thanks for the reply,

Its strange as the keyboard does NOT seem to work in KDE or fluxbox but if i push ctrl alt f2 it drops out
and i can do stuff at the command line.

the problem is i need to use knoppix 3.3 as i need to boot the knoppix folder off the hd using a floppy.
I have tried Damn small linux and done a hd install on that which works fine accept it doesnt come with
kismet and the aptget one doesnt work properly for it.

I dont know what else to do now.