You passed an undefined mode number???

[A. Jorge Garcia]

Just as I expected that there is just no fb device for Intel i8xx in KNOPPIX. Since it can detect i810 as the driver, the problem most likely is in XF86Config-4.

OK, Gary, I'll try what you said about modifying XF86Config-4 if Dave's cheat doesn't help. BTW, you do realize that I'm booting straight off the CD, right? Can I still modify XF86Config-4? Don't I need to hdinstall to do this? The machines I'm having trouble with are in my new lab at school where I'm booting CDs at present.

TIA,

[Dave_Bechtel]

--You can boot to ' knoppix 2 ' (plus other necessary cheatcodes), modify /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, then ' startx '.

Just as I expected that there is just no fb device for Intel i8xx in KNOPPIX. Since it can detect i810 as the driver, the problem most likely is in XF86Config-4.

OK, Gary, I'll try what you said about modifying XF86Config-4 if Dave's cheat doesn't help. BTW, you do realize that I'm booting straight off the CD, right? Can I still modify XF86Config-4? Don't I need to hdinstall to do this? The machines I'm having trouble with are in my new lab at school where I'm booting CDs at present.

TIA,

[A. Jorge Garcia]

OK, I tried

knoppix nosmp alsa vga=normal screen=1280x1024 xvrefresh=60

and got no errors, better res but no sound (adding xmodule=i810 didn't do anything, btw). So that's progress! Thanx everyone!! I tried the above cheat code sequence on V3.1-2003-01-01 and V3.2-2003-07-26 but it only helped in V3.2.

Now, I was looking at the driver info in M$ WINDOZE XP (sorry, I know that's painfull) for the video chip and apparently it can only do 800x600 or 1024x768 (at either 16bit or 32bit color depth). I got better res, but not by much. So I'm thinking it went from 800x600 (not what I originally thought: 640x480) to 1024x768. I'm a total noob here. How do I check the res while KNOPPIX is running? Also, can I use screen=1024x768 or is only screen=1280x1024 defined?

EDIT: screen=1024x768 worked the same as screen=1280x1024.

Oh, is alsa used for more than just sound? I'm wondering because, I don't know if its just my cable service acting up, but I couldn't access the web. For example: I can't access http://www.yahoo.com with Konqueror and I can't access ftp://users.aol.com with Konsole (both of which my students need alot!).

Confused,

[A. Jorge Garcia]

When using the alsa cheat, is there something else you have to do to get sound going? I read somewhere about using alsamixer. I tried it and got nowhere! So I'm omiting alsa from my cheat codes for now - unless you guys have any great ideas for the sound problem....

Also, it was nosmp that killed my web access, so now I use the same cheats as above except I omit nosmp.

So now I use the following cheats only:
boot: knoppix vga=normal screen=1024x768 xvrefresh=60

Now I can use loadlin based on these cheats to get a "poor man's dual boot" going in the new lab soon!

Oh, here's one strange side-effect I didn't expect. When using any of the various cheat combos I tried the last few days, I don't see the KDE splash screen on boot-up. Is that normal?

Thanx,

[Dave_Bechtel]

--Alsa is only used for sound, it shouldn't interfere with anything else. I have *no* Earthly idea why nosmp should b0rk your connection, that just doesn't make sense.

--Anyhow, no offense - but do you *really* need sound in a teaching lab?

When using the alsa cheat, is there something else you have to do to get sound going? I read somewhere about using alsamixer. I tried it and got nowhere! So I'm omiting alsa from my cheat codes for now - unless you guys have any great ideas for the sound problem....

Also, it was nosmp that killed my web access, so now I use the same cheats as above except I omit nosmp.

So now I use the following cheats only:
boot: knoppix vga=normal screen=1024x768 xvrefresh=60

Now I can use loadlin based on these cheats to get a "poor man's dual boot" going in the new lab soon!

Oh, here's one strange side-effect I didn't expect. When using any of the various cheat combos I tried the last few days, I don't see the KDE splash screen on boot-up. Is that normal?

Thanx,

[A. Jorge Garcia]

We can live without sound, but I thought it would be nice to do some multimedia labs, maybe some fractal music, etc. Anyway, its just annoying to me that KNOPPIX isn't up and running 100% on all my PCs....

Thanx,

[A. Jorge Garcia]

BTW, we also play instrumental music in the background of the class when coding. Every lab day, a different student gets to download their choice of *.ogg file. They usually opt for techno. When they've all had a turn, then I get a day of classical....

Regards,

[Dave_Bechtel]

--Sometimes people can be too reliant on high tech. You could always bring in a radio, and tell the students to start bringing CD's...

--Just trying to help.

BTW, we also play intrumental music in the background of the class when coding. Every lab day, a different students gets to download their choice of *.ogg file. They usually opt for techno. When they've all had a turn, then I get a day of classical....

Regards,

[A. Jorge Garcia]

I know you're "just trying to help", but you're not being very helpful....

Just kidding,

[Dave_Bechtel]

(shrug) They say a picture is worth a 1000 words...

Peace.

I know you're "just trying to help", but you're not being very helpful....

Just kidding,