everything works great. Better, in fact, than any other distro I have tried to install on it. It even works with the internal wireless card (orinoco) that windows refuses to work with.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Lamont

I have a Toshiba Satellite with a HD install of Knoppix 3.3 and everything works great. Better, in fact, than any other distro I have tried to install on it. It even works with the internal wireless card (orinoco) that windows refuses to work with.

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Yep, some Toshibas seem to work with the Knoppix V3.3. A college of me has a Toshiba Sattelite pro 6100 and can boot Knoppix V3.3 witout any IDE/harddisk problems. So the Toshis may vary.

Greets
sturmmoewe

I have tried just about everything and i would like to download knoppix 3.2 from 03.06.06 since that seems to be the latest one working on toshiba laptops. Could anyone give me a hint on where to find it?

Quote:

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Originally Posted by digge

I have tried just about everything and i would like to download knoppix 3.2 from 03.06.06 since that seems to be the latest one working on toshiba laptops. Could anyone give me a hint on where to find it?

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This site still has it laying around I was getting 150k/s when I just tried to download it here which is the max of my connection so it should be a speedy enough to download as well.

http://ftp.unicamp.br/pub/linux/iso/knoppix/

Thx ;) i now have my knoppix upp and running on my laptop, question is do i dare to change the kernel ;)

From the original printout:

hda: IC25N030ATCS04-0, ATA DISK drive
hdc: HL-DT-STDVD-ROM GDR8081N, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
hda: attached ide-disk driver.
hda: host protected area => 1
hda: 58605120 sectors (30006 MB) w/1768KiB Cache, CHS=3648/255/63
ide-cd: passing drive hdc to ide-scsi emulation.
hdc: attached ide-scsi driver.
Partition check:
hda: unknown partition table
ide: late registration of driver.

The last line may be a clue - if the ide-scsi driver is late registering drive hdc, the request for partition information from hda may not be being processed in time - note the ide-scsi driver has identified the hda drive size parameters (5 lines up), so communication is operational, but it seems to be busy with hdc, the CDROM-DVD. Is it possible there is a race condition, with the combination of the hard drive and the CDROM/DVD?

Anybody able to compare the HD and CDROM combinations in Toshibas that work, with those that don't?

This is still an issue with Knoppix 3.6-2004-08-16 on Toshiba laptop. Even tried 2.6 Kernel.

It boots fine with default startup but no Hard Drives. hda: unknown partition table still displays.

I am still trying to get the 2003-06-06 version downloaded,

Using NODMA NOSCSI bootup options stalls the boot totally at "creating /etc/fstab"

Anyone found a workaround with the later versions of Knoppix for Toshiba Laptops?

JP

if you just get into knoppix then its no problem. Then just have hdparm reread the partitiontable and then you can mount your drives, think its something like hdparm -z hda but better look that up cause im not shure.