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    Hmm. Kppp is just a graphical wrapper for pppd, so I thought it should work.
    Don't you have a isp.demo - file?
    A description?

    I found by google:
    http://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/so...ly/004278.html
    perhaps that helps

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    okay... i got a thing with the driver that says......

    This is some kind of reverse-egineered ESS' binary driver for
    linux kernel 2.2.12, which allow it to work under linux kernel
    2.4.18 (it might be the whole 2.4.x series, but I haven't tried it yet)

    It is far from being completed, and it is buggy, VERY buggy.

    It does PPP and fax!

    Trying to use wvdial and kppp to connect caused my computer to lock-up,
    so that I needed to do hard reset. Plain pppd 2.4.1 + chat script connection
    worked for me, but your mileage might differ. In order to use pppd you have to
    set either nodetach or updetach options, or your system will get locked up.

    I CAN NOT AND WILL NOT BE RESPONSIBLE TO ANY DEMAGE, DIRECT OR INDIRECT
    CAUSED BY THIS DRIVER.

    This is hyper experimental driver. do not use it in production systems,
    backup you hard drive frequently and load it only when needed.

    Console, callout device and proc fs support are disabled for now.

    To compile the driver ( recent gcc (tested with 2.96-81)
    and binutils are needed for this):
    ./compile_it

    After that insert the driver and create the needed device entries by
    running as root:
    ./install_it

    You should now be able to dialup using minicom.
    Good luck
    Shachar Raindel
    [email protected]


    Change log:

    2.4-1 - Fix (or more accurately, hack around, in an ugly way) build problems
    with modified kernel versions (the ones that are shipped with RedHat 7.3
    and Mendrake 8.2), documentations update

    2.4 - Initial Release


    then i got a different thing off the page i got it from... by a knoppix user that says........

    Just wanted to report my success of getting my Walmart cheapo Broadxent 3631 modem workin in linux Using knoppix with the kernel 2.4.22 and the driver at http://tx.technion.ac.il/~raindel/ ..
    I’m a windows user so I am proud of myself ☺ except everytime I log into linux I have to do a ./compile ./install then pppd call isp nodetach (without nodetach it locks up linux completely)..

    Kevin
    [email protected]

    the webpage is at.......

    http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/arch.../msg00316.html

    now... that file 'etc/peers/isp' it says on mine that i don't have that file... so how to i create it? how does one go about setting up pppd? (i'm assuming it needs to be set up somehow before you can make it work...)

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    i do the ./compile part the ./install part and i think all of that is working but when i get to the 'pppd call isp nodetach' part... i'm missing a file. i'm a windows user with vertially no linux experience trying to figure this out...lol.

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    Well - one thing I got so far, is, you are a windows user.
    Let's don't talk about it, we all have our dark history - you needn't repeat it all the time.

    On the webpage I found, there is written:

    /etc/ppp/peers/isp
    It should look like:
    Code:
    noauth
    /dev/modem
    115200
    defaultroute
    usepeerdns
    connect "chat -v -e -f /etc/ppp/chat/isp"
    Mark in the browser, copy, paste it to an editor, save it to your home as 'isp'.
    Then copy it as root to /etc/ppp/peers/isp .
    Now we solved one problem and earned a new one.
    That's how live is.
    My prename is Sysiphus.

    I guess you don't have a /etc/ppp/chat/isp file?

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    the pain and suffering continues...lol

    alright... here's where i'm at.... lol
    i made the file call 'isp' containing the code. after a 'oh duh!' moment i figured out how to make a file called 'etc'.... which contains a file called 'ppp' which contains a file called 'peers' which contains the evil 'isp' file containing said code.

    i './compile_it' like hell.... then i go to root and './install_it' it does so but says 'cannot remove /dev/essmodem no such file or directory'
    'cannot remove /dev/modem no such file or diectory'
    i get out of root... try it again.. it says the file is already created and everything is jiggy.
    then i do the dreaded 'pppd call isp nodetach' and get the following message------ 'pppd:can't open options file /etc/ppp/peers/isp: no such file or directory'

    ...and thus the strange pain and suffering... the utter torment continues.. but- as the say - what doesn't kill you will make you stronger. THUS- we can conclude (ladies and gentleman...) that i will most likely be dead in a day or two. and once again- thank you for your help and patience....

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    Before you're dead, you should know one more thing:

    ------- introducing: The Path: --------
    A path starting with a '/' is a absolut path. Your root-dir. Top of all paths.
    If not starting with a '/', it's a relative path to your current location.
    -----------------------------------------
    You should already have '/etc' and '/etc/ppp' and maybee even '/etc/ppp/peers'.

    And you don't need to compile or install again.

    These file(s) are used at runtime only.

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    okay..... here's where i'm at...
    i do 'dir /etc' find ppp....
    i do 'dir /etc/ppp' find peers....
    i do 'dir /etc/ppp/peers' and find where i need to stick my 'isp' file
    i do 'cp isp /etc/ppp/peers' magically 'isp' appears in 'etc/ppp/peers' directory.....
    i do my rain dance (which directions tell me must be done everytime...)
    i type 'pppd call isp nodetach' and get the following... BRAND NEW! ...error message!!!

    pppd: in file /etc/ppp/peers/isp: unrecognized option 'cd'

    awesome huh? lol. um.... what's that mean? lol

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    So we went a step ahead!
    Great!
    Let's party
    old message:
    Code:
    'pppd:can't open options file /etc/ppp/peers/isp: no such file or directory
    new message:
    Code:
     pppd: in file /etc/ppp/peers/isp: unrecognized option 'cd'
    Do you have a file /etc/ppp/chat/isp ?

    I found an example by googling for ..chat/isp:
    Code:
    ABORT BUSY ABORT 'NO CARRIER' ABORT VOICE ABORT 'NO DIALTONE' ABORT 'NO DIAL TONE' ABORT 'NO ANSWER' ABORT DELAYED
    '' ATZ
    OK-AT-OK ATDT,,,<phone of your isp>
    CONNECT \d\c
    I'm not sure how it works, but of course you have to change <phone of your isp> to the dial-in number.

    If you have an idea, where the 'cd' option is comming from?

    Unhappily, there are lot's of different dial-in strategies, options and technics.
    Pap, chap, chat, ...

    The driver-vendor doesn't show examples?
    [/b]

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    alright... i'm getting close...lol

    here's where i'm at......

    i do my whole ./compile .... ./install thing
    i got a file called 'isp' which contains the following info.....

    noauth
    /dev/modem
    115200
    defaultroute
    usepeerdns
    connect "chat -v -e -f /etc/isp2"

    i type 'cp isp /etc/ppp/peers'

    then i got a file (which i dug off of yahoo that goes...)

    ABORT 'BUSY'
    ABORT 'NO CARRIER'
    '' ATZ
    OK ATDT,555-5555
    CONNECT ""
    OGIN: mylogin
    sword: mypassword

    (555-5555 is the phone number, my login is... my login ... my password...)

    i call the file 'isp2' and type 'cp isp2 /etc' (getting high tech here...lol)

    okay... now... i tried the code you gave me- it makes my modem scream but nothing happens. the code above makes it burp... dial the number (and i believe) connect. i can here it dial up. then i get a thing that basically says.......

    'annex command line interpreter' copyright blah blah blah....
    'annex username:'

    i'm guessing this is where i type in my login? then probably the password promped will come up next ...right? only problem is shortly after i type in my login ... my computer freezes up and the only way to get out of it is to do i hard reset. so i guess my questions right now are.......

    a) is annex where i put my login & password? is that like the standard hook-up for pppd/linux? is that my isp? um... what is it? lol

    b) i know with what little is listed with the driver that it's buggy. is there anything i person could add in to the above files that could help out a buggy driver?

    ...any ideas?

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    Great work.

    a) nearly.
    This is where the script should type in the username.
    I'm not sure, but I believe you have to change your script:
    Code:
    OGIN: mylogin
    sword: mypassword
    ->
    annex username: mylogin
    sword: mypassword
    and when seeing the username is detected, change the password-token too.

    But I'm not sure about these login-scripts, how they worked. I used to use kppp (did I mention that? ) and wvdial, who made the dirty stuff behind the scenes for me, and produced similar scripts.

    Perhaps someone else out here?
    -------
    If your patience isn't exhausted, I would send you to google again, to search for login-scripts specific to your provider - (annex?, _annex?) to find out more.

    b) Fixing the buggy driver?
    I wouldn't start to try it.
    You may post your experiences with the script, driver-version, and failure-report (freezes) to the developers, if they maintain a bugreport-list.
    Since nearly no user gives feedback, you needn't worry to disturb them.
    -------
    Hardreset: Do you start the script from an X11-term or from console?
    When it freezes, did you try <ctrl-c>, which sometimes stops a hung script?
    Or <ctrl-alt-backspace> which sometimes stops a hung X11?

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