Now what have I done? Lost KDE panel (sort of)

I was trying to update kmail (apt-get -t unstable install kmail)

it showed that a number of other packages would be installed, none of which looked bad, so I typed yes and got a lot of dependency problem messages.

Now when I try to use any of my taskbar buttons I get cannot find service error message from KDE panel. When I click on the K I get none of the familiar choices there, just logout, run command and a faint "no entries"

I think that I hosed a bunch of symlinks somewhere, is there a quick way to get it all back?
TIA

PS

Code:

root@toybox:~# apt-cache policy kde kde: Installed: (none) Candidate: 4:3.1.2 Version Table: 4:3.1.2 0 990 http://ftp2.de.debian.org testing/main Packages 500 http://ftp2.de.debian.org unstable/main Packages 4:2.2.25 0 500 http://ftp2.de.debian.org stable/main Packages W: Couldn't stat source package list http://non-us.debian.org ./ Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/non-us.debian.org_%7ekitame_mozilla_._Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list http://people.debian.org sid/i386/ Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/people.debian.org_%7ebranden_packages_sid_i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)

Should I apt-get kde and see if it installs and finds everything?

Edit the /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out (put a # character in front of the line) for the people.debian and kitame lines that are in the file then apt-get update and now try to use apt if you get more errors then comment those lines out as well. It sounds like you have part of KDE 3.2 and 3.1 installed at the same time use COLUMNS=125 dpkg -l | grep 3.1.[345] to find what you have installed for 3.1 and COLUMNS=125 dpkg -l | grep 3.2.1 for the 3.2 and either downgrade to 3.1 packages or upgrade to the 3.2 packages.

Thanks Stephen,

The origynal hd install was knoppix 3.3, anyway I did uncomment and try upgrade and managed to zap jkdm pretty much out of the water. The machine boots up in text mode, I invoke kdm (not found) so xdm and ICEWM for now.

Now, would it be a good idea at this time to apt-get remove (Purge?) kde and then attemt a reinstall or might I lose application settings, data or the like.

OTOH, this might be an opportunity to check out some other GUIs

Thanks again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rusty

Now, would it be a good idea at this time to apt-get remove (Purge?) kde and then attemt a reinstall or might I lose application settings, data or the like.

OTOH, this might be an opportunity to check out some other GUIs

Thanks again.

You can still check out the other managers and have KDE installed. You do not really need to purge to get back to where you were here is what I have installed.

Code:

>$ COLUMNS=125 dpkg -l | grep 3.2.1 ii ark 3.2.1-1 KDE archiving tool ii juk 3.2.1-1 music organizer and player for KDE ii kaddressbook 3.2.1-1 KDE NG addressbook application ii kalarm 3.2.1-1 KDE alarm message and command scheduler ii kappfinder 3.2.1-1 KDE Application Finder ii kate 3.2.1-1 KDE Advanced Text Editor ii kcalc 3.2.1-1 KDE calculator ii kcharselect 3.2.1-1 KDE character selector ii kcontrol 3.2.1-1 KDE Control Center ii kdeartwork 3.2.1-1 themes, styles and more from the official KDE release ii kdeartwork-misc 3.2.1-1 various multimedia goodies released with KDE ii kdeartwork-style 3.2.1-1 widget styles released with KDE ii kdeartwork-theme-desktop 3.2.1-1 Dummy upgrade package for official KDE desktop themes ii kdeartwork-theme-icon 3.2.1-1 icon themes released with KDE ii kdeartwork-theme-window 3.2.1-1 window decoration themes released with KDE ii kdebase 3.2.1-1 KDE Base metapackage ii kdebase-bin 3.2.1-1 KDE Base (binaries) ii kdebase-data 3.2.1-1 KDE Base (shared data) ii kdebase-kio-plugins 3.2.1-1 KDE I/O Slaves ii kdelibs 3.2.1-1 KDE core libraries metapackage ii kdelibs-bin 3.2.1-1 KDE core binaries ii kdelibs-data 3.2.1-1 KDE core shared data ii kdelibs4 3.2.1-1 KDE core libraries ii kdelirc 3.2.1-1 KDE infrared control ii kdemultimedia-kio-plugins 3.2.1-1 Support for browsing audio CDs under Konqueror ii kdepasswd 3.2.1-1 KDE password changer ii kdeprint 3.2.1-1 KDE Print ii kdesktop 3.2.1-1 KDE Desktop ii kdessh 3.2.1-1 KDE ssh frontend ii kdeutils 3.2.1-1 KDE Utilities metapackage ii kdewallpapers 3.2.1-1 wallpapers released with KDE ii kdf 3.2.1-1 KDE disk free ii kdm 3.2.1-1 KDE Display Manager ii kedit 3.2.1-1 KDE text editor ii kfind 3.2.1-1 KDE File Find Utility ii kfloppy 3.2.1-1 KDE floppy formatter ii kget 3.2.1-1 KDE Download Manager ii kghostview 3.2.1-1 PostScript viewer for KDE ii kgpg 3.2.1-1 GnuPG frontend for KDE ii khelpcenter 3.2.1-1 KDE Help Center ii khexedit 3.2.1-1 KDE hex editor ii kicker 3.2.1-1 KDE Desktop Panel ii kjots 3.2.1-1 KDE note taking utility ii klaptopdaemon 3.2.1-1 KDE battery monitoring and management for laptops ii klipper 3.2.1-1 KDE Clipboard ii kmail 3.2.1-1 KDE Email client ii kmenuedit 3.2.1-1 KDE Menu Editor ii kmilo 3.2.1-1 KDE kded hardware support module ii kmix 3.2.1-1 KDE based mixer app ii knode 3.2.1-1 KDE news reader ii knotes 3.2.1-1 KDE Notes ii kompare 3.2.1-1 a KDE GUI for viewing differences between files ii konq-plugins 3.2.1-1 plugins for Konqueror, the KDE file/web/doc browser ii konqueror 3.2.1-1 KDE's advanced File Manager, Web Browser and Document Viewer ii konqueror-nsplugins 3.2.1-1 Netscape plugin support for Konqueror ii konsole 3.2.1-1 KDE X terminal emulator ii kontact 3.2.1-1 KDE pim application ii korganizer 3.2.1-1 KDE personal organizer ii kpager 3.2.1-1 KDE Desktop Pager ii kpersonalizer 3.2.1-1 KDE Personalizer ii kregexpeditor 3.2.1-1 graphical regular expression editor plugin ii kscreensaver 3.2.1-1 screen savers released with KDE ii ksim 3.2.1-1 System information monitor ii ksmserver 3.2.1-1 KDE Session Manager ii ksplash 3.2.1-1 KDE Splash Screen ii ksysguard 3.2.1-1 KDE System Guard ii ksysguardd 3.2.1-1 KDE System Guard Daemon ii ktimer 3.2.1-1 KDE timer ii ktip 3.2.1-1 Kandalf's Useful Tips ii ktnef 3.2.1-1 KDE TNEF viewer ii kuickshow 3.2.1-1 KDE image/slideshow viewer ii kview 3.2.1-1 KDE simple image viewer/converter ii kwalletmanager 3.2.1-1 KDE Wallet Manager ii kwin 3.2.1-1 KDE Window Manager ii libkcal2 3.2.1-1 KDE calendaring library ii libkcddb1 3.2.1-1 cddb library for KDE ii libkdenetwork2 3.2.1-1 KDE Network library ii libkdepim1 3.2.1-1 KDE PIM library ii libkdgantt0 3.2.1-1 KD's gantt charting library ii libkgantt0 3.2.1-1 KDE gantt charting library ii libkonq4 3.2.1-1 Core libraries for KDE's file manager ii libkpimexchange1 3.2.1-1 KDE PIM Exchange library ii libkrb53 1.3.2-1 MIT Kerberos runtime libraries ii libksieve0 3.2.1-1 KDE mail/news message filtering library ii libmimelib1 3.2.1-1 KDE mime library ii quanta 3.2.1-1 web development environment for KDE ii xfonts-konsole 3.2.1-1 Fonts used by the KDE Konsole

Use apt-get -s -t unstable install all_packages_above_on_this_line if the output of the simulation looks good then remove the -s to actually install. If apt starts to complain about missing packages then keep adding them to the end of the line until no more warnings then remove the -s.

Here's the output:

Code:

root@toybox:~# dpkg -l | grep 3.2.1 rc kaddressbook 3.2.1-1 KDE NG addressbook application rc kalarm 3.2.1-1 KDE alarm message and command scheduler rc kandy 3.2.1-1 KDE mobile phone utility rc kdelibs-bin 3.2.1-1 KDE core binaries rc kdelibs4 3.2.1-1 KDE core libraries rc korganizer 3.2.1-1 KDE personal organizer rc kpilot 3.2.1-1 KDE Palm Pilot hot-sync tool rc ksync 3.2.1-1 KDE Sync ii libkdgantt0 3.2.1-1 KD's gantt charting library ii lyx 1.3.2-1 High Level Word Processor ii lyx-common 1.3.2-1 High Level Word Processor - common files ii lyx-qt 1.3.2-1 High Level Word Processor - Qt frontend ii qt3-designer 3.2.1-6 Qt3 Designer ii qtparted 0.3.2-1 A parted frontend using QT

Notice, the rc 's :

I think I got some of the problem out of the way using dselect, but in doing so I got things pointed away from /etc/apt/sources.list ie:

Code:

root@toybox:~# apt-get -sf install Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. W: Couldn't stat source package list file: unstable/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/_etc_apt_sources.list_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list file: unstable/contrib Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/_etc_apt_sources.list_dists_unstable_contrib_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list file: unstable/non-free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/_etc_apt_sources.list_dists_unstable_non-free_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list file: unstable/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/_etc_apt_sources.list_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list file: unstable/contrib Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/_etc_apt_sources.list_dists_unstable_contrib_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list file: unstable/non-free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/_etc_apt_sources.list_dists_unstable_non-free_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems root@toybox:~# apt-get update Err file: unstable/main Packages File not found Ign file: unstable/main Release Err file: unstable/contrib Packages File not found Ign file: unstable/contrib Release Err file: unstable/non-free Packages File not found Ign file: unstable/non-free Release Failed to fetch file:/etc/apt/sources.list/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz File not found Failed to fetch file:/etc/apt/sources.list/dists/unstable/contrib/binary-i386/Packages.gz File not found Failed to fetch file:/etc/apt/sources.list/dists/unstable/non-free/binary-i386/Packages.gz File not found Reading Package Lists... Done W: Couldn't stat source package list file: unstable/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/_etc_apt_sources.list_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list file: unstable/contrib Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/_etc_apt_sources.list_dists_unstable_contrib_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list file: unstable/non-free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/_etc_apt_sources.list_dists_unstable_non-free_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.

Getting there and learning all the way.

THANKS.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rusty

Here's the output:

Code:

root@toybox:~# dpkg -l | grep 3.2.1 rc kaddressbook 3.2.1-1 KDE NG addressbook

Notice, the rc 's :

That means they have been removed but are still configured.

Quote:

Code:

root@toybox:~# apt-get -sf install Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. W: Couldn't stat source package list file: unstable/non-free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/_etc_apt_sources.list_dists_unstable_non-free_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.

Getting there and learning all the way.

THANKS.

Now this means that you have to update your sources try dselect update to get both the apt and deselect databases in sync. And forget about that stupid -f install advice that apt gives you it is more trouble than it is worth you are better off tracking down the problem packages and installing them one at a time if necessary. If the deselect update will not complete can you post your /etc/apt/sources.list if it updates without problems then all you should have to do is use the command I suggested in my post above and install all the packages from the list in the post that you want if errors on the command post the output so we can see it but most of the time all you would have to do is keep adding the packages on the end of the command line and they will install eventually.

Have a look

Code:

root@toybox:~# dselect update Err file: unstable/main Packages File not found Ign file: unstable/main Release Err file: unstable/contrib Packages File not found Ign file: unstable/contrib Release Err file: unstable/non-free Packages File not found Ign file: unstable/non-free Release Failed to fetch file:/etc/apt/sources.list/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/Packa ges.gz File not found Failed to fetch file:/etc/apt/sources.list/dists/unstable/contrib/binary-i386/Pa ckages.gz File not found Failed to fetch file:/etc/apt/sources.list/dists/unstable/non-free/binary-i386/P ackages.gz File not found Reading Package Lists... Done W: Couldn't stat source package list file: unstable/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/ lists/_etc_apt_sources.list_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list file: unstable/contrib Packages (/var/lib/a pt/lists/_etc_apt_sources.list_dists_unstable_contrib_binary-i386_Packages) - st at (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list file: unstable/non-free Packages (/var/lib/ apt/lists/_etc_apt_sources.list_dists_unstable_non-free_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. update available list script returned error exit status 1.

and this

Code:

root@toybox:/etc/apt# cat sources.list deb file:/etc/apt/sources.list unstable main contrib non-free

and this

Code:

root@toybox:/# apt-get update Err file: unstable/main Packages File not found Ign file: unstable/main Release Err file: unstable/contrib Packages File not found Ign file: unstable/contrib Release Err file: unstable/non-free Packages File not found Ign file: unstable/non-free Release Failed to fetch file:/etc/apt/sources.list/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz File not found Failed to fetch file:/etc/apt/sources.list/dists/unstable/contrib/binary-i386/Packages.gz File not found Failed to fetch file:/etc/apt/sources.list/dists/unstable/non-free/binary-i386/Packages.gz File not found Reading Package Lists... Done W: Couldn't stat source package list file: unstable/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/_etc_apt_sources.list_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list file: unstable/contrib Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/_etc_apt_sources.list_dists_unstable_contrib_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list file: unstable/non-free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/_etc_apt_sources.list_dists_unstable_non-free_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.

In think I need to reenter the right ftp sites in sources.list, perhaps copying from a knoppix cd. Or am I on the right track

Yes you definitely need to change the sources.list here is what mine looks like.

Code:

>$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list # /etc/apt/sources.list created by me # Security updates deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free #deb http://security.debian.org/ unstable/updates main contrib non-free # Stable deb http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free # Sources deb-src http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free # Testing deb http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib deb http://nonus.debian.org/debian-non-US testing/non-US main contrib non-free # Sources deb-src http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free deb-src http://nonus.debian.org/debian-non-US testing/non-US main contrib non-free # Unstable deb http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib deb http://nonus.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib non-free # Sources deb-src http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free deb-src http://nonus.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib non-free ## Various Multimedia Helper Apps Mplayer, Real, etc.. ## deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main ## Kio-apt sources for unstable provides apt:/ in Konqueror location bar deb http://lpnotfr.free.fr/debian/ ./ ## Java Runtime j2re1.4 #deb ftp://ntama.uni-mainz.de/pub/debian unofficial/ # this is needed for Java plugins for Mozilla (j2re1.4): from DU gcc3.2 # deb http://jopa.studentenweb.org/debian ./

Right.

I ran dselect and realized that it's writing back to sources.lst. So I've managed to get dselect to obtain a list pf packages and I kind of like the way it reports dependency conflicts as I scroll down. I'm not sure I need to manually insatll each package, I'm guessing that many of the dependency issues will involve one of the lib files so I might start there.

Since dselect lets me add sources, I might try that although cutting and pasting from your post is enticing.

Is this a good time to try and apt-get synaptic - does it have any depency resolution tools?

Thanks again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rusty

Right.

I ran dselect and realized that it's writing back to sources.lst. So I've managed to get dselect to obtain a list pf packages and I kind of like the way it reports dependency conflicts as I scroll down.

That explains the line in there.

Quote:

I'm not sure I need to manually insatll each package, I'm guessing that many of the dependency issues will involve one of the lib files so I might start there.

Yes that is usually where the problem is either an extra package that needs to be installed or it is trying to install the version from testing when the unstable is needed.

Quote:

Since dselect lets me add sources, I might try that although cutting and pasting from your post is enticing.

Well you need the sources somewhere in the equation to be able to get the packages needed so you have to figure out which way you want to do it.

Quote:

Is this a good time to try and apt-get synaptic - does it have any depency resolution tools?

Thanks again.

The last time I used it (a year ago) sometimes it wanted to remove half the system I think that has to do with the mix of sources that are in Knoppix though not really anything to do with synaptic so you are most likely still going to run into problems with a mixed sources.list. I prefer apt-get it just gets the job done and you have control of what is happening, another package you may want to look into is aptitude it is a front-end for apt with similar features to dselect IIRC.

OK

I got rid of the offrending packages and after much apt-get -s testing (and using Stephens apt sources) I went ahead and (cringe) apt-get upgradeed.

So far so good, a couple of issues and questions.

The machine now boots to a debian gui login, not command line, I guess it starts xdm from init.rc.?

KDE is not installed, in fact most of the programs have r c flags when dpkg -l is run.

If I want kde should I apt-get all of it or just the parts I want. Just trying to avoid unseen pitfalls.

Thanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rusty

OK

The machine now boots to a debian gui login, not command line, I guess it starts xdm from init.rc.?

/etc/rc[2-5].d/S99xdm if you have not changed it which one gets used depends on the /etc/inittab settings for the default runlevel.

Quote:

KDE is not installed, in fact most of the programs have r c flags when dpkg -l is run.

If I want kde should I apt-get all of it or just the parts I want. Just trying to avoid unseen pitfalls.

Thanks.

Getting the parts works fine for me never have used the KDE meta package to get everything and from the looks of it the package has not been made for the 3.2.1 branch if that is what you want to use so it is individual packages there.

Code:

>$ apt-cache policy kde kde: Installed: (none) Candidate: 4:3.1.2 Version Table: 4:3.1.2 0 990 http://ftp2.de.debian.org testing/main Packages 600 http://ftp2.de.debian.org unstable/main Packages 4:2.2.25 0 500 http://ftp2.de.debian.org stable/main Packages

Hmm thought I would start out with something simple

Code:

root@toybox:~# apt-get -st unstable install konsole Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following extra packages will be installed: kdelibs-bin kdelibs-data kdelibs4 Suggested packages: khelpcenter Recommended packages: xfonts-konsole The following NEW packages will be installed: kdelibs-bin kdelibs-data kdelibs4 konsole 0 upgraded, 4 newly installed, 0 to remove and 224 not upgraded. Inst kdelibs-data (4:3.2.1-1 Debian:unstable) Inst kdelibs4 (4:3.2.1-1 Debian:unstable) [] Inst kdelibs-bin (4:3.2.1-1 Debian:unstable) Inst konsole (4:3.2.1-1 Debian:unstable) Conf kdelibs-data (4:3.2.1-1 Debian:unstable) Conf kdelibs-bin (4:3.2.1-1 Debian:unstable) Conf kdelibs4 (4:3.2.1-1 Debian:unstable) Conf konsole (4:3.2.1-1 Debian:unstable)

Should install ok, right?

Code:

root@toybox:~# apt-get -t unstable install konsole Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following extra packages will be installed: kdelibs-bin kdelibs-data kdelibs4 Suggested packages: khelpcenter Recommended packages: xfonts-konsole The following NEW packages will be installed: kdelibs-bin kdelibs-data kdelibs4 konsole 0 upgraded, 4 newly installed, 0 to remove and 224 not upgraded. Need to get 0B/15.2MB of archives. After unpacking 47.6MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y (Reading database ... 89838 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking kdelibs-data (from .../kdelibs-data_4%3a3.2.1-1_all.deb) ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.2.1-1_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/mimelnk/application/vnd.sun.xml.calc.desktop', which is also in package openoffice-de-en dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) Selecting previously deselected package kdelibs4. Unpacking kdelibs4 (from .../kdelibs4_4%3a3.2.1-1_i386.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package kdelibs-bin. Unpacking kdelibs-bin (from .../kdelibs-bin_4%3a3.2.1-1_i386.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package konsole. Unpacking konsole (from .../konsole_4%3a3.2.1-1_i386.deb) ... Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.2.1-1_all.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

Thought I might try gnome but:

Code:

root@toybox:~# apt-get -st unstable install gnome Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these: The following packages have unmet dependencies: gnome: Depends: gnome-desktop-environment (= 48) but it is not going to be installed Depends: gnome-office (= 48) but it is not going to be installed Depends: evolution but it is not going to be installed or balsa but it is not going to be installed Depends: gnome-themes-extras but it is not going to be installed Depends: netspeed but it is not going to be installed Depends: rhythmbox but it is not going to be installed Depends: synaptic or gnome-apt but it is not going to be installed Depends: xscreensaver but it is not going to be installed kdelibs4: Depends: kdelibs-data (>= 4:3.2.1) but it is not going to be installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).

I've since dpkg -r the kde stuff . What am I missing here?

Quote:

Originally Posted by rusty

Have a look

In think I need to reenter the right ftp sites in sources.list, perhaps copying from a knoppix cd. Or am I on the right track

you should use netselect-apt. This app. gets the nearest/fastest debian mirror for downloading with apt-get. It also generates the source.list with this choice.

talueguito
raul

Quote:

Originally Posted by rusty

Hmm thought I would start out with something simple

Code:

root@toybox:~# apt-get -st unstable install konsole Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following extra packages will be installed: kdelibs-bin kdelibs-data kdelibs4 Suggested packages: khelpcenter Recommended packages: xfonts-konsole The following NEW packages will be installed: kdelibs-bin kdelibs-data kdelibs4 konsole 0 upgraded, 4 newly installed, 0 to remove and 224 not upgraded. Inst kdelibs-data (4:3.2.1-1 Debian:unstable) Inst kdelibs4 (4:3.2.1-1 Debian:unstable) [] Inst kdelibs-bin (4:3.2.1-1 Debian:unstable) Inst konsole (4:3.2.1-1 Debian:unstable) Conf kdelibs-data (4:3.2.1-1 Debian:unstable) Conf kdelibs-bin (4:3.2.1-1 Debian:unstable) Conf kdelibs4 (4:3.2.1-1 Debian:unstable) Conf konsole (4:3.2.1-1 Debian:unstable)

Should install ok, right?

Code:

root@toybox:~# apt-get -t unstable install konsole Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following extra packages will be installed: kdelibs-bin kdelibs-data kdelibs4 Suggested packages: khelpcenter Recommended packages: xfonts-konsole The following NEW packages will be installed: kdelibs-bin kdelibs-data kdelibs4 konsole 0 upgraded, 4 newly installed, 0 to remove and 224 not upgraded. Need to get 0B/15.2MB of archives. After unpacking 47.6MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y (Reading database ... 89838 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking kdelibs-data (from .../kdelibs-data_4%3a3.2.1-1_all.deb) ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.2.1-1_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/mimelnk/application/vnd.sun.xml.calc.desktop', which is also in package openoffice-de-en dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) Selecting previously deselected package kdelibs4. Unpacking kdelibs4 (from .../kdelibs4_4%3a3.2.1-1_i386.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package kdelibs-bin. Unpacking kdelibs-bin (from .../kdelibs-bin_4%3a3.2.1-1_i386.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package konsole. Unpacking konsole (from .../konsole_4%3a3.2.1-1_i386.deb) ... Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.2.1-1_all.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

I've since dpkg -r the kde stuff . What am I missing here?

You need to dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.2.1-1_all.deb to force the overwrite of the offending package and then dpkg --configure -a to make sure that nothing got left unconfigured and you should definitely install the xfonts-konsole from unstable for the recommended packages and should also probably install khelpcenter in the suggested packages as well if you want the help files. For the gnome you should do something like this apt-get -s -t unstable install gnome gnome-desktop-environment if it complains about more packages then keep adding them on the line it should install eventually and on my system.

Code:

HappyTux:/home/stephen# apt-get -s install gnome Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following extra packages will be installed: abiword-common (2.0.1+cvs.2003.11.07-2.2) abiword-gnome (2.0.1+cvs.2003.11.07-2.2) acme (2.4.2-1) aspell-en (0.51-1-1) bug-buddy (2.4.2-1) dia-common (0.92.2-3) dia-gnome (0.92.2-3) docbook (4.2-3) docbook-dsssl (1.78-4) docbook-xml (4.2-12) docbook-xsl (1.64.1.0-4.2) eog (2.4.1-2) epiphany-browser (1.0.6-1) esound (0.2.29-1) evolution (1.4.5-3.2) fam (2.7.0-5) file-roller (2.4.4-1) gcalctool (4.3.46-2) gconf-editor (2.4.0-3) gdb (5.3-2) gedit (2.4.1-1) gksu (1.0.3-2) gnome-about (2.4.1-6) gnome-applets (2.4.0-4) gnome-control-center (2.4.0-4) gnome-core (47) gnome-desktop-data (2.4.1-6) gnome-desktop-environment (47) gnome-doc-tools (1.0-6.1) gnome-games (2.4.2-3) gnome-games-data (2.4.2-3) gnome-gv (2.4.1-1) gnome-icon-theme (1.1.3-1) gnome-media (2.4.1.1-3) gnome-office (47) gnome-panel (2.4.2-3) gnome-panel-data (2.4.2-3) gnome-session (2.4.2-1) gnome-system-monitor (2.4.0-1) gnome-terminal (2.4.2-7) gnome-themes (2.4.1-2) gnome-themes-common (2.4.1-2) gnome-themes-extras (0.6-1) gnome-utils (2.4.1-1) gnome2-user-guide (2.4.1-2) gnomemeeting (0.96.1-4) gnumeric (1.2.6-1) gpdf (0.112-1.1) gstreamer-audiofile (0.6.4-4) gstreamer-flac (0.6.4-4) gstreamer-gconf (0.6.4-4) gstreamer-gnomevfs (0.6.4-4) gstreamer-mad (0.6.4-4) gstreamer-misc (0.6.4-4) gstreamer-oss (0.6.4-4) gstreamer-plugin-apps (0.6.4-4) gstreamer-plugin-libs (0.6.4-4) gstreamer-tools (0.6.4-1) gstreamer-vorbis (0.6.4-4) gtk2-engines-crux (2.4.1-2) gtk2-engines-industrial (0.2.32-3) gtk2-engines-lighthouseblue (2.4.1-2) gtk2-engines-pixbuf (2.2.0-2) gtk2-engines-redmond95 (2.2.0-2) gtk2-engines-smooth (0.5.6-2) gtk2-engines-spherecrystal (0.7-7) gtk2-engines-thinice (2.4.1-2) gtkhtml3.0 (3.0.9-2.1) gucharmap (1.2.0-4) guile-1.6-libs (1.6.4-4) jade (1.2.1-38) libasn1-6-heimdal (0.6-8) libaspell15 (0.50.5-2) libbonobo-activation4 (2.4.0-4) libdc1394-9 (0.9.3-1) libeel2-2 (2.4.1-2) libeel2-data (2.4.1-2) libenchant1 (1.1.4+cvs.2004.02.14-1) libfribidi0 (0.10.4-1) libgal2.0-5 (1.99.10-2.3) libgal2.0-common (1.99.10-2.3) libgdkcardimage0 (2.4.2-3) libgksu0 (1.0.3-2) libgnome-desktop-2 (2.4.1-6) libgnome-pilot2 (2.0.10-3) libgnomeprint2.2-0 (2.4.2-3) libgnomeprint2.2-data (2.4.2-3) libgnomeprintui2.2-0 (2.4.2-1) libgnomeprintui2.2-common (2.4.2-1) libgnutls5 (0.8.8-2) libgsm1 (1.0.10-12) libgssapi1-heimdal (0.6-8) libgtkhtml3.0-2 (3.0.9-2.1) libgtksourceview-common (0.7.0-2) libgtksourceview1.0-0 (0.7.0-2) libgtop2 (2.0.8-7) libgucharmap3 (1.2.0-4) libguile-ltdl-1 (1.6.4-4) libid3tag0 (0.15.0b-3.1) libkrb-1-kerberos4kth (1.2.2-10) libkrb5-17-heimdal (0.6-8) liblinc1 (1.0.3-4) libmetacity0 (2.6.5-1) libmyspell3 (3.1-5) libnautilus2-2 (2.4.2-2) libnspr4 (1.5-3) libnss3 (1.5-3) libopencdk4 (0.4.2-3) libopenh323-1.11.7 (1.11.7-5) libpanel-applet2-0 (2.4.2-3) libpisock8 (0.11.8-9) libpisync0 (0.11.8-9) libpq3 (7.4.2-1) libpt-1.4.11 (1.4.11-3) libqthreads-12 (1.6.4-4) libroken16-kerberos4kth (1.2.2-10) librsvg2-common (2.5.0-2) libscrollkeeper0 (0.3.14-5) libsoup2.0-0 (1.99.26-1) libsp1 (1.3.4-1.2.1-38) libstartup-notification0 (0.5-4) libwnck-common (2.4.0.1-2) libwnck4 (2.4.0.1-2) libxslt1 (1.1.2-3) libzvt2.0-0 (2.0.1cvs20021009-4) metacity (2.6.5-1) mozilla-browser (1.5-3) mozilla-psm (1.5-3) nautilus (2.4.2-2) nautilus-cd-burner (0.6.1-2) nautilus-data (2.4.2-2) nautilus-media (0.3.3.1-4) netspeed (0.9.2-1) pkg-config (0.15.0-3) planner (0.11-5) portmap (5-2.2) rhythmbox (0.6.5-2) scrollkeeper (0.3.14-5) sgml-base (1.21) sgml-data (2.0.2) sodipodi (0.33-1) symlinks (1.2-4.1) synaptic (0.48.1-1) xml-core (0.07) xscreensaver (4.15-1) yelp (2.4.2-4) zenity (1.8-1) Suggested packages: abiword-plugins (2.0.1+cvs.2003.11.07-2.2) abiword-plugins-gnome (2.0.1+cvs.2003.11.07-2.2) abiword-doc (2.0.1+cvs.2003.11.07-2.2) aspell-bin (0.50.5-2) psgml (1.3.1-8) sp (1.3.4-1.2.1-38) jadetex (3.13-1) docbook-dsssl-doc (1.78-1) apache (1.3.29.0.2-4) httpd () docbook-doc (30d10-8) gnome-spell (1.0.4-2) lha (1.14i-2) acpid (1.0.3-2) xearth (1.1-10) esound-clients (0.2.29-1) gnome-audio (2.0.0-1) doc-base (0.7.18) gnome-help (1.4.0.6-5) gdm (2.4.1.7-1) gnome-system-tools (0.32.0-2) fortune-mod (9708-36) gnome-help-data (1.4.0.6-5) gmc (4.5.55-1.2woody2) xsu (0.2.3-1) calctool (4.3.46-2) gnumeric-doc (1.2.6-1) gnumeric-plugins-extra (1.2.6-1) gnumeric-python (1.0.8-1t1) gnumeric-gda (1.0.8-1t1) guppi-gnumeric () gtk-engines-pixmap (0.12-8) gtk-engines-redmond95 (0.12-8) libopenh323-dev (1.11.7-5) jpilot (0.99.7-1) pilot-link (0.11.8-9) malsync (2.2.0-1) kpilot (3.1.5-1.1) gnome-pilot (2.0.10-3) postgresql-doc (7.4.2-1) postgresql-client (7.4.2-1) xprt-xprintorg (0.0.9.cvs20031220-1) mpg321 (0.2.10.3) medusa (0.5.1-4) nautilus-suggested (1.0.6-5) libgnome-dev (1.4.2-17) sgml-base-doc (1.15) perlsgml (19970918-11) doc-html-w3 (2003.03-1) opensp (1.5.1.0-2) libxml2-utils (2.6.7-1) osp () libgnome2-perl (0.90-1) apt-watch (0.3.1-2) xdaliclock (2.20-1) xscreensaver-gl (4.15-1) fortune () qcam (0.91-11.1) streamer (3.91) Recommended packages: abiword (2.0.1+cvs.2003.11.07-2.2) abiword-help (2.0.1+cvs.2003.11.07-2.2) abiword-gtk (1.0.2+cvs.2002.06.05-1) xfonts-abi (2.0.1+cvs.2003.11.07-2.2) dia (0.92.2-3) dia-libs (0.92.2-5) gsfonts-x11 (0.17) lynx (2.8.5-1) www-browser () mozilla-xft (1.5-3) gnome-pilot-conduits (2.0.10-2) sharutils (4.2.1-10) lzop (1.01-1) gnome-mag (0.10.2-1) gnopernicus (0.7.1-1) gok (0.6.0-2) gnome-accessibility-themes (2.4.1-2) gnucash (1.8.8-4) gtk-engines-industrial (0.2.32-3) gstreamer-plugins (0.6.4-4) gtk-smooth-themes (0.5.2-2) myspell-dictionary () nautilus-gtkhtml (0.3.2-7) desktop-base (0.3.10) gnome-vfs-extras2 (0.99.11-2) xli (1.17.0-14) The following NEW packages will be installed: abiword-common (2.0.1+cvs.2003.11.07-2.2) abiword-gnome (2.0.1+cvs.2003.11.07-2.2) acme (2.4.2-1) aspell-en (0.51-1-1) bug-buddy (2.4.2-1) dia-common (0.92.2-3) dia-gnome (0.92.2-3) docbook (4.2-3) docbook-dsssl (1.78-4) docbook-xml (4.2-12) docbook-xsl (1.64.1.0-4.2) eog (2.4.1-2) epiphany-browser (1.0.6-1) esound (0.2.29-1) evolution (1.4.5-3.2) fam (2.7.0-5) file-roller (2.4.4-1) gcalctool (4.3.46-2) gconf-editor (2.4.0-3) gdb (5.3-2) gedit (2.4.1-1) gksu (1.0.3-2) gnome (47) gnome-about (2.4.1-6) gnome-applets (2.4.0-4) gnome-control-center (2.4.0-4) gnome-core (47) gnome-desktop-data (2.4.1-6) gnome-desktop-environment (47) gnome-doc-tools (1.0-6.1) gnome-games (2.4.2-3) gnome-games-data (2.4.2-3) gnome-gv (2.4.1-1) gnome-icon-theme (1.1.3-1) gnome-media (2.4.1.1-3) gnome-office (47) gnome-panel (2.4.2-3) gnome-panel-data (2.4.2-3) gnome-session (2.4.2-1) gnome-system-monitor (2.4.0-1) gnome-terminal (2.4.2-7) gnome-themes (2.4.1-2) gnome-themes-common (2.4.1-2) gnome-themes-extras (0.6-1) gnome-utils (2.4.1-1) gnome2-user-guide (2.4.1-2) gnomemeeting (0.96.1-4) gnumeric (1.2.6-1) gpdf (0.112-1.1) gstreamer-audiofile (0.6.4-4) gstreamer-flac (0.6.4-4) gstreamer-gconf (0.6.4-4) gstreamer-gnomevfs (0.6.4-4) gstreamer-mad (0.6.4-4) gstreamer-misc (0.6.4-4) gstreamer-oss (0.6.4-4) gstreamer-plugin-apps (0.6.4-4) gstreamer-plugin-libs (0.6.4-4) gstreamer-tools (0.6.4-1) gstreamer-vorbis (0.6.4-4) gtk2-engines-crux (2.4.1-2) gtk2-engines-industrial (0.2.32-3) gtk2-engines-lighthouseblue (2.4.1-2) gtk2-engines-pixbuf (2.2.0-2) gtk2-engines-redmond95 (2.2.0-2) gtk2-engines-smooth (0.5.6-2) gtk2-engines-spherecrystal (0.7-7) gtk2-engines-thinice (2.4.1-2) gtkhtml3.0 (3.0.9-2.1) gucharmap (1.2.0-4) guile-1.6-libs (1.6.4-4) jade (1.2.1-38) libasn1-6-heimdal (0.6-8) libaspell15 (0.50.5-2) libbonobo-activation4 (2.4.0-4) libdc1394-9 (0.9.3-1) libeel2-2 (2.4.1-2) libeel2-data (2.4.1-2) libenchant1 (1.1.4+cvs.2004.02.14-1) libfribidi0 (0.10.4-1) libgal2.0-5 (1.99.10-2.3) libgal2.0-common (1.99.10-2.3) libgdkcardimage0 (2.4.2-3) libgksu0 (1.0.3-2) libgnome-desktop-2 (2.4.1-6) libgnome-pilot2 (2.0.10-3) libgnomeprint2.2-0 (2.4.2-3) libgnomeprint2.2-data (2.4.2-3) libgnomeprintui2.2-0 (2.4.2-1) libgnomeprintui2.2-common (2.4.2-1) libgnutls5 (0.8.8-2) libgsm1 (1.0.10-12) libgssapi1-heimdal (0.6-8) libgtkhtml3.0-2 (3.0.9-2.1) libgtksourceview-common (0.7.0-2) libgtksourceview1.0-0 (0.7.0-2) libgtop2 (2.0.8-7) libgucharmap3 (1.2.0-4) libguile-ltdl-1 (1.6.4-4) libid3tag0 (0.15.0b-3.1) libkrb-1-kerberos4kth (1.2.2-10) libkrb5-17-heimdal (0.6-8) liblinc1 (1.0.3-4) libmetacity0 (2.6.5-1) libmyspell3 (3.1-5) libnautilus2-2 (2.4.2-2) libnspr4 (1.5-3) libnss3 (1.5-3) libopencdk4 (0.4.2-3) libopenh323-1.11.7 (1.11.7-5) libpanel-applet2-0 (2.4.2-3) libpisock8 (0.11.8-9) libpisync0 (0.11.8-9) libpq3 (7.4.2-1) libpt-1.4.11 (1.4.11-3) libqthreads-12 (1.6.4-4) libroken16-kerberos4kth (1.2.2-10) librsvg2-common (2.5.0-2) libscrollkeeper0 (0.3.14-5) libsoup2.0-0 (1.99.26-1) libsp1 (1.3.4-1.2.1-38) libstartup-notification0 (0.5-4) libwnck-common (2.4.0.1-2) libwnck4 (2.4.0.1-2) libxslt1 (1.1.2-3) libzvt2.0-0 (2.0.1cvs20021009-4) metacity (2.6.5-1) mozilla-browser (1.5-3) mozilla-psm (1.5-3) nautilus (2.4.2-2) nautilus-cd-burner (0.6.1-2) nautilus-data (2.4.2-2) nautilus-media (0.3.3.1-4) netspeed (0.9.2-1) pkg-config (0.15.0-3) planner (0.11-5) portmap (5-2.2) rhythmbox (0.6.5-2) scrollkeeper (0.3.14-5) sgml-base (1.21) sgml-data (2.0.2) sodipodi (0.33-1) symlinks (1.2-4.1) synaptic (0.48.1-1) xml-core (0.07) xscreensaver (4.15-1) yelp (2.4.2-4) zenity (1.8-1) 0 upgraded, 148 newly installed, 0 to remove and 21 not upgraded. [snip gnome installing ...] Conf synaptic (0.48.1-1 Debian:testing) Conf xscreensaver (4.15-1 Debian:testing) Conf gnome (47 Debian:testing)

So the version from testing will install.

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HappyTux:/home/stephen# apt-get -s install -t unstable gnome Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that the package is simply not installable and a bug report against that package should be filed. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: gnome: Depends: gnome-desktop-environment (= 48) but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages HappyTux:/home/stephen# apt-get -s install -t unstable gnome gnome-desktop-environment Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: gnome-desktop-environment: Depends: gnome-games (>= 2.4.0) but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages HappyTux:/home/stephen# apt-get -s install -t unstable gnome gnome-desktop-environment gnome-games Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: gnome-games: Depends: libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.6.0-2) but 1.4.1-1 is to be installed Depends: libbonobo2-0 (>= 2.6.0) but 2.4.3-1 is to be installed Depends: libgconf2-4 (>= 2.6.0) but 2.4.0.1-4 is to be installed Depends: libgdkcardimage0 but it is not going to be installed Depends: libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.4.0) but 2.2.3-1 is to be installed Depends: libgnome-keyring0 but it is not installable Depends: libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.4.0-2) but 2.2.4-3 is to be installed Depends: liborbit2 (>= 1:2.10.0) but 1:2.8.3-2 is to be installed Depends: libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.4.0) but 1.2.5-2.1 is to be installed E: Broken packages HappyTux:/home/stephen# apt-get -s install -t unstable gnome gnome-desktop-environment gnome-games libatk1.0-0 libbonobo2-0 libgconf2-4 libgdkcardimage0 libglib2.0-0 libgnome-keyring0 libgtk2.0-0 liborbit2 libpango1.0-0 Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done libatk1.0-0 is already the newest version. libbonobo2-0 is already the newest version. libgconf2-4 is already the newest version. libglib2.0-0 is already the newest version. Package libgnome-keyring0 is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package libgnome-keyring0 has no installation candidate HappyTux:/home/stephen#apt-get -s install -t unstable gnome gnome-desktop-environment gnome-games libatk1.0-0 libbonobo2-0 libgconf2-4 libgdkcardimage0 libglib2.0-0 libgtk2.0-0 liborbit2 libpango1.0-0 Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done libatk1.0-0 is already the newest version. libbonobo2-0 is already the newest version. libgconf2-4 is already the newest version. libglib2.0-0 is already the newest version. libgtk2.0-0 is already the newest version. liborbit2 is already the newest version. libpango1.0-0 is already the newest version. Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: gnome-games: Depends: libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.6.0-2) but 1.4.1-1 is to be installed Depends: libbonobo2-0 (>= 2.6.0) but 2.4.3-1 is to be installed Depends: libgconf2-4 (>= 2.6.0) but 2.4.0.1-4 is to be installed Depends: libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.4.0) but 2.2.3-1 is to be installed Depends: libgnome-keyring0 but it is not installable Depends: libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.4.0-2) but 2.2.4-3 is to be installed Depends: liborbit2 (>= 1:2.10.0) but 1:2.8.3-2 is to be installed Depends: libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.4.0) but 1.2.5-2.1 is to be installed libgdkcardimage0: Depends: libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.6.0-2) but 1.4.1-1 is to be installed Depends: libbonobo2-0 (>= 2.6.0) but 2.4.3-1 is to be installed Depends: libgconf2-4 (>= 2.6.0) but 2.4.0.1-4 is to be installed Depends: libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.4.0) but 2.2.3-1 is to be installed Depends: libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.4.0-2) but 2.2.4-3 is to be installed Depends: liborbit2 (>= 1:2.10.0) but 1:2.8.3-2 is to be installed Depends: libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.4.0) but 1.2.5-2.1 is to be installed E: Broken packages HappyTux:/home/stephen# apt-cache policy libatk1.0-0 libatk1.0-0: Installed: 1.4.1-1 Candidate: 1.4.1-1 Version Table: *** 1.4.1-1 0 990 http://ftp2.de.debian.org testing/main Packages 600 http://ftp2.de.debian.org unstable/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 1.0.1-2 0 500 http://ftp2.de.debian.org stable/main Packages

Here you see that gnome in unstable is broken and not able to be installed because there is no version libatk1.0-0 >= 1.6.0-2 available among others to install you would have to wait a couple of days and see if the packages have moved through the system to install properly.

The force overwrite did the tirick. Could the force overwrite option be used with the package_name to accomplish the same thing ? If I RTFM it seems you could, but in addition to the files that cause problems one could get rid of configuration files that are better off left alone (imagine CUPS). I guess the lessons learned is 1} Use thes-s option when apt-getting to check for dependency problems and 2} that doesn't always catch everything.

Anyway thanks again.

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Originally Posted by rusty

The force overwrite did the tirick. Could the force overwrite option be used with the package_name to accomplish the same thing ?

I believe you need the entire package name including the version number and path to the file.

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If I RTFM it seems you could, but in addition to the files that cause problems one could get rid of configuration files that are better off left alone (imagine CUPS).

Definitely not to be used any more than necessary that is for sure.

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I guess the lessons learned is 1} Use thes-s option when apt-getting to check for dependency problems and 2} that doesn't always catch everything.

Anyway thanks again.

1} Yes always use the -s first and actually take a minute to look at the output to see what it will do. 2} No having to force overwrite is a packaging bug not a dependency problem.

Well, sorry to keep beating on the thread but

When I apt-get -s -t unstable install gnome-desktop-environment the output lists a bunch of packages to be installed, with no apparent problems, however

When I run Synaptic and choose the package a number of conflicts ( is/won't be installed) are listed when I click the dependencies tab.

dselect also guides me to dependency issues for that package.

Same for kde. I'm inclined to just let apt-get do its thing but don't want to end up with more problems.

Given the number of views this thread has been given, I'm going to keep it alive in hopes it helps others too. Thanks again!!

For me, Synaptic is great to see what's available to install, but it's lacking when you actually try to install many packages. It will warn you about dependency problems that apt-get is able to easily overcome. If apt-get -s install doesn't indicate that it's going to remove anything important and shows everything being installed and configured I'd say you're safe with installing gnome, even if Synaptic gives you those dependency warnings.

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Well, sorry to keep beating on the thread but

When I apt-get -s -t unstable install gnome-desktop-environment the output lists a bunch of packages to be installed, with no apparent problems

Good it should install then but you should make sure the extra packages are coming from unstable as well I think I never use Gnome so can not say for sure exactly what you need but if you are going for the latest version then you want the unstable ones.

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When I run Synaptic and choose the package a number of conflicts ( is/won't be installed) are listed when I click the dependencies tab.

Used it a few times it only seems to want to work like I want it with just one branch in the sources.list (eg. testing or unstable) if you give it too many choices like in knoppix it does not work as expected.

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dselect also guides me to dependency issues for that package.

Tried to use it once and hated it.

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Same for kde. I'm inclined to just let apt-get do its thing but don't want to end up with more problems.

That seems to be the only one of the options that will allow you to do it so you may as well go for it. I would say if you are going to use dselect or synaptic confine the sources.list to either testing or most likely unstable and see what the result would be checking for conflicts.

Yikes!

I wesnt ahead ant apt-getted gnome-desktop-environment, and it seem to install but (while still in icewm) I tried to change to metacity, blank screen. Ctrl-Alt-F2 , halt, restart: Gnome splash screen, big X for mouse no inputs , right click...nothing.

Apt-get remove gde, remove metacity, remove --purge gde. Remove then reinstall icewm. Still get gnome splash as above.

KnoppixKnewbie trying to understand this thread.

Is this talking about installing packages to HD so that the applications I want to run are available and configured, as opposed to unpacking and installing from CD each time I want to use it. Is there an FAQ or tutorial that would walk me thru this. I did a Beginner HD Install from CD, but would like freq. used Apps like Open Office Writer. Mozilla, K3b, KsCD, to load faster.

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.

dad

If you have done a hard disk install, then (having removed the cd from your drive) you should be able to start all the applications from hd. They should start faster and should not need the cd in the drive.

There are plenty of links to howtos and tutorials on this site. If you are having trouble check out the search function in the forum and see if there have been posts dealing with similar. And feel free to post back with questions - thats what we're here for. :D