The lowest speed I could burn at was 8x - the drive acts like it supports 4x right up until it reads the new CD-R, then the lowest setting allowed is 8x - so that was the speed these were burned at. I burned another disk and it did the same thing too. I did some Googling and it turns out CD-Rs apparently have a minimum speed encoded on them; I find hard to imagine that people took time out of their lives to make it HARDER for slow systems to burn CDs . So anyway, these were burned at 8x and my system is fast enough to ensure no buffer underruns...Easy CD Creator didn't report any.

Failsafe results in the same hang as the others, so I suppose cheat codes won't do it

I thought I already tried expert, but maybe expert and knoppix expert are two different things. I'll see what a reboot does.

Thanks,

-- Joren