i would also prefer using grub but, my primary problem is getting LILO written to hda. i am forced to keep XP on my first drive (work) but use hdb for trying out different linux distros. knoppix copies over from disk to my hdb partitions just fine but i can't get it to boot even with the boot disk. not sure how to write a new lilo or grub to the mbr on hda. anyone have ideas. i'm this one problem away from being a Debian user (tried numerous others; Gentoo seems great but too difficult for my current expertise level). love the Knoppix live cd. runs pretty good as is but would like it on my system with a dual-boot option