Knoppix 5.0.1 Low speed when loading net pages

**Harry Kuhman** · 09-05-2006, 12:02 AM

Originally Posted by Rich_Es

So your advice is don't install knoppix as it is known to have problems once installed. That is GOOD advice then?

Yes, I believe it is. It's far different to say "all Linux (in fact all opertaing stystems) can have problems", than saying that Knoppix is primarily a Live CD and some of the choices that went into making the Live CD are known to cause problems when it is installed to a hard disk. I know of absolutely no good reason to install Knoppix rather than a distro intended for hard disk install like Debian etch. Since the installer is free to install all of the application included in Knoppix into Debian etch as well, there is no upside to fighting with the known problems of Live CD installed into a world where it does not belong. If you feel that you want to fight those problems, go right ahead. But new users should be cautioned about the problems praticularly when there are much better alternatives, rather than just told to install Knoppix.

**Rich_Es** · 09-05-2006, 01:11 AM

So, on a knoppix forum you would tell a new user (who is having problems with the live cd) just not to use it and even though the developers went to a lot of trouble to include install-files, that installed on the harddrive it doesn't work either. You never know, by doing an install, new users might learn something. Whatsmore you said a newbie should try Debian Etch ?!
Why not just go the whole hog and tell everyone on the forum that Knoppix is no good, go get PClinuxOS instead?

Just out of curiosity, for the OP, what is your solution for his slow "live" knoppix ? I am intrigued.

**Vorian** · 09-05-2006, 01:22 AM

Thats why Knoppix is only good camping mirror. Live CD's are good for two reasons

1. test drive
2. fix windows

If a distro is only good for a test drive, what good is it?

**Harry Kuhman** · 09-05-2006, 02:34 AM

Originally Posted by Rich_Es

So, on a knoppix forum you would tell a new user (who is having problems with the live cd) just not to use it and even though the developers went to a lot of trouble to include install-files, that installed on the harddrive it doesn't work either. You never know, by doing an install, new users might learn something. Whatsmore you said a newbie should try Debian Etch ?!
Why not just go the whole hog and tell everyone on the forum that Knoppix is no good, go get PClinuxOS instead?

Just out of curiosity, for the OP, what is your solution for his slow "live" knoppix ? I am intrigued.

I didn't tell a new user just not to use the Live CD.

The developers didn't go to a heck of a lot of trouble, there have been known problems with a hard disk install for years. The oldest problem in the HDD Install forum is networking that was fine from the Live CD breaking after an "install", and I still see reports of the same symptoms. Klaus even so much as admitted that previous versions were not suitable for install when he claimed that this version was finally ready for install, but there are a lot of problems in the current release and the install is one of them. Just because someone managed to convince Klaus to include some install scripts is not reason to advice every noob to install Knoppix, when we know it leads to many problems.

The user might learn a lot by smashing their hand with a hammer, as you say, you never know. But hand smashing or knoppix installing, either one would be irresponsiable to suggest.

Knoppix is based on Debian (although an incompatable mix of Debian distros that are delicately balanced and usually break when installed to hard disk). So it's reasonable to suggest someone who likes what they see on the Live CD install Debian, they can apt-get any application in Knoppix. I don't advise against other Linux distros, and I'm not saying that Debian is the best distro for all users, but it's a much better place to start than installing Knoppix.

Michael has been fighting with several problems since he started posting. I don't know what his speed problem is. But I do know that, although Knoppix will load a browser slightly slower than either my Debian or my Windows systems, it surfs just fine after the browser is loaded. He was given bad advice that the speed problem was due to running from the Live CD.

**Rich_Es** · 09-05-2006, 03:24 PM

Ok, Here is a good distro chooser for anybody that isn't sure what is right for them:-
http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/in...lect_lang=true

Rich

PS: I can't remember now if "Do you want an installable distro that works?" is one of the options.