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  1. #11
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    OK!

    Okay - pulling down Firefox now from the unstable link there. This might be the easiest way! Thanks.

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    Dependencies, of course!

    When I try to install Firefox it was missing two dependencies when I tried to install using dpkg -i. One of them could be installed, the other in turn depended on something else:

    libpango needed libpango common.

    BUT when I tried to dpkg libpango-common, it in turn needed libpango! I seem to recall that in my Red Hat days I could install two rpms symaltaneously to avoid this problem. Is there a similar concept with debian packages?

    Edit: - I went ahead with apt-get and the mirrors I used must have upgrade the firefox, since they now had version 1.0! So I am all set. Thanks for the help. I would be curious re the answer to the above for future reference, however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A. Jorge Garcia
    I'm sick of apt-get breaking down on me!
    *cough* kanotix *cough*
    After all, what's the point of running debian if you don't use apt which I think is it's best feature.

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    Re: Install Apps

    Quote Originally Posted by jeopardyracing
    I'd like to install the latest version of Firefox, but I don't want to use apt-get on m y HD install of Knopp because the versions listed (even when I apt-cache updated!) aren't the newest version.

    What directory should I expand the Firefox app in? I've done it in my user directory in the past but I really don't like that approach. Is /usr/bin best?
    'apt-cache updated' you do mean apt-get update do you not? Check /etc/apt/sources.list , there should be at least one unstable mirror listed,

    'apt-get -t unstable install firefox'

    should get you the most recent version.

    Quote Originally Posted by A. Jorge Garcia
    I find it easier to download the *.deb I want from http://packages.debian.org and then use kpackage. I'm sick of apt-get breaking down on me!
    This is surprising, since kpackage uses apt to download then both kpackage and apt use dpkg to do the actual install. The advantage of using apt is that it downloads &/or updates dependencies. If you download then install the downloaded package with either kpackage or dpkg you must take care of dependencies manually.
    Almost alway, if there is a problem with apt it is not apt's doing, it can usually be traced back to a broken package. This is why *cough* kanotix *cough* seems so much better, there are more broken /poorly installed packages in Knoppix. Like the missing file in frozen-bubble=data, etc.

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    Re: Install Apps

    Quote Originally Posted by CrashedAgain

    This is surprising, since kpackage uses apt to download then both kpackage and apt use dpkg to do the actual install. The advantage of using apt is that it downloads &/or updates dependencies. If you download then install the downloaded package with either kpackage or dpkg you must take care of dependencies manually.
    Almost alway, if there is a problem with apt it is not apt's doing, it can usually be traced back to a broken package. This is why *cough* kanotix *cough* seems so much better, there are more broken /poorly installed packages in Knoppix. Like the missing file in frozen-bubble=data, etc.
    Acually kpackage is a frontend to apt-get, which is a front end to dpkg.

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    Re: Install Apps

    Quote Originally Posted by firebyrd10

    Acually kpackage is a frontend to apt-get, which is a front end to dpkg.
    Sort of true. Dpkg won't do downloads. Apt does the download then callsl dpkg to do the actual install. Kpackage is a front end to apt but if it is installing an already downloaded package it skips the apt part & just calls dpkg to do the install. This is when you end up with the " unable to install package x; package x depends on package y but it is not going to be installed" errors because dpkg isn't capable of searching for packages.

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