thx BaldYeti

its really 2 things..for my own I can just apt-get and update.. but I like giving out kanotix CD's .. it gives the option of the proper deb install to the winBlows users i give the CD to... now I have 2 choices... its not so attractive.
I might try the old image kano just said he would restore the links... but Ill torrent it from home 2night.