Quote Originally Posted by Harry Kuhman

I'm not sure what you mean by dialing. Most of the rest of the world uses it to imply some way to route a call or connection. But PPPoE does not route the call. It can't connect to different locations. It only connectes to the dslam that is on the other side of the DSL line. The complain here was that PPPoE software can't be used because it requires a phone number and the user doesn't have one to give it. That's just bogus.
Plain and simple we do not agree, and we are not going to agree except to disagree.

I am very aware of how PPPoE works, for the non computer persons, the process of connecting PPPoE is called dialing, if that term you can not deal with use connect. I've found that persons who do not understand the underlying technology from an ISP help desk perspective can under stand "dials/connect" regardless of the fact that PPPoE is not dialing a phone number. PPPoE MUST CONNECT, if PPPoE is not connected there is no connection to outside network or internet.

PPPoE for all purposes is a "connect up" connection that can and does time out, all ISP settable. I can make your PPPoE connection time out after 30 seconds if I wanted to and you would have to keep reconnecting it. The ISP may not expire it as quick as a real V.90/92 dial MODEM connection but it does time out. The only thing that has changed in the equation is the transport mechanism, which in this case its Ethernet, its still PPP. Its still a connect up connection. Its not the same as a traditional QAM based cable co or a regular DSL circuit.

winvirus XP is hiding the fact that you are CONNECTING UP the PPP very similar to a NORMAL MODEM DIAL UP PPP. In the whole equation the only thing that changed is the transport mechanism ethernet versus a modem. At the end of the day its still PPP.

Turn the computer off the connection is terminated, till you turn the computer back on AND make a request to the internet.

You and I are not going to agree, and thats the end of it. This side discussion does not solve the issue at hand. The whole point of it in my post is that PPPoE has to connect and its got a user/pass associated with it, and most non computer people can understand that it has to connecct aka dial (even if its the wrong term and not really dialing any thing) to operate. Dial and conncet are synonmous in the non computer aka real world.

Geting a router would solve the issue, there is some resistance to doing so by the original poster. There is a incompatbility with the PPPoE setup of Knoppix and possibly other Linux variants. Trying a different distro may solve the issue and then it cab be determined that its a Knoppix issue v. a Linix issue.

The sniffing of the packets sent by the system from another computer is a pretty advanced test and may not be the least resitance route to get them onto Linux, a router would. I would like to solve an issue with onboard Highpoint IDE RAID controllers and my Soyo Dragon Ultra motherboard. I am sure that all that stuff on the screen from the kernel panic and stacks and CPU registers means something to a kernel level programmer, it doesn't mean a thing to me as I don't do that type of programming.

Time to part ways and agree to disagree.