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    Boot problem

    I have downloaded the knoppix live 4.0 2CD version, EN. I burnt it on a 700mb, 80 min CD-R at a 4x burning speed. When I Boot my com, I get the welcome screen "If you want to start knoppix press return etc." I press return, a black screen with a linux penguin turns up, and there it stays. I started up my xbox, and sat there playing for about 20 minutes. still same screen. Does knoppix take a heck of a lot time to boot, or is something wrong with my disc/com? I've tried running the TestCD command, then I get a black screen, and it stays black. Any ideas?

    (This is my first post here. I do not intend to write alot here, but I will be here reading as much as I possibly can. I decided to include this little welcoming message in this post. Hello everyone)

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    Re: Boot problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Neth
    Does knoppix take a heck of a lot time to boot, or is something wrong with my disc/com?
    Something is wrong. Knoppix should boot in just a few minutes, usually more than one but less than 5. I've only sen it take extremely long times on old memory starved systems (such as 64 meg P90s). The disc might be ok, you might need some "cheat codes" to help it through the boot process.

    Did you verify the download with the md5 check (you didn't comment on that)? If not you could still do that if you still have the original ISO. Also read the cheat codes section of the wiki. I would suggest trying the dma and/or noacpi cheat codes. You might also try knoppix failsafe or try booting in expert mode.

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    Re: Boot problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Kuhman
    Quote Originally Posted by Neth
    Does knoppix take a heck of a lot time to boot, or is something wrong with my disc/com?
    Something is wrong. Knoppix should boot in just a few minutes, usually more than one but less than 5. I've only sen it take extremely long times on old memory starved systems (such as 64 meg P90s). The disc might be ok, you might need some "cheat codes" to help it through the boot process.

    Did you verify the download with the md5 check (you didn't comment on that)? If not you could still do that if you still have the original ISO. Also read the cheat codes section of the wiki. I would suggest trying the dma and/or noacpi cheat codes. You might also try knoppix failsafe or try booting in expert mode.
    I just compared my MD5 check on my ISO file with WinMD5Sum, and it did not compare. I'll guess I'll just download it again and return to this thread again if I still have the same problem. Sorry about taking up your time

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    Re: Boot problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Neth
    I just compared my MD5 check on my ISO file with WinMD5Sum, and it did not compare. I'll guess I'll just download it again....
    This is why I highly recommend BitTorrent over the mirrors, I have had bad downloads from the mirrors about 1/2 the time (so no assurances you will not have another bad one if you use the mirrors again), BitTorrent downloads have always been good for me. And faster than the mirrors. And depending on your corruption, BitTorrent can sometimes even repair bad downloads from a Mirror and prevent the need for a full download.
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    Verifying of md5 checksum and burning a CD at slow speed are important.

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    Re: Boot problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Kuhman
    Quote Originally Posted by Neth
    I just compared my MD5 check on my ISO file with WinMD5Sum, and it did not compare. I'll guess I'll just download it again....
    This is why I highly recommend BitTorrent over the mirrors, I have had bad downloads from the mirrors about 1/2 the time (so no assurances you will not have another bad one if you use the mirrors again), BitTorrent downloads have always been good for me. And faster than the mirrors. And depending on your corruption, BitTorrent can sometimes even repair bad downloads from a Mirror and prevent the need for a full download.
    I downloaded it from bittorrent.

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    Neth:

    Just a quick thought. Does your system have enough memory to boot into KDE? You should have somewhere around 256Meg, or more, for it to work well.

    When you re-download by Bittorrent, you can try letting it overwrite to the existing location and it should repair your file, if it is indeed corrupted. It's unusual for a torrent download to be corrupt, but it is possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ckamin
    Neth:

    Just a quick thought. Does your system have enough memory to boot into KDE? You should have somewhere around 256Meg, or more, for it to work well.

    When you re-download by Bittorrent, you can try letting it overwrite to the existing location and it should repair your file, if it is indeed corrupted. It's unusual for a torrent download to be corrupt, but it is possible.
    Well, I'm on 2048mb at the moment, so.

    I've re-downloaded it now, I've checked it with MD5Summer, it's green. I'm going to burn it in a few mins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neth
    Quote Originally Posted by ckamin
    Neth:

    Just a quick thought. Does your system have enough memory to boot into KDE? You should have somewhere around 256Meg, or more, for it to work well.

    When you re-download by Bittorrent, you can try letting it overwrite to the existing location and it should repair your file, if it is indeed corrupted. It's unusual for a torrent download to be corrupt, but it is possible.
    Well, I'm on 2048mb at the moment, so.

    I've re-downloaded it now, I've checked it with MD5Summer, it's green. I'm going to burn it in a few mins.
    Everything was great with the download. However, it still didn't work. I burnt at 4x on CD-R, and I get a black screen.

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    Have you tried any cheatcodes? Especially the ones that Harry mentioned previously? Run through some of them, like the nousb, noddc, failsafe, etc. You might have some hardware that is troublesome. It's just a matter of getting past it, if that is the problem.

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    KDE @ 1024x768x16 bit color

    Quote Originally Posted by ckamin
    Neth:

    Just a quick thought. Does your system have enough memory to boot into KDE? You should have somewhere around 256Meg, or more, for it to work well.
    Well, I don't think KDE needs 256 MB, I've once tried Knoppix on my gateway/router/server PC, with only 128 MB of RAM (and a whopping 2 MB graphics RAM on the PCI graphics card), and, well, it did run quite well, slow but stable and quite usable (KDE @ 1024x768x16 bit color). So it should work out even on old hardware.

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