Hello....just an observation. I noticed that when I try to play streaming audio using xmms in KDE desktop, xmms will sometimes hang or not work at all. But if I switch to fluxbox or icewm, it works flawlessly. The only media player I can get to work in KDE is KAFFEINE. That is fine cause it does what I want it to. Also REAL PLAYER will NOT work in KDE, but works great using icewm and fluxbox. Is this noticed by any other users? I use knoppix 3.4.