6.7.1 DVD Weakest Link

[luther]

Hi,
Synaptic Package Manager shows b43 installed, BUT Modprobe can't find it:

knoppix@Microknoppix:~$ sudo modinfo ssb
filename:       /lib/modules/3.0.4/kernel/drivers/ssb/ssb.ko
license:        GPL
description:    Sonics Silicon Backplane driver
alias:          pci:v000014E4d0000432Bsv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:          pci:v000014E4d00004329sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:          pci:v000014E4d00004328sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:          pci:v000014E4d00004325sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:          pci:v000014E4d00004324sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:          pci:v000014E4d00004321sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:          pci:v000014E4d00004320sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:          pci:v000014E4d00004319sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:          pci:v000014A4d00004318sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:          pci:v000014E4d00004318sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:          pci:v000014E4d00004315sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:          pci:v000014E4d00004312sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:          pci:v000014E4d00004311sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:          pci:v000014E4d00004307sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:          pci:v000014E4d00004306sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:          pci:v000014E4d00004301sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
depends:        pcmcia
vermagic:       3.0.4 SMP preempt mod_unload modversions 486 
knoppix@Microknoppix:~$ sudo modinfo b43
ERROR: modinfo: could not find module b43
knoppix@Microknoppix:~$ sudo modprobe ssb
knoppix@Microknoppix:~$ sudo modprobe b43
FATAL: Module b43 not found.
knoppix@Microknoppix:~$

b43_eod..jpgb43_syn..jpg

END OF BETA TEST

[utu]

@ luther

The b43 maintainers are not likely at fault here.
Your demonstration of the b43 problem is fine. BUT,
what we need now is something better than a theory
on where things are going wrong in Debian-Knoppix.

We need a demonstration that shows how one might actually
get b43 installed correctly in Knoppix 6.7.1.

There are several possibilities:
1. on a fresh Knoppix 6.7.1 try installing b43 first, not wl;
2. on a 6.7.1 that has been corrupted with blacklists,
remove these and show that things clear up (if they do);
3. as an alternative to 2, if the initial wl install was via
Synaptic, do a complete uninstall of wl then bring in b43; or
4. show in the Debian-Knoppix computer code
where things need to be changed.

Possibly one of the first three would be adequate to
demonstrate the theory. We need a demonstration to
motivate someone with the talent to discuss the fourth.

[luther]

We need a demonstration that shows how one might actually
get b43 installed correctly in Knoppix 6.7.1.

There are several possibilities:
1. on a fresh Knoppix 6.7.1 try installing b43 first, not wl;

utu,
I would start here at #1 and eliminate the install to flash, done previously.
Please call the shots, since both LiveCD and LiveDVD versions are at my disposal.
Ball in your court.
luther

[luther]

No difference than flash install:

knoppix@Microknoppix:~$ sudo lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by
ipv6                  204834  10 
parport_pc             24471  0 
ppdev                   4123  0 
lp                      6082  0 
parport                21550  3 parport_pc,ppdev,lp
radeon                568836  2 
ttm                    37284  1 radeon
drm_kms_helper         17759  1 radeon
snd_usb_audio          61725  0 
snd_hwdep               3967  1 snd_usb_audio
snd_usbmidi_lib        12457  1 snd_usb_audio
snd_seq_midi            3208  0 
snd_rawmidi            12490  2 snd_usbmidi_lib,snd_seq_midi
hp_wmi                  5737  0 
sparse_keymap           1996  1 hp_wmi
battery                 8245  0 
ac                      2369  0 
wmi                     5883  1 hp_wmi
snd_atiixp_modem        6702  0 
8250_pci               19757  0 
tifm_7xx1               3135  0 
snd_atiixp              9174  1 
snd_ac97_codec         77917  2 snd_atiixp_modem,snd_atiixp
8139too                14660  0 
8139cp                 12870  0 
pcmcia                 24796  0 
8250                   15664  1 8250_pci
tifm_core               3285  1 tifm_7xx1
mii                     2799  2 8139too,8139cp
i2c_piix4               6596  0 
k8temp                  2423  0 
serial_core            12138  1 8250
yenta_socket           15538  0 
ac97_bus                 742  1 snd_ac97_codec
joydev                  6662  0 
knoppix@Microknoppix:~$ sudo modprobe -r wl
FATAL: Module wl not found.
knoppix@Microknoppix:~$ sudo modprobe -r b43
FATAL: Module b43 not found.
knoppix@Microknoppix:~$ sudo modprobe -r ssb
knoppix@Microknoppix:~$ sudo modprobe -a ssb
knoppix@Microknoppix:~$ sudo modprobe -a b43
WARNING: Module b43 not found.
knoppix@Microknoppix:~$

utu, suggest jumping to phase IV:
4. show in the Debian-Knoppix computer code
where things need to be changed.
HTH
luther
PS. I'm not a linux programmer.

[Werner P. Schulz]

I would start here at #1 and eliminate the install to flash,

That's a good idea!

But please start a new thread, never again refer to this thread and omit all experiences with Mint.

In the meantime this thread is so confusing; therefore nobody seems to be able to help you at this point.

[utu]

@ Werner, most respectfully.

I agree with your observation & suggestion in Post #65,
however, I think luther's Mint experience was and is an essential clue
in this instance.

I hope we don't become so insular on this forum that we cannot
comment on relevant differences amongst the distributions, so long
as we don't allow this to excuse childish flaming exchanges.

My experience with the Mint LXDE forum leads me to believe that they feel
the same way as I do.

Best regards
-utu

[luther]

@ luther


Your demonstration of the b43 problem is fine.

Thanks Werner and utu for allowing me to cut-my-teeth in the OPEN Source
Linux Real-World.
Respectfully,
luther
PS. There are NO stupid questions, only answers.

[Werner P. Schulz]

.. however, I think luther's Mint experience was and is an essential clue
in this instance.

Yes, of course, and I didn't try to moderate the thread (except formatting two postings). But I think it is advantageous to look for a solution with the tools of Knoppix alone and the suggestions within this thread (consider the kernel version, examine for really needed module, blacklist etc). A new flash installation is a good starting point without disturbance by trial and error installations.

.. most respectfully ..

What's about this? Here we are not in a courtroom

[utu]

never again refer

This seemed a little over the top to me.
;D

[Werner P. Schulz]

But please start a new thread, never again refer to this thread and omit all experiences with Mint.

It was a request, not a order! New attempt, new results, new reports.

And now I think it's time to bury this thread.