Post Hdd install boot (lilo) question

[oscar]

p.s. Sorry if it sounds like a stupid question, my linux/mandrake/debian/knoppix knowledge is that vast, I could write it all on the back of a very small postage stamp

cut&paste your full lilo.conf
Do you know that after editing lilo.conf you must run
lilo -v ?

[bigjohn]

OK, this is my lilo.conf (I have it in the mandrake install - the person who helped me before said something about not having a lilo.conf in a debian/knoppix install as well as the one in mandrake due to possible conflicts).

boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
vga=normal
default="XP"
keytable=/boot/uk.klt
prompt
nowarn
timeout=100
message=/boot/message
menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label="Mandrake"
root=/dev/hda3
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append="quiet noapic devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=off"
vga=788
read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.22-xfs
label="Knoppix"
root=/dev/hda4
initrd=/boot/initrd.gz
append="hdc=ide-scsi acpi=off"
vga=normal
read-write
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label="linux-nonfb"
root=/dev/hda3
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append="noapic devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=off"
read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label="failsafe"
root=/dev/hda3
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append="failsafe noapic devfs=nomount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=off"
read-only
other=/dev/hda1
label="XP"
table=/dev/hda
other=/dev/fd0
label="floppy"
unsafe


Also, below is the output of "lilo -v" command

[root@localhost john]# lilo -v
LILO version 22.4.1, Copyright (C) 1992-1998 Werner Almesberger
Development beyond version 21 Copyright (C) 1999-2002 John Coffman
Released 27-Jan-2003 and compiled at 11:11:26 on Feb 5 2003.

Reading boot sector from /dev/hda
Using GRAPHIC secondary loader
Calling map_insert_data
Mapping message file /boot/message -> message-graphic
Calling map_insert_file

Boot image: /boot/vmlinuz -> vmlinuz-2.4.21-0.13mdk
Mapping RAM disk /boot/initrd.img -> initrd-2.4.21-0.13mdk.img
Added Mandrake

Boot image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.22-xfs
Mapping RAM disk /boot/initrd.gz
Added Knoppix

Boot image: /boot/vmlinuz -> vmlinuz-2.4.21-0.13mdk
Mapping RAM disk /boot/initrd.img -> initrd-2.4.21-0.13mdk.img
Added linux-nonfb

Boot image: /boot/vmlinuz -> vmlinuz-2.4.21-0.13mdk
Mapping RAM disk /boot/initrd.img -> initrd-2.4.21-0.13mdk.img
Added failsafe

Boot other: /dev/hda1, on /dev/hda, loader CHAIN
Added XP *

Boot other: /dev/fd0, loader CHAIN
Pseudo partition start: 0
Added floppy

/boot/boot.0300 exists - no backup copy made.
Writing boot sector.
[root@localhost john]#

I thought it might be pertinent to include the lilo -v stuff, though I don't really know how to interpret it.

Any suggestions much appreciated.

regards

John

[oscar]

try this
copy&paste to /etc/lilo.conf and the run lilo -v
(note that this must be image=/mnt/hda4/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.22-xfs and not image=/boot/vmilnuz-.....)


boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
vga=normal
default="XP"
keytable=/boot/uk.klt
prompt
nowarn
timeout=100
message=/boot/message
menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw

image=/boot/vmlinuz
label="Mandrake"
root=/dev/hda3
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append="quiet noapic devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=off"
vga=788
read-only

image=/mnt/hda4/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.22-xfs
label="Knoppix"
root=/dev/hda4
#initrd=/boot/initrd.gz
append="hdc=ide-scsi acpi=off"
vga=normal
read-only

image=/boot/vmlinuz
label="linux-nonfb"
root=/dev/hda3
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append="noapic devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=off"
read-only

image=/boot/vmlinuz
label="failsafe"
root=/dev/hda3
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append="failsafe noapic devfs=nomount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=off"
read-only

other=/dev/hda1
label="XP"
table=/dev/hda
other=/dev/fd0
label="floppy"
unsafe

[bigjohn]

Ok, the lilo.conf looks like this now

boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
vga=normal
default="XP"
keytable=/boot/uk.klt
prompt
nowarn
timeout=100
message=/boot/message
menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label="Mandrake"
root=/dev/hda3
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append="quiet noapic devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=off"
vga=788
read-only
image=/mnt/hda4/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.22-xfs
label="Knoppix"
root=/dev/hda4
#initrd=/boot/initrd.gz
append="noapic devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=off"
vga=normal
read-write
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label="linux-nonfb"
root=/dev/hda3
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append="noapic devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=off"
read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label="failsafe"
root=/dev/hda3
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append="failsafe noapic devfs=nomount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=off"
read-only
other=/dev/hda1
label="XP"
table=/dev/hda
other=/dev/fd0
label="floppy"
unsafe

But when I run lilo, I get this


[root@localhost john]# lilo -v
LILO version 22.4.1, Copyright (C) 1992-1998 Werner Almesberger
Development beyond version 21 Copyright (C) 1999-2002 John Coffman
Released 27-Jan-2003 and compiled at 11:11:26 on Feb 5 2003.

Reading boot sector from /dev/hda
Using GRAPHIC secondary loader
Calling map_insert_data
Mapping message file /boot/message -> message-graphic
Calling map_insert_file

Boot image: /boot/vmlinuz -> vmlinuz-2.4.21-0.13mdk
Mapping RAM disk /boot/initrd.img -> initrd-2.4.21-0.13mdk.img
Added Mandrake

Boot image: /mnt/hda4/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.22-xfs
Fatal: open /mnt/hda4/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.22-xfs: No such file or directory
[root@localhost john]#

That's the first time I've had a problem with lilo. I presume that that means that it can't see the boot image.

regards

John

[oscar]

Boot image: /mnt/hda4/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.22-xfs
Fatal: open /mnt/hda4/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.22-xfs: No such file or directory
[root@localhost john]#

is your knoppix partition /mnt/hda4 or is it anyelse?
is your knoppix partition mounted?

cut&paste here your /etc/fstab file

[bigjohn]

Oscar,

I managed to get something working, but it was wrong, because it would boot the knoppix but not the mandrake - I got a kernel panic when booting into mandrake.

so I have re-installed the mandrake and now I'm back to square one.

Which might be good - as it is starting fresh.

So here's the /etc/fstab

/dev/hda3 / ext3 defaults 1 1
/dev/hda4 /Knoppix ext3 defaults 1 2
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
none /mnt/cdrom supermount dev=/dev/hdb,fs=auto,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
none /mnt/cdrom2 supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-15,sync,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
/dev/hda1 /mnt/windows ntfs iocharset=iso8859-15,ro,umask=0 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hda2 swap swap defaults 0 0

And here's the lilo.conf as it stands at the moment.

boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
vga=normal
default="XP"
keytable=/boot/uk.klt
prompt
nowarn
timeout=100
message=/boot/message
menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label="Mandrake"
root=/dev/hda3
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append="quiet devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=off"
vga=788
read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label="knoppix"
root=/dev/hda4
initrd=/boot/initrd.gz
append="devfs=mount apm=power-off hdc=scsi initrd=initrd.gz"
vga=791
read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label="linux-nonfb"
root=/dev/hda3
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append="devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=off"
read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label="failsafe"
root=/dev/hda3
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append="failsafe devfs=nomount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=off"
read-only
other=/dev/hda1
label="XP"
table=/dev/hda

other=/dev/fd0
label="floppy"
unsafe

As I'm not entirely sure how it actually all works, is it that the lilo.conf can't see either the knoppix version of vmlinuz... or the initrd.gz ? So does it need a copy of both on /dev/hda4 ? because it can see them on the floppy, but doesn't seem to see them on the hard disc - Or have I "got the wrong end of the stick?"

regards

John

[oscar]

change this in lilo.conf

image=/boot/vmlinuz
label="knoppix"
root=/dev/hda4
initrd=/boot/initrd.gz
append="devfs=mount apm=power-off hdc=scsi initrd=initrd.gz"
vga=791
read-only

to this

image=/Knoppix/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.22-xfs
label="knoppix"
root=/dev/hda4
#initrd=/Knoppix/boot/initrd.gz
append="devfs=mount apm=power-off hdc=scsi "
vga=791
read-only


then run

mount -rw /dev/hda4 /Knoppix (in order to mount yor knoppix partition)


then goto to /Knoppix/boot to confirm that vmlinuz-2.4.22-xfs is there

now you may run lilo -v

[oscar]

an alternative is to boot into knoppix with the diskette
and copy the following to /etc/lilo.conf

boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
vga=normal
default="Windows"
#keytable=/boot/uk.klt
prompt
nowarn
timeout=200
message=/boot/message
#menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw


image=/mnt/hda3/boot/vmlinuz
label="Mke-hda3"
root=/dev/hda3
#initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append="quiet devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=off"
vga=788
read-only

image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.22-xfs
label="knpx-hda4"
root=/dev/hda4
initrd=/boot/initrd.gz
append="devfs=mount apm=power-off hdc=scsi initrd=initrd.gz"
vga=791
read-only

other=/dev/hda1
label="Windows"
#table=/dev/hda


then run
kdf
right clik over /dev/hda3 (mandrake)
mount /dev/hd3 mandrake (if it is not mounted yet)

then run lilo -v

[bigjohn]

Yippeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Many many thanks for your extended assistance Oscar (and all the others who have posted ideas and suggestions)

I tried the first of the solutions and it seems to have worked a treat. I just wish that the publishers of the "dummies" series,produced an "Almanack" of IT terminology - then I might also be in a position to offer such excellent assistance (but I suppose thats the price I have to pay, not working in IT - and lets face it, truck drivers are well known for our "incredible interlectual abilities" )

again, many thanks

regards

John