[knx-3.2] : Install OK, but Rocky

[Cousin Stanley]

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Greetings ....

I've managed an HDD install of Knoppix 3.2
onto the second hard drive in a 2 HDD system
on a 5 year old 250 MHz Compaq with 192 MB
of memory ....

The target hdb install disk was pre-partitioned
using qtparted from the System Rescue CD ( SRCD ) ....

The install was a bit rocky in spots, but eventually
completed successfully and most everything I've tried
seems to work ....

Rocky spots ....

o Had to fdisk /mbr from Win98_SE start-up disk
to be able to boot up at all ....

o Dual booting with Win98_SE on hda and knx-3.2 on hdb
requires using the knx-boot-floppy ....

However, I've since read another post on this forum
that suggests changing the boot order in the BIOS
may alleviate this problem ....

o Install would not complete when choosing the option
to use the swap file, even though I had a swap file
pre-partitioned and marked as such using qtparted ....

I haven't read the docs yet as to how to activate it,
but hopefully, it will be simple to configure ????

Questions ....

o Is it possible/feasible to update this knx-3.2 installation
to the latest knx-3.4 version on-line without
a [ Download --> CD --> HDD_Instal ] cycle ????

o I've managed to get Kmail up and running,
but would like to find Knews as well .....

Knews doesn't show up in the Kpackage list,
and I also tried apt-get un-successfully ....

I did find a Knews source distribution
and tried compiling from source,
but the compile fails ....

I'm sure this is due to my improper settings
in a couple of the Knews config files related
to libjpeg and libpng libraries, and can be fixed,
but it would be nice to find a magic-bullet way
to install it if there is one ....

Any clues / suggestions / comments are welcome ....

Stanley C. Kitching
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[mzilikazi]

Questions ....

o Is it possible/feasible to update this knx-3.2 installation
to the latest knx-3.4 version on-line without
a [ Download --> CD --> HDD_Instal ] cycle ????

Not really. But you can upgrade through apt though to whatever distribution you want.

To get your swap working do:

mkswap /dev/hdx?
swapon /dev/hdx?

When you fdisked the MBR you removed the boot loader for Linux. You can edit ntldr but that's a PITA (well maybe not to a windows user) I would recommend the easy route. Boot Knoppix,
apt-get update
apt-get install grub
grub-install /dev/hda
update-grub

That ougtta get you going. I have no idea about anything KDE. Too complicated for me.

[champagnemojo]

Did apt-get not find Knews or just fail? There is a knews package available through apt-get.

[Cousin Stanley]

....
But you can upgrade through apt though to whatever distribution you want.

To get your swap working do:

mkswap /dev/hdx?
swapon /dev/hdx?

When you fdisked the MBR you removed the boot loader for Linux.
You can edit ntldr but that's a PITA (well maybe not to a windows user)

I would recommend the easy route. Boot Knoppix,
apt-get update
apt-get install grub
grub-install /dev/hda
update-grub

That ougtta get you going. I have no idea about anything KDE. Too complicated for me.

mzilikazi ....

** Thanks for the information ....

** I'll give it a try ....

Cousin Stanley

[Cousin Stanley]

Did apt-get not find Knews or just fail? There is a knews package available through apt-get.

Cousin champagnemojo ....

** Thanks for the reply ....

** After using apt-get update which seemed to provide
** a MAJOR update, apt-get -f install , and finally
** apt-get install knews, I get the following response ....

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root@cpq1:/home/knoppix# apt-get install knews
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
libwine: Depends: libxv1 but it is not going to be installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
root@cpq1:/home/knoppix#
root@cpq1:/home/knoppix# apt-get -f install
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Correcting dependencies... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
libxv1
The following NEW packages will be installed:
libxv1
0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 894 not upgraded.
30 packages not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B/138kB of archives. After unpacking 299kB will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y
(Reading database ... 109715 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking libxv1 (from .../libxv1_4.3.0.dfsg.1-1_i386.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libxv1_4.3.0.dfsg.1-1_i386.deb (--unpack):
trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/lib/libXv.so.1.0', which is also in package xlibs
dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
Errors were encountered while processing:
/var/cache/apt/archives/libxv1_4.3.0.dfsg.1-1_i386.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
root@cpq1:/home/knoppix#

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Now an attempt to deal with libxv1 ....

root@cpq1:/home/knoppix# apt-get -f install
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Correcting dependencies... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
libxv1
The following NEW packages will be installed:
libxv1
0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 894 not upgraded.
30 packages not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B/138kB of archives. After unpacking 299kB will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y
(Reading database ... 109715 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking libxv1 (from .../libxv1_4.3.0.dfsg.1-1_i386.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libxv1_4.3.0.dfsg.1-1_i386.deb (--unpack):
trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/lib/libXv.so.1.0', which is also in package xlibs
dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
Errors were encountered while processing:
/var/cache/apt/archives/libxv1_4.3.0.dfsg.1-1_i386.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
root@cpq1:/home/knoppix#

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Any clues ????

Cousin Stanley

[champagnemojo]

You can get past that issue. You need to install libxv1 telling it to force the overwrite of that one shared file.

Try this...

dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/libxv1_4.3.0.dfsg.1-1_i386.deb

That should fix it...I hope so anyways.

[Cousin Stanley]

You can get past that issue. You need to install libxv1 telling it to force the overwrite of that one shared file.

Try this...

dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/libxv1_4.3.0.dfsg.1-1_i386.deb

That should fix it...I hope so anyways.

Cousin champagnemojo ....

** That did indeed fix it !!!!

** dpkg -force ...................... worked
** apt-get install knews .... worked

*&nbsp Now I just have to figure out how to configure
*&nbsp knews and figure out where I am update-wise
*&nbsp with both Debian & Knoppix after all of this
*&nbsp current apt-get activity ....

*&nbsp Thanks much for your help ....
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Stanley C. Kitching
Human Being
Phoenix, Arizona