Hi Helios......I hear ya! Its happenedto me twice, which was enough to convince me that this has got to be the STUPIDEST windows environment there is. I dont know why they even include it in Knoppix cause it can probably be replaced with one that actually lets you get out! My advice is to just ignore it and use FLUXBOX or ICEWM which are very nice. If you get stuck in LARS, I have NO CLUE how to get out either! Just re boot and when you get to the login, go to where you choose your windows manager and pick SOMETHING ELSE!!!! bob