<<<Then just cd to the directory you want your .oggs in (make a new folder perhaps) and do abcde It will not only rip the tracks from your cd it will convert them to .ogg's all without any intervention by you whatsoever. >>>>.

OK, big question from a dual/booting XP/Knoppix user.

In Nero, it will convert mp3s back to standard audio tracks when copying back to a CD.

Does abcde or grip do that?

sakiZ