Thanks Forester for taking the time to explain clearly the various relationships. I know Knoppix has no login. But for some reason the German forum seemed to indicate otherwise. It was a loose comment, so I am just building my beginners database of Linux knowledge. I have tried other full installations, including Debian. However, my system seems to respond very poorly to the extended Fat file system,which many other distros use. Reiser is running like a charm. I like LXDE because I am now familiar with it. Basically, like I said - I am trying to build my knowledge base. I do intend to go full, something - I am not sure yet what it will be. I will never be satisifed with any other FS performance having used Knoppix. Quite the conumdrum. Maybe my AMD processor has something to do with this. Thanks again for taking the time to map it all for me. This should be useful to many other beginners.