K3D burning

**Guider** · 01-18-2005, 09:13 PM

I only have the knoppix live CD, because it won't install to the HD properly....anyway, I want to burn DAmnSmallLinux to a CD, but the only way I can do that is with K3D.... but I can't take the knoppix CD out to put a blank CD in can I?
What am I supposed to do? How do I burn damnsmalllinux to CD using knoppix? I only have like 256mb Ram, what am I supposed to do?

**Harry Kuhman** · 01-18-2005, 09:27 PM

Originally Posted by Guider

I only have the knoppix live CD, because it won't install to the HD properly....anyway, I want to burn DAmnSmallLinux to a CD, but the only way I can do that is with K3D.... but I can't take the knoppix CD out to put a blank CD in can I?
What am I supposed to do? How do I burn damnsmalllinux to CD using knoppix? I only have like 256mb Ram, what am I supposed to do?

Generally people use a different OS, like windows. You only have Knoppix and not Windows and you have no OS installed at all on the hard disk?

It's not clear from this how you managed to burn your Knoppix CD. You could certainly install Debian and burn DSL with that. I would think you would want some form of OS installed on the hard drive (this is one reason for that). You might also consider adding another CD drive (CD-ROM drives are dirt cheap now, even CDRW drives are extremely inexpensive, some times either are freee after rebates), particularly if you are going to keep running from CD's.

Also, you might consider having some friends and having one of them burn DSL for you. If that's not an option, you can buy a copy of DSL. Since it's small enough to install "toram" that should help you burn CD's. (although I'm not sure if the DSL burning program supports burning from ISO files or not).

**markpreston** · 01-18-2005, 09:32 PM

Have you tried to install Knoppix to the hard drive using knoppix-installer, or a command such as knoppix tohd=/dev/hda1, or both?

**rrfish72** · 01-18-2005, 09:48 PM

Next post. Sorry double posted.

**rrfish72** · 01-18-2005, 09:51 PM

Try some free ISO burners that work in windows:

http://www.snapfiles.com/get/deepburner.html

http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm

**Markus** · 01-18-2005, 09:53 PM

Originally Posted by Harry Kuhman

(although I'm not sure if the DSL burning program supports burning from ISO files or not).

DSL uses cdrecord which k3b is just a frontend to (as well as to others), so yes, you can burn an iso with DSL:
cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc driveropts=burnfree,noforcespeed fs=14M speed=12 -dao -eject -overburn -v filename.iso (check the device)
or even just: cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc speed=4 -eject -v filename.iso

**green1** · 01-19-2005, 03:29 AM

Originally Posted by Markus

Originally Posted by Harry Kuhman

(although I'm not sure if the DSL burning program supports burning from ISO files or not).

DSL uses cdrecord which k3b is just a frontend to (as well as to others), so yes, you can burn an iso with DSL:
cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc driveropts=burnfree,noforcespeed fs=14M speed=12 -dao -eject -overburn -v filename.iso (check the device)
or even just: cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc speed=4 -eject -v filename.iso

To use cdrecord in DSL, you'll need the to use the CD burner. If the CD burner is the only CD drive in the machine, the DSL CD will be using it. When you boot DSL, use the boot option

dsl toram

along with any other boot options you may use. This will load the image into RAM and let you eject the CD and have it available for use to burn your CD.

**Guider** · 01-19-2005, 04:04 AM

I would have to burn DSL first though.... which I can't.....

**CrashedAgain** · 01-19-2005, 05:11 AM

You could try installing knoppix as a 'poorman's install' which would then run off the HD leaving the CD drive free. Or , the latest kanotix has a 'fromiso' cheatcode which I think will run a copy of the iso file located on the HD; ie not an actual install...should just be able to run the downloaded iso without having to burn a CD first.

**Harry Kuhman** · 01-19-2005, 05:25 AM

Originally Posted by green1

To use cdrecord in DSL, you'll need the to use the CD burner. If the CD burner is the only CD drive in the machine, the DSL CD will be using it. When you boot DSL, use the boot option

dsl toram

This is the best way to do it, and I did mention toram in my last post. There is another way to deal with it with only one CD drive, and that is to burn the DSL iso as the first session of a multi-session CD. You can then write all of your files to a second session while the CD is still in the drive (about 650 meg remains available on a typical 700 meg CDR). The resulting CD will no longer be bootable, but it will have the recovered files on it, and all will have been done without the toram option.

None of this, of course, helps a person who can't burn a CD to start with.