tehe, making a kpackage convert of you? here is something that will really blow you away... today while shopping I came across a little proggy in there called apt-listbugs and installed it. I don't think you need kpackage to use it. But, get this, after downloading, before it installs, it fetches the BUG REPORTS on what you are installing ... and asks if you still want to install after seeing that. Actually, wish I had an option to shut it off to allow for unattended installs. But it would have saved me some aggravation when I was trying to install something the other day...there was a bug report about a missing directory (you only had to create the directory for it to rm the directory and go on with the install ) there are some neat things out there and I like the way kpackage lets me windowshop