Knoppix Fried GeForce 4 Ti 4200!

**true1ever** · 03-31-2003, 05:43 AM

I have noticed some odd behaviour on a Dell 4550 when doing a knoppix shutdown, it would turn the PC off after asking you to remove the CD. Upon pressing the power on at this point, the PC would turn on but the display would not, not even the BIOS boot screen, monitor would stay in standby. Then if I would actually unplug the power from the back of the unit and plug it back in, it would boot up normally. I evenually figured out a way around it (issuing an init 6 instead of doing a shutdown). I'm not sure if the 2003-03-26 version has this problem, I think I did shut down once the regular way IIRC and it did not exhibit the lock-up.

**IoN_PuLse** · 03-31-2003, 06:20 AM

And WHQL "certification" actually means anything? That just means they paid Microsoft a bunch of money for the ability to say their drivers are WHQL-certified, not much more. Considering MS can't make stable/proper software, why should we base our opinions of drivers on whether or not MS got their dough or not?

**orang55** · 04-09-2003, 02:36 AM

Indeed, I would see no reason to ditch a card because of it not being WHQL certified. The big issue is probably that geforce cards are made by all sorts of manufacturers, and microsoft may be reluctant to certify a driver that works on such a wide range of hardware.

On the side, I'd like to note that in my experience, NVIDIA drivers are MUCH MUCH more stable and well-written than ATI's drivers.

**Entropy42** · 04-09-2003, 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by igs

My card was a (presumably) Dell card as shipped with a dimension 4550, there are no markings on the card to indicate either Dell or any other manufacturer except Nvidia themselves.

As the machine was under warranty I have been trying to get Dell to replace the card but they seem to be a bit reticent so far.

igs

Have you tried putting the card back in after a reasonable amount of time (60 sec or more) of the system being powered down and unplugged?

BTW, as to GeForces and DVI out - If you remaster with the binary NVidia drivers installed, DVI works perfectly.

What really impresses me is that Knoppix 3.2 works on my laptop even without those drivers - Slightly older versions of X don't work with the GeForce4 440 Go.

**el_manaba** · 10-24-2004, 01:20 AM

I know this is a really old thread, but does anyone else have problems with the MSI Ti 4200? I use the DVI port and knoppix seems to support it...kind of. I can't get it to use 1280x1024 resolution. I've tried every combination of resolution and refresh rate I an think of, and still can't get more than 1152x764.

I also experience some instability with WINXP on the 4200? Has anybody had these problems?

**DaTasuRgE** · 10-24-2004, 08:24 AM

YES It IS POSSIBLE for this to happen...

I've been doing some research following my own post on this forum about this type of issue, and the SUPERPROBE that isused with most Linux distros HAS BEEN KNOWN to sometimes fry video cards. I also discussed this issue with another friend of mine who uses every machine imaginable from i386 based to Alpha, MIPS, Sun, etc..and has been running Linux/FreeBSD/NetBSD for many years. He himself told me that the SuperProbe has fried a couple of his own video cards. So Loper, it's an unfortunate coincedance that you've just never come accross this happening. The SuperProbe DID fry my GeForce FX 5700 Ultra, it's permanently screwed. I've had to raise the voltage up al the way now to even use it until I can afford the ~200 to buy a new vid card.

Needless to say, I've never seen any warning ANYWHERE that something like this could potentially happen, and I'm pretty pissed. IGS, you're not alone in this, and it does happen.