ok thanks ill go there now..
also though, 2.1 gb is enough to fit the cd image on hdd for a 'poor mans install'
i could do this by copying the image file over, then changing to fdd, and using a boot floppy to boot the image on the hdd. ill do this if i cant find anything else, but id rather i could do it without using the fdd, so i could use the cd drive in knoppix