ok so i had better luck using the konsole but yet again still problems in the end. i got up to the modprobe ndiswrapper then got error. i did the dmesg but i dont quite understand it. Blackbomb you had suggested i try a different driver. what do you mean by that. i chose the driver for win98 off my dlink cd because that is the version of windows i have. do you mean i try a driver for different version of windows?