Kernal panic error -- won't boot! Please help..

[ChillyWilly]

I'm a complete newb to both linux & knoppix, but after playing around with Linspire for a while I realized that knoppix was a much better choice. I found out that the old installer script was unavailable, so I followed directions from some post to knx-hdinstall from debian.tu-bs.de.

After I ran the script (after choosing to format over my old Linspire partitions), I got no error messages, but when I actually try to boot into Linux I get a host of woes. I tried both the "Beginner" and "Debian" installation modes, with different messages but same results.

With the "Beginner" one I get just half a screen of error messages, but the one that counts (probably) is this:

initrd-tools: 0.1.67
mount: fs type devfs not supported by kernal

then finally

Kernal panic: Attempted to kill init!

And that's that--nothing more happens. When I run the "Debian" installer, I get pages upon pages of error messages, but finally ends up the same way with the same error messages that stop the process.

HELP! I had absolutely no problems running Knoppix off the CD, loved it, and all I want is a hd install. What could possibly be the problem here??? Please help!

[ChillyWilly]

CORRECTION: I ran "knoppix-installer", apparently, and not "knx-hdinstall". Basically, I ran the latest script as fetched by the " knoppix-installer-latest-web" script on http://debian.tu-bs.de/knoppix/installer

[jdtommy]

What type of Hard Drive do you have?

[ChillyWilly]

It's an IDE laptop drive--here are the specs from System Info (WindowsXP):

Description Disk drive
Manufacturer (Standard disk drives)
Model TOSHIBA MK3018GAS
Bytes/Sector 512
Media Loaded Yes
Media Type Fixed hard disk
Partitions 3
SCSI Bus 0
SCSI Logical Unit 0
SCSI Port 0
SCSI Target ID 0
Sectors/Track 63
Size 27.95 GB (30,005,821,440 bytes)
Total Cylinders 3,648
Total Sectors 58,605,120
Total Tracks 930,240
Tracks/Cylinder 255
Partition Disk #0, Partition #0
Partition Size 22.48 GB (24,132,939,264 bytes)
Partition Starting Offset 32,256 bytes
Partition Disk #0, Partition #1
Partition Size 4.98 GB (5,346,432,000 bytes)
Partition Starting Offset 24,659,389,440 bytes
Partition Disk #0, Partition #2
Partition Size 502.03 MB (526,417,920 bytes)
Partition Starting Offset 24,132,971,520 bytes

In the root terminal window, during the installation I noticed that I get two funny messages repeatedly--can't quote it verbatim right now but the first says something about how NSFT files cannot be read yet and the second says the 'ext2' file system is 'unusual' or something like that. This happens throughout the installation script.

[user unknown]

You picked an installation - script for a 2.6 kernel, which isn't a good idea for an older kernel.
The ext2 -filesystem has no journaling, which may lead to long scandisk-runs, while ext3, reiserfs and others are much faster.

The devfs is new since kernel 2.6.

Either you get an appropriate script, or a new knoppix.

Type uname -r to find out your kernel-release, when booting from cd.

[ChillyWilly]

Hmm... But I tried formatting the partition as ext3 as well as reiserfs with the same results. Is the problem with QTParted, maybe? Also, I tried booting with the regular "Linux" option as well as "Linux2.4" ("Linux2.6" is the third option) from LILO, all with the same results. Plus, the Knoppix I have is 3.4, dated May 17 (the latest build, I think). Does it matter that my Linux partition is named "hda3" and the swap "hda4", even though the swap comes physically before the Linux on the harddrive? Also, I don't seem to have a "hda2".

Just grasping at straws here...

[user unknown]

What means 'tried formatting'?
Did you, and if yes, where errors reported?
If not, you formatted.

Perhaps you missed the step, to create a filesystem?

mkfs.ext3
mkfs.reiserfs

'same result': mount: fs type devfs not supported by kernal ?

If you created an extended partition, that one is normally invisible. (your hda2?)

I' don't know about problems with missorted partitions. Might be a problem, might not be. What do you mean with 'is named' - the name you pick manually for your partition? Just name it 'gregor' if you want....

Boot from cd, and see, whether you may mount the partitions.
If not, test 'mkfs'. Use Reiser or ext3, not ext2.
Then try to mount again. (No, you don't need to reboot.)

[ChillyWilly]

By "tried formatting..." I meant I tried the installation after formatting it (without error messages) as ext3, then again as reiserfs.

What do you mean, create a filesystem? Is this a manual step that you have to do outside of the Knoppix installation procedure? Nothing during installation prompted me to make a filesystem, and there was no such option underQTparted.

mkfs.ext3
mkfs.reiserfs

Where and when do I do this? Remember, it doesn't boot, so I can't do it from within. Do I boot from CD and do it from root? If so, how do I let it know that I want to do it to the harddrive, and not to the ramdisk?

'same result': mount: fs type devfs not supported by kernal ?

Yes

What do you mean with 'is named' - the name you pick manually for your partition?

No, the name that I see when I type 'fdisk -l', as follows:

• Disk /dev/hda: 30.0 GB, 30005821440 bytes
  255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 3648 cylinders
  Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
  
  Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
  /dev/hda1 * 1 2934 23567323+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
  /dev/hda3 2999 3648 5221125 83 Linux
  /dev/hda4 2935 2998 514080 82 Linux swap
  
  Partition table entries are not in disk order

Perhaps related, I've tried mounting my WInXP drive from Knoppix (booted from CD), and I get an 'fs' error, as follows:

mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1,
or too many mounted file systems
(could this be the IDE device where you in fact use
ide-scsi so that sr0 or sda or so is needed?)

I will try mkfs, but as I said, i'm not sure where I do this from (I'll try root console and look for proper syntax). Thanks so much for your help; I'll post my results.

[user unknown]

I didn't use the installation procedures partitioning, so I don't know, whether you have to do it outside.

But QTparted sound like a tool for partitioning, and not FS-creating.

To do it manually:
yes, boot from cd,
yes, as root,
and yes, from console
and yes, see for a proper syntax.
mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda3
and
mkswap /dev/hda4
afaik.

But first make sure, you don't have scsi!

[jdtommy]

You do not need to make the file system. The knoppix-installer does it all for you. There are problems with the knoppix-installer that cause it to create a 0 length initrd.img-2.6.6 file. This may have been what happened, but I have only seen this on a SCSI system.

After the hard drive install can you boot to the 2.4 kernel? I can, but when I try to boot to the 2.6 kernel I get kernel panics and this is because of the 0 length initrd.img-2.6.6 file.

I don't have a solution for this yet, but this may be your cause I am not sure