rickenbacherus,

Thanks for advice. I have found no one at all arrogant in this forum. I really appreciate the help and know it takes some patience foe an expert user to answer such basic questions. Forums like this can only help make Linux more popular. On the other hand a forum where members have the zeal of Al Quata and are all about my OS can beat up your OS, where windows users are treated as if they are idiots, and where any criticism is taken like a slap to the face will keep people away. Thanks again...................bb