trouble fish:// ing?

[A. Jorge Garcia]

I had to back-up my home as I messed-up my knoppix hdinstall and needed to reinstall the KNOPPIX CD with knoppix-installer. So I fished to another hdd on my home network and dragged and dropped all my home dirs on this PC to the other. OK, no problem.

So, I reinstalled KNOPPIX on this box and tried to reverse the process by copying the backed-up files from the other PC using fish again. The problem is that now I can only do so one file at a time or fish stalls out!

Anyone else have a problem with fish? Am I missing something? I've done this before with other PCs and all was a ok....

Regards,
AJG

[Markus]

A bit of guess here but you need to allow icmp which fish uses to check the connection.

[A. Jorge Garcia]

I enabled ssh on both PCs using

update-rc.d ssh defaults

shouldn't that set it all up to work?

TIA,
AJG

[Markus]

I enabled ssh on both PCs using

update-rc.d ssh defaults

shouldn't that set it all up to work?

It should.
Have you checked if the keys are generated on the server? If not do:
su
ssh-keygen -t rsa -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key
ssh-keygen -t rsa -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key
ssh-keygen -t rsa -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key

You might want to ssh in the first time from the shell with ssh login@ip_or_hostname as I'm not sure how fish accepts the keys, a popup perhaps?

EDIT: Hmm, the keys are probably fine if you can connect. Why I asked about icmp is that I once had fish stalling like you said and the solution was to accept ping in the router.

[A. Jorge Garcia]

OK, the keys are probably OK as I can sftp and ssh from shell. I can even fish from konqueror but I can only copy one file at a time, not a whole dir or home fir for that matter!

What can I do with icmp, this is new to me.

BTW, I had reinstalled both these machines with KNOPPIX 3.6 2004.0816 and used update-rc.d before this problem started!

TIA,
AJG

[CrashedAgain]

OK, the keys are probably OK as I can sftp and ssh from shell. I can even fish from konqueror but I can only copy one file at a time, not a whole dir or home fir for that matter!

What can I do with icmp, this is new to me.

BTW, I had reinstalled both these machines with KNOPPIX 3.6 2004.0816 and used update-rc.d before this problem started!

TIA,
AJG

I think you can ONLY fish from konqueror. Isn't fish a KDE protocol? Outside of Konq you have to use ssh.
I don't know why you can only copy one file at a time, normally I can copy multiple files or directories with fish in konqueror using drag'n'drop.
Besides regenerating the host keys as above, the other cause of problems with fish is with the known_hosts file. If fish refuses to connect (usually just gives an error 'unable to connect to <ip address>'), just delete the hidden file /home/user/.ssh/known_hosts & retry, fish will give a warning message about an unknown host then recreate the known_hosts file when you confirm to proceed.

[Markus]

OK, the keys are probably OK as I can sftp and ssh from shell. I can even fish from konqueror but I can only copy one file at a time, not a whole dir or home fir for that matter!

Ok, forget about the keys then.

What can I do with icmp, this is new to me.

icmp is a protocol used by ping, although I think fish needs mtu which still goes over icmp. Have you looked in the router for any blocking of icmp/ping or tried pinging the computers?
Also do you run software firewalls, if yes: disable them just for testing.

BTW, I had reinstalled both these machines with KNOPPIX 3.6 2004.0816 and used update-rc.d before this problem started!

You mean it worked before you used update-rc or before reinstalling?

Just to rule out fish, try WinSCP from a windows box.

[A. Jorge Garcia]

I mean everything worked fine before reinstalling.

However, as far as I recall, originally I installed every PC the same way as I reinstalled them now! In other words, knoppix-installer from a liveCD boot of KNOPPIX 3.6 and then rebooting as root to update-rc.d ssh defaults not to mention editting lilo.conf for dual boot and using netcardconfig to setup DHCP.

I do all this with all my hdinstalled dual boot PCs as I find ssh, sftp and fish (in konqueror) very useful (better than telnet and ftp, BTW)! I never had a problem like this....

TIA,
AJG

[Markus]

Sorry to say but if pinging worked and the install was just like before, I'm out of ideas.
Perhaps do a testdisk at bootup to rule out a faulty cd.

One thing more to look at is:
cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_all /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_broadcasts
You should get two zeros as output.

[A. Jorge Garcia]

I give up! I don't know what's wrong with this dubm thing. I got the 2 zeros, BTW. I'll just refer to my backups on an as needed basis....

BTW, maybe I should have set-up /home in a separate partition to begin with! I've never done that. Is it hard to do?

TIA,
AJG