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Thread: key ID 57E37087 vs BA8F038D

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    key ID 57E37087 vs BA8F038D

    I have downloaded KNOPPIX_V4.0.2DVD-2005-09-23-EN.iso and the corresponding
    md5, sha1, and asc files via:

    http://knopper.net/knoppix-mirrors/d...de/knoppix-dvd

    When I use gpg, I get this information (after I have retreived the identified key):

    gpg: Signature made Sat Sep 24 15:59:30 2005 NZST using DSA key ID 57E37087
    gpg: Good signature from "Klaus Knopper <[email protected]>"
    gpg: aka "Klaus Knopper <[email protected]>"
    gpg: aka "Klaus Knopper <[email protected]>"
    gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature!
    gpg: There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner.
    Primary key fingerprint: 0E57 3DA0 F139 69EF 1DD5 ACAA 3798 E3D7 57E3 7087

    Now, the Downloading FAQ leads me to expect a key ID of BA8F038D.

    So, what is the story here?

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    I have the same problem - is this ISO corrupt?

    On trying to verify KNOPPIX_V5.1.1DVD-2007-01-04-EN.iso.md5.asc I also get DSA key ID 57E37087 - not the expected one. Would really like to know what's going on here...

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    Further looking suggests it might be okay

    going to keyserver.net and looking for knoppix lists:

    Klaus Knopper <[email protected]> 0x57E37087 1024/1024 2000/05/06 Never

    So apparently somebody claiming to be Klaus registered that key back in 2000. Still it's odd that there are so few references to that key on the net.

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    being a bit paranoid...

    In my gpg keyring, it appears that
    key BA8F038D is signed by key 57E37087 ;
    but key 57E37087 is not signed by key BA8F038D.

    Moreover,
    $ gpg --verify KNOPPIX_V5.1.1DVD-2007-01-04-EN.iso.md5.asc
    gpg: Signature made ven 05 gen 2007 04:15:35 CET using DSA key ID 57E37087
    gpg: Good signature from "Klaus Knopper <[email protected]>"
    gpg: aka "Klaus Knopper <[email protected]>"
    gpg: aka "Klaus Knopper <[email protected]>"
    gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature!
    gpg: There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner.
    Primary key fingerprint: 0E57 3DA0 F139 69EF 1DD5 ACAA 3798 E3D7 57E3 7087

    So, verifying the downloaded image by using key 57E37087 does not provide any security at all.

    I could imagine a situation like this:
    Mr Knopper builds Knoppix and signs the image with key BA8F038D ;
    the attacker creates a key 57E37087 and it signs BA8F038D with it,
    the attacker tampers Knoppix and signs with 57E37087.

    I know this sounds a bit paranoid; but I will feel safer if Mr Knopper may post the gpg fingerprint of both keys in the FAQ.

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