placed the twinview the exact same way you showed me and no go

im wondering if its because im going off of one video card instead of two

Nvidia 5700LE has two ports....

windows like the dual config but not kdm apparently...

oh yeah and its not different monitors screwing it up they are identical models

the only thing i change from what you showed me was the refresh rates (to match my monitors) and the resolutions

i run at 1600x1200

thanks though