after apt-get update...

[xaviers2002]

For Gowator:

The updates are nice but not critical.... it might be beter to get more comfortable with linux first and then try.

Could You tell what I should do to get more confortable? I really really like linux and not affraid to dedicate time!
Thanks

[Markus]

What I have to do next? I would like to remind You:
The restart is very slow... it takes very long time to go over {STARTING NIS SERVICES YPBIND [BINDING TO YO SERVER} and {RUNNING NTPDATE TO SYNCHRONIZE CLOCK}

update-rc.d -f ntpdate remove will stop ntpdate from running at boot
update-rc.d -f nis remove stops nis from running at boot
apt-get --purge remove nis removes nis with all configuration files from your system so you won't get into the same trouble of an upgrade starting it.

Also, switching from one user to another takes long!!! Are those update really necessary?

A lot of people never upgrade their system and generally it's not needed. Only if you've had the same unstable install for months and try to install a package it may not work because it depends on newer versions of already installed packages. I hope that made any sense. Luckily after months or so enough skills should have been acquired to overcome these quirks and therefore the problem will go away almost by itself.

[Durand Hicks]

Logging out of KDE is real simple. For me, I just right-click the desktop and click logout. Most windows folks probably click on the start button (wheel with a big K) and click log out. Then if you're really lazy, you could put a logout applet in the kicker and just click that to logout.

HTH,

Durand

[xaviers2002]

OK... The problem with "STARTING NIS SERVICES IS GONE"
I still see "RUNNING NTPDATE TO SYNCHRONIZE CLOCK", BUT IT DOESN'T TAKE THAT LONG AS BEFORE.

I think my biggest consern now, is the fact that my box is slow due to all the programs running in the background! What I have to do to preventing them to start at login?
What I have to do if I want to update and upgrade only 1 program? Because everything has started with JAVA. I went for APT-GET UPDATE, and I was not expecting so many updates!!! Also I was not expecting all the programs up and running at start up like in W$!!!

Thank You.

[tnrocketman]

Post here the output of ll if you don't know which services you can do without. The ones you know you won't need can be purged with apt.

I have:
bind9
portmap
apmd
cupsys
dbus-1
dhcp3-server
makedev
partimaged
rsync
ssh
sslwrap
xfs
bluez-utils
squid
fetchmail
kdm
xdm
Thanks for any help you can offer me. Also, how can I modify the startup script otherwise?

[Markus]

Good god! I didn't mean that I would know the answer, just that someone would, so don't blame me if this completely borks up your install.
Some services listen for connections which can be a security risk, check with:
netstat -tap|grep LISTEN and nmap localhost

Anyway I might as well take a shot at this so:

bind9 ,purge, DNS server, most people use what their ISP provides and you would know if you needed it.
portmap ,purge, Remote Procedure Call is used by NFS and NIS servers which you probably aren't running
apmd ,keep, your Power Management
cupsys ,keep, the printing server
dbus-1 ,remove, used for interapplication communication, I purged it without effects but I'm not sure about this
dhcp3-server ,purge, same as with bind you probably don't need this unless your machine is a dhcp server/router
makedev ,keep, not sure about this
partimaged ,remove, a drive imaging/ghosting software which you can start if you need it
rsync ,remove, used for transfering differences of files over a network
ssh ,remove, like encrypted telnet, good to have if you want remote login to your computer
sslwrap ,remove, encryption for mail servers etc., not sure.
xfs ,keep, the font server for X-windows
bluez-utils ,can't say, it's for bluetooth which I don't know if you have
squid ,purge, a proxy server you probably aren't running
fetchmail ,purge, the name says it all and you probably have a normal mail account used with kmail/mozilla
kdm ,keep, your window manager with login screen
xdm ,remove, can someone who actually runs Knoppix confirm that it still uses kdm?

purge after a service means apt-get --purge remove servicename which completely removes it from your computer
remove means update-rc.d -f servicename remove which just removes the startup links
If you want one of them back, say ssh do: update-rc.d ssh defaults
I also don't run any inetd services, check /etc/inetd.conf and comment out everything with a #